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Old 05-03-2011, 03:25 PM   #271
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Where do u live, china? Minimum wage is 8$/hr broseff
WOAH WOAH WOAH
national min is 7.50!
mcdonalds has health benefits too if you stay a year.



you know what though, I was making 2-3 times as much as i do now before the military. +i had health insurance and everything.

I joined because i wanted to do something with my life i could be proud of.
I almost dropped out of high school, i dropped out of college once (back in now)
I had gotten lucky with a good paying job, but i wasnt happy, I hadnt done anything in my life that i could say i did with pride.
thats the reason i joined, not to listen to country songs, not to follow blindlessly.
I am sorry you signed up to pay bills and got suckered into something you arnt ready for.
but i stand by my earlier statement.
You shouldn't have signed up if your wernt ready for it.
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Incorrect each state can set its on minimum wage based off of cost of living which a lot of states do but there is also a federal minimum wage and that is only at 4 dollars or close to it. So some places aren't as lucky and people that work there can barely make a living. I feal it as a good thing we got him but a lot of you guys seem to be just blindly following what the media tells you instead of thinking of the very likely possibility that the govt. Lies to you on a day to day basis, and I could really hope that he is dead doesn't matter to much to me if he died this week or five years ago, he has only been a reason for our govt to go into other countries and get our money, the country in whole has a lot more to worry about than that bastard or other countries wars we need to look at home for a change.

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Correction I got state and federal minimums mixed up its the other way around because not all states have to follow the federal

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U.S. Department of Labor - Find It By Topic - Wages - Minimum Wage

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Many states also have minimum wage laws. In cases where an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages.
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Old 05-03-2011, 03:38 PM   #276
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national min is 7.50!
U don't say? Hah my bad didn't know that.
8 here in cali. But everything else is hella expensive to make up for it
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I was even wrong, its 7.25 actually.
few states stick to the min though.
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yep. i remember back before i could buy a pack, smokes were $2 a pack.
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Essentially, federal has a certain amount... the state can mandate a higher amount than the federal.


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Old 05-03-2011, 04:28 PM   #280
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This post, comes off as idiotic at best. Your other posts afterwards, are much better and have slightly changed my feelings about you.

My retort however, is going to be...

If you didn't like the heat, perhaps you should take the time to gather your thoughts prior to opening your big trap.

You can not, in good faith, come out and admit that you had served the military due to your own selfish needs... go and serve the terms over in a foreign country unwillingly (from what you have typed about not being patriotic and not liking the government or agreeing with the war, I'm assuming you were assigned duty in the middle east unwillingly)... and then command the same respect as the people who actually fought for their country willingly. You didn't choose to make a sacrifice from the sounds of it. You had that decision made for you... because you were baited into the service with dreams of health care and a steady paycheck. You then justify your unwillingness by claiming that you are being unique by thinking for yourself.


If anything, your personal vendetta to get your message out about the 'truths' of the government is not original... at all. The Happy movement originated that attitude long before you and I were even a shine in our parents eyes. It's one thing to question the future of our nation and government... but its another thing to spout off conspiracy theories about leaving a known terrorist alive to fuel a war... and then demand respect from the people who actually signed up for the job.

If you served in the middle east, then I tip my hat at you. I won't however, hold you in the same regard as those who actually stepped up to the job without kicking and crying the entire way.
I will applaud your since of "manor's" and not coming off as an asshole(completly... a subtle one is still the same).

You have to except and understand that people don't have to have the same mindset as the GP. I for one like to think that I have my own beliefs and somewhat original thoughts.

I joined knowing that I could be deployed at the drop of a hat. I was not forced to go and I understood that prior and after wards. My original contract is up, I chose to stay. But not for someone Else's war.

Now to say that the military does not creatively tell the truth(especially retention) or hand out pipe dreams... Than you are blind... I was not told that I would deploy for 24+ months in 3 years and be on my 3rd deployment before I hit 5years of service. I was not told about alot of things about the army and how it works. Career progression mainly... But I am not bitter about that. I am bitter about the relationship it ruined, and lack of time I get to see my family especially my daughter. Not to mention the current one that is being tested by my lack of time I get at home. But this is not about a personal grudge or feel of mistreatment.

To show you how the gov. hides things.
We were at a live fire exercise and started a rather "large" wild fire. So bad that the state Governor got involved. The news later said it was due to a lightning strike. There was no damn lightning involved. They just did not want any bad press for the military.

Now I do not try to convince others of my beliefs or theories. It is for their selves to figure out what they wish to believe. But to not question what we are told or led to believe is idiotic.
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A fool I would be if I ate every thing up.

I know there are plenty of cover ups. This however, would be a particularly large one. Historically large, and un-realistic at that. I couldnt read your original account and straight faced accept that as the way it is... simply because the amount of secrecy and work involved in a lie that massive would be rediculous.

Like I said, you were baited into the military. I understand that. I know the military's recruiting tactics... and I know the gold brick road they will pretend to lay out in front of you to get you to join. I'm not blind to that. What I couldn't agree with is what came off as your command for respect citing circumstances that were not (until your last post) even hinted as being your decision.
Actually, had your original post been along the lines of your most recent post... no body would have probably even entered in this dick swinging contest in the first place. No matter how big (or small?) they are.
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I intended to argue a bit...

Everyone was so against Obama until a few days ago. Now they simply praise him blindly.

Shit is not right, thats all. This is just like kicking a wasp nest.


But hey, its time to hop on the bandwagon...


and just because it seems unlikely that our gov. would lie on such a large scale, does not mean it did not happen.
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IDK if it'll help him get re-elected.

It's a good thing, no question, but I don't think it'll be enough if the economy isn't recovering quick enough.
What would help is if he pulls out of Afghanistan & all wars by the end of the year (doubt it will happen).
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If you wanted to work "flipping" burgers. McDonald's offers you $3.00 per hr or the Military offers 50k a year plus health and benefits and 20k signing bonus.... hmmm, let me think....
50k a year? 20k signing bonus? I think I need to talk to General Amos COTMC cuz my checks have been short by a good bit and I didn't get my bonus. Military pay sucks balls unless ur commissioned as a officer or been in 12+ yrs. Alot of young people join for education benefits or it's an easy way to escape hard times(initially). Alot of others including myself join cuz we wanted to do our part. Only a desperate person or a clown would join for money cuz it's not there.

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I intended to argue a bit...

Everyone was so against Obama until a few days ago. Now they simply praise him blindly.

Shit is not right, thats all. This is just like kicking a wasp nest.


But hey, its time to hop on the bandwagon...


and just because it seems unlikely that our gov. would lie on such a large scale, does not mean it did not happen.
Cuz that nest wasn't kick on sep 11 2001?
Everyone is not following him blindly. If you need proof read through this thread.
The pres has people around him paid to improve the pres' image and wen I watched his speech, I saw them at work wen they wrote that speech.
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50k a year? 20k signing bonus? I think I need to talk to General Amos COTMC cuz my checks have been short by a good bit and I didn't get my bonus. Military pay sucks balls unless ur commissioned as a officer or been in 12+ yrs. Alot of young people join for education benefits or it's an easy way to escape hard times(initially). Alot of others including myself join cuz we wanted to do our part. Only a desperate person or a clown would join for money cuz it's not there.



Cuz that nest wasn't kick on sep 11 2001?
Everyone is not following him blindly. If you need proof read through this thread.
The pres has people around him paid to improve the pres' image and wen I watched his speech, I saw them at work wen they wrote that speech.
slight exaggeration, but that is what I make/clear in a year and that was my bonus.

As for proof... yeah and the bible is fact.
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I never claimed to be a bible thumper.

As a matter of fact, I despise organized religion. I think you can have whatever beliefs you want, but associating with others in an organized religion can be dangerous. Especially since almost every (major) religion has their own clause in order to try to "convert" others.

That is like handing knives to a bunch of blind kids and letting them stumble around in a ring.

Also, if you read above.. I don't personally praise Obama. Obama certainly gave the OK to get him... but you can't really tell me that Bush would not have also given the OK to kill that guy. Signing your name on an authorization form hardly constitutes the entire thing being your work.

That being said... team 6 (which I confirmed through my own sources thankyouverymuch) did very well.
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Does anyone thing that something big may happen on may21st where some people speculate the world will end. I just tought of this but i dont believe it
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Does anyone thing that something big may happen on may21st where some people speculate the world will end. I just tought of this but i dont believe it
i mean thats def something to think about lol. i don't buy into that conspiracy/apocalypse stuff...but that would be ironic.
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Yea i dont believe in that shit fuck it i may die right now if god wants to, but its kind of crazy i just tought of it out of nowhere with all the threats of taliban plannnig something to get revenge on us. just an oh shit moment for me lol. i feel this may spread around lol

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That's next year, and what doesn that have to do with this thread at all?
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That's next year, and what doesn that have to do with this thread at all?
oh no its this yr May 21, 2011 - Judgment Day!; October 21, 2011 - The End of the World next year is 2011 that will occur on december 21.

I just find it funny since we here that the taliban may plan something to get revenge on us for killing osama

What does half the posts in the thread have anything to do with the thread at all?
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50k a year? 20k signing bonus? I think I need to talk to General Amos COTMC cuz my checks have been short by a good bit and I didn't get my bonus. Military pay sucks balls unless ur commissioned as a officer or been in 12+ yrs. Alot of young people join for education benefits or it's an easy way to escape hard times(initially). Alot of others including myself join cuz we wanted to do our part. Only a desperate person or a clown would join for money cuz it's not there.


I had a 15k signing bonus and I was making about 4k a month after taxes for this recent activation. I was an E5 with 5 years too...
They also had some guys making per diem ($50 bucks a day) and IIRC per diem in Gemany was even higher ($115 a day I think).
I am now considered a veteran in my state so I don't have to pay tuition.
On top of that I have an associates degree through the CCAF which is transferable to alot of colleges. Oh and I qualify for the Post 9/11 GI bill now.
I'm just another mechanic in the USAFR.
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What's the difference between the Aztec's Dec. 21 2012, and that prediction?

I was concieved around May 21st 1988, the beginning of the age of tribulation according to that paper.
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Does that make you a candidate for being the anti-christ?
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can we please knock the religious bs please? lets get back on topic.
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I say we should all put together and hire a bunch of midgets to dress up and sing "Ding dong, Bin Ladens dead" while doing the lolly pop guild dance. Put that on youtube, and recieve money from advertising.


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I say we should all put together and hire a bunch of midgets to dress up and sing "Ding dong, Bin Ladens dead" while doing the lolly pop guild dance. Put that on youtube, and recieve money from advertising.


This will fund our car parts.
Funny u say that. My mom was actually walking arnd the house singing that wen it came on the news lol
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Midgets I tell you. We need them

I feel for that girl in the clear brook high situation. Thats some messed up stuff to hear. Some people just don't think before they speak. At all.
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