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Backwoodsboy · 02-17-2011, 09:41 AM

should i contact one of the provided links or can anyone direct me to a place for lips for ssr formula mesh, its 20 bolt and reverse mount lip, 17 in...ive looked but had a hard time locating anything

GabeS14 · 02-17-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

i dunno about you
but racing is not as harsh as normal street drivin
street driving typically involves massive potholes and can often involve neglect, to the point where people drive shit with little or no air in their tires.
when something is welded, its the seam around the weld that is brittle and can break.

I know what you mean, but 37 years of doing it, he says never had an issue, it's when you go to a shitty welder that you run into issues. if it's a proven company then it should be trustworthy.
If the weld is good, it should actually make the wheel stronger at the point of the weld.
Similar to your bones, when you break a bone, the body fills the crack in with more bone, and it makes the bone stronger.

atutt · 02-17-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

this guy is a wonderful welder

Hardly....

i agree sam. if you're going this route, you had better set aside some money to have them xray'ed as an integrity check, possibly send them out for re-forging? i wouldnt feel comfortable just riding on welded wheels

It would be more costly to have a CWI x-ray the welds....

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

i dunno about you

but racing is not as harsh as normal street driving

street driving typically involves massive potholes and can often involve neglect, to the point where people drive shit with little or no air in their tires.

when something is welded, its the seam around the weld that is brittle and can break.

i am not saying the work isnt good or that its not reliable. i am simply saying, what cost to this risk? personally, i'de prefer getting the proper wheel from the get-go and calling it a day. but hey, to each his own. its cool stuff though. but 140mph with a set of welded wheels? dunno about that

It only becomes brittle if it was welded incorrectly. Or if it required post heat treatment and didn't receive any.

Why would you be doing 140mph on the street?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabeS14

I know what you mean, but 37 years of doing it, he says never had an issue, it's when you go to a shitty welder that you run into issues. if it's a proven company then it should be trustworthy.
If the weld is good, it should actually make the wheel stronger at the point of the weld.
Similar to your bones, when you break a bone, the body fills the crack in with more bone, and it makes the bone stronger.

This is true. But only when it's welded correctly with the correct prep, technique and any post welding treatment (If required).

Don Nguyen · 04-13-2011, 12:09 PM

Called Eric Vaughn to see if he could do work on some TE37s, and he said he won't touch mag wheels, due to the materials.

He actually said repairing bends in mag wheels would be very hard as well.

atutt · 04-13-2011, 07:37 PM

TE37's are made of magnesium???

chiboy002 · 04-13-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by atutt

TE37's are made of magnesium???

one hell of a fire when you hit a curb and spark it

ayuaddict · 04-14-2011, 02:57 AM

I believe they had a short run of a "Forged MAG" version. The name sounds like they could have been made of Magnesium, not to mention the price (MSRP $1700 for 18x9.5s) and the weight (14lbs for the same size).

Otto347 · 04-14-2011, 06:39 AM

I thought the forged mags were that dark blue color? Also they were knock offs and not lug nut wheels?

fightinchunk · 04-14-2011, 10:28 AM

i bet if you looked on the supra forums you'll find a gold mine. they love widening stock supra wheels... and for good reason: they sessy as hell

silviaguy240 · 04-14-2011, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

TE37's are made of magnesium???

what old guys refer to spoked wheels as. my buddys dad still calls newer wheels mags. but im sure because they're forged its a pain in the balls to do.

sr20sean · 04-14-2011, 10:46 AM

hmmm... anyone want to fill their tires with nitrogen and go drift their 240 with magnesium te-37s into a curb?

fightinchunk · 04-14-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sr20sean

hmmm... anyone want to fill their tires with nitrogen and go drift their 240 with magnesium te-37s into a curb?

lol show up at the pearly gates ass backwards on fire... st peter's like wtf were you thinking

CamryOnBronze · 04-14-2011, 11:34 AM

I had no idea that Weldcraft was so well known. I had them repair some rash on my CR Kais when I first bought them- $80 total to completely redo and smooth the lips for two wheels- they did some really nice work!

wh0aitznic0 · 04-14-2011, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fightinchunk

i bet if you looked on the supra forums you'll find a gold mine. they love widening stock supra wheels... and for good reason: they sessy as hell

Supra wheels are ugly as fuck. :|

Sugoi_Style · 04-14-2011, 02:06 PM

Yeah, it seems that Japanese manufacturers were skimpin' on the wheel designs back in the early 90's. Perhaps too much spent on R&D making a decent car, unlike the American fare over here in the states...

Pure_JDM · 04-14-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sr20sean

hmmm... anyone want to fill their tires with nitrogen and go drift their 240 with magnesium te-37s into a curb?

Since when is Nitrogen in tires flammable or any more reactive than "air"?

And if you're referring to Magnesium Nitride, go take a Chemistry class, and learn that driving into a curb will not cause this chemical reaction.

Drifting-pedobear · 04-14-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pure_jdm

since when is nitrogen in tires flammable or any more reactive than "air"?

And if you're referring to magnesium nitride, go take a chemistry class, and learn that driving into a curb will not cause this chemical reaction.

what is scarcasm?!

Mister.E · 04-14-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Drifting-pedobear

scarcasm?!

according to urban dictionary:

Scarcasm, n. clever but very unkind comments that leave a scar on the recipient. A stronger form of sarcasm that is directed towards someone who is especially sensitive and is permanently "scarred" by the cutting remark.

towlie · 04-14-2011, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silviaguy240

what old guys refer to spoked wheels as. my buddys dad still calls newer wheels mags. but im sure because they're forged its a pain in the balls to do.

I've heard guys who are into the "mini truck" scene also defer to general chrome wheels as "mag"

SidewaysTaco · 04-14-2011, 08:22 PM

has anyone ever widened xxrs?

95KA-Turbo · 04-14-2011, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SidewaysTaco

has anyone ever widened xxrs?

You can't...its like buying ebay intercooler piping and trying to TIG it.

titangts · 04-14-2011, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SidewaysTaco

has anyone ever widened xxrs?

lol

it wouldnt be worth the money man..cuz by the time your done. you could have bought some 18x10's or whatever ( depends on brand of course )..and shit now xxr has 18x10.5's left and right.

SidewaysTaco · 04-14-2011, 10:18 PM

i have the 16x8s 002, i want to make the rears x9.5 or 10.

towlie · 04-15-2011, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SidewaysTaco

i have the 16x8s 002, i want to make the rears x9.5 or 10.

Might aswell buy steelies -_-

ayuaddict · 04-15-2011, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

You can't...its like buying ebay intercooler piping and trying to TIG it.

I've actually done that lol, mind you i wasn't the one who purchased it, but yeah it sucked.

And as i stated before: Volk did make magnesium TE37s.

kalypso123 · 05-14-2011, 03:45 PM

I'd like to create a wheel widening workshop in the future, I can already imagine the lathe and tools needed to successfully do it.

atutt · 05-14-2011, 05:40 PM

Do you actually know what you need to look for in a lathe to do this?

I'm not a machinist but what I have gathered is that you can usually only cut something that's as big as your chuck.
IE 17'' chuck... Will most likely only cut up to 17''....

One of our lathes at work has a 19'' chuck... And it can only hold up to a 19'' rim.
Big chucks are BIG money and weigh a fuck ton...

I think you really need to know your lathes for an endeavor like this... Or you could end up with a lathe that's limited and cost a shit load...

MidwestMyriad · 05-14-2011, 05:47 PM

Hmm, I would try to fab up some kind of chuck with an old hub or something, that way instead of clamping the outer lip of the wheel (which WOULD require a 17" or bigger chuck), you could bolt the wheel to the chuck as if you were installing it on your car, not sure if it'd work, but in theory why not?

atutt · 05-14-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MidwestMyriad

Hmm, I would try to fab up some kind of chuck with an old hub or something, that way instead of clamping the outer lip of the wheel (which WOULD require a 17" or bigger chuck), you could bolt the wheel to the chuck as if you were installing it on your car, not sure if it'd work, but in theory why not?

Generally the distance from the center of the chuck to the bed won't allow it...
Hence why you need a big fuckin chuck.
If the lathe can only handle, say, a 12'' chuck. The lathe will be built to a chuck that size (including the arms stick out). They won't build it so it can later accept a 20'' chuck...

kalypso123 · 05-14-2011, 09:17 PM

I thought about hooking up an old hub, and I envisioned a radial saw ( w/ a thin metal cutting blade ) on a pivoting arm that would lean towards the barrel and slice it. the assembly would have to be welded and squared to perfection to make sure it was true, but I like the idea of building something that will work.

04-14-2011, 10:28 AM	#99
fightinchunk Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Millburn NJ Age: 34 Posts: 118 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i bet if you looked on the supra forums you'll find a gold mine. they love widening stock supra wheels... and for good reason: they sessy as hell __________________

04-14-2011, 11:34 AM	#103
CamryOnBronze Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MI Age: 35 Posts: 3,913 Trader Rating: (131) Rides Gallery: CamryOnBronze Feedback Score: 131 reviews	I had no idea that Weldcraft was so well known. I had them repair some rash on my CR Kais when I first bought them- $80 total to completely redo and smooth the lips for two wheels- they did some really nice work! __________________ CamryOnBronze.com

04-14-2011, 02:06 PM	#105
Sugoi_Style Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Okinawa, Japan Age: 38 Posts: 559 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Yeah, it seems that Japanese manufacturers were skimpin' on the wheel designs back in the early 90's. Perhaps too much spent on R&D making a decent car, unlike the American fare over here in the states... __________________

04-14-2011, 08:22 PM	#110
SidewaysTaco Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fair lawn,NJ. Age: 32 Posts: 782 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	has anyone ever widened xxrs? __________________ 89' Nissan Cefiro INSTAGRAM

04-14-2011, 10:18 PM	#113
SidewaysTaco Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fair lawn,NJ. Age: 32 Posts: 782 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i have the 16x8s 002, i want to make the rears x9.5 or 10. __________________ 89' Nissan Cefiro INSTAGRAM

02-17-2011, 09:41 AM	#91
Backwoodsboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Age: 29 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	should i contact one of the provided links or can anyone direct me to a place for lips for ssr formula mesh, its 20 bolt and reverse mount lip, 17 in...ive looked but had a hard time locating anything

04-13-2011, 12:09 PM	#94
Don Nguyen Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 231 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Called Eric Vaughn to see if he could do work on some TE37s, and he said he won't touch mag wheels, due to the materials. He actually said repairing bends in mag wheels would be very hard as well.

04-13-2011, 07:37 PM	#95
atutt Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: barrie, ontario, canada Age: 35 Posts: 997 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	TE37's are made of magnesium???

04-14-2011, 02:57 AM	#97
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 32 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I believe they had a short run of a "Forged MAG" version. The name sounds like they could have been made of Magnesium, not to mention the price (MSRP $1700 for 18x9.5s) and the weight (14lbs for the same size).

04-14-2011, 10:46 AM	#101
sr20sean Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: lagrangeville, ny Posts: 2,118 Trader Rating: (25) Feedback Score: 25 reviews	hmmm... anyone want to fill their tires with nitrogen and go drift their 240 with magnesium te-37s into a curb?

05-14-2011, 03:45 PM	#116
kalypso123 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,853 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I'd like to create a wheel widening workshop in the future, I can already imagine the lathe and tools needed to successfully do it.

05-14-2011, 05:40 PM	#117
atutt Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: barrie, ontario, canada Age: 35 Posts: 997 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do you actually know what you need to look for in a lathe to do this? I'm not a machinist but what I have gathered is that you can usually only cut something that's as big as your chuck. IE 17'' chuck... Will most likely only cut up to 17''.... One of our lathes at work has a 19'' chuck... And it can only hold up to a 19'' rim. Big chucks are BIG money and weigh a fuck ton... I think you really need to know your lathes for an endeavor like this... Or you could end up with a lathe that's limited and cost a shit load...

05-14-2011, 05:47 PM	#118
MidwestMyriad Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Traveling through time and space... Posts: 1,387 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Hmm, I would try to fab up some kind of chuck with an old hub or something, that way instead of clamping the outer lip of the wheel (which WOULD require a 17" or bigger chuck), you could bolt the wheel to the chuck as if you were installing it on your car, not sure if it'd work, but in theory why not? __________________ @MMyriad

05-14-2011, 09:17 PM	#120
kalypso123 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,853 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I thought about hooking up an old hub, and I envisioned a radial saw ( w/ a thin metal cutting blade ) on a pivoting arm that would lean towards the barrel and slice it. the assembly would have to be welded and squared to perfection to make sure it was true, but I like the idea of building something that will work.

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