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Old 02-03-2004, 12:56 PM   #121
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That all depends. If they have given you notice that you must be a member in order to participate, they are only intitled to give you a refund if you request it prior to the event. If you request the refund at the time of the event they are not required to refund anything to you.

Because of this Thread even existing this is documented proof that everyone who signed up is aware of the fact that the event is for registered members. This thread becomes legal.
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OK guys I got to the bottom of this for all of us... there is effectively only 27 drivers reg'd for the event.

There will be a skidpad and coned course... the coned course is not defined yet, but will be laid out on Friday... I may go out there and help

Non-NASA members will not be required to pay the fee... BUT they will be having a number of events including drift at THill in 2 weeks where the whole track is utilized this time.

So we only got to pay $10 at the door and pass tech and we're cool...

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Since you did not know when you signed up, your are legally required to notify them immediately and request a refund before the event takes place.
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Thanks for the heads up Jerry!

Had this big response written but its been covered. Looks like its only $49 + $10 entrance fee.

A skidpad isn't too exciting, niether is a cone course... but since I have no seat time/experience this will be fun for us newbies (aka me).

Though I assume if we want to particpate in future events (THill in a few weeks), we'll have to have proof of NASA membership then. I'm glad they realized THEIR mistake in signups and make it more clear for their THill event. (I'd hate to see everyone linking to this thread about how they didn't ask for membership or something)

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That all depends. If they have given you notice that you must be a member in order to participate, they are only intitled to give you a refund if you request it prior to the event. If you request the refund at the time of the event they are not required to refund anything to you.

Because of this Thread even existing this is documented proof that everyone who signed up is aware of the fact that the event is for registered members. This thread becomes legal.
The thread becomes legal... YES... BUT the fact is that they were not in sync with their own policy and the details were not mentioned. The registration is an acting contract and should be upheld by both parties... whatever who cares...

We got an all out drift thing for $49 and if we're not satisfied with only Saturday... Jerry says that we can spill over to Sunday if needed!!!
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So just let us now after the event how it ends up.
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whew, glad that was cleared up.
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Old 02-03-2004, 01:58 PM   #128
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Im rolling out on sat morning, so if anybody else from the easy bay or wherever want to caravan, let me know !

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Cool. Finally cleared up. I will be going for sure then. Just need some rear brake pads...I think I will be okay on the front...?
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Good stuff Jay, glad you could get through to them.
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I'm just saying hopefully it works out for you guys. I'm not gonna go, not worth it. I'm not gonna pay $95 dollars. I hope I'm wrong, but that legal argument won't pursuade me. I'm a paralegal so I know the legality of it.

I'm just hoping that the guys you're dealing with are kewl and don't decide to skrew you all over.

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OK guys I got to the bottom of this for all of us... there is effectively only 27 drivers reg'd for the event.

There will be a skidpad and coned course... the coned course is not defined yet, but will be laid out on Friday... I may go out there and help

Non-NASA members will not be required to pay the fee... BUT they will be having a number of events including drift at THill in 2 weeks where the whole track is utilized this time.

So we only got to pay $10 at the door and pass tech and we're cool...

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knghtryde, just to let you know its been covered. We're not getting screwed over!
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Old 02-03-2004, 03:41 PM   #133
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Wow nice, i had to dig deep in my empty pockets if i had to pay an extra 35 for membership....

I know i sound like a broken record.. but i really need to borrow helmet =(
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Kewl... I didn't see that post... So then I'm glad everything is worked out...
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Old 02-03-2004, 04:04 PM   #135
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I'm just saying hopefully it works out for you guys. I'm not gonna go, not worth it. I'm not gonna pay $95 dollars.
its still worth it..compare to the other events..
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I might have to cancel on going... if i cant find a helmet before saturday


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I might have to cancel on going... if i cant find a helmet before saturday
M85 is a pretty low standard, have you checked any motorcycle stores for a cheapie helmet? I've seen some sell open face helmets for < $50. Maybe you could even find one that will rent a helmet?
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Like this:

http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...m=BEL_107031_G

I *bet* that's better than M85... My motorcycle helmet is from 6 years ago and it's better than M85.

Or even this one for $40:

http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...=VAN_02-2322_G

Just need sunglasses with that one I think because of the eye protection req.
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HRM... theres a cycle gear shop thats pretty close to me, ill go check it out see if i can buy it for 50 at the store.. thanks!
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The thread becomes legal... YES... BUT the fact is that they were not in sync with their own policy and the details were not mentioned. The registration is an acting contract and should be upheld by both parties... whatever who cares...

We got an all out drift thing for $49 and if we're not satisfied with only Saturday... Jerry says that we can spill over to Sunday if needed!!!

I got work on Saturday. but i'd like to come on Sunday. Do you think they will accept new entries if it "spills over?" who's Jerry?
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The spill to Sunday is for those that don't get time if more than 50 people register. Jerry K is the Norcal NASA guy. He said there's only about 30 or so people reg'd so far... since this event is their first... they might allow you to go on sunday *IF* Sunday even happens. I guess we just have to convince them that we didn't get enough practice

You can never get enough drift practice when you won't hit curbs or chance getting tickets IMO!!!
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Old 02-04-2004, 04:21 PM   #142
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here is the newest update as of 2-4-03:

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The drifting will start at 9am. There is very limited space, however at this time there are still some slots open. A previous email sent about this stated that membership is required. It is in fact required, however because our system was faulty it allowed people to sign up without membership this time, we will accept them without membership. We plan on doing a number of these all year long. The next one will require membership.
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Lets see if we can convince them to let us run on sunday too!!!
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Lets see if we can convince them to let us run on sunday too!!!
Maybe if enough of us bring 2-4 spares that will give them a hint
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I was wondering why this thread was so freaking long, and now I know. Hella sucks to have to sign up for membership...I wonder what the heck they were thinking...How many NASA members are really into drifting to support a full event lol...
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lets pray for rain for those of us that can afford LSD like me!!! Oh rain god, make it rain on saturday!!! Plus cant afford new tires! hehehe....
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HAHA im gonna bring 2 stockies, but i hope it rains... im too lazy to change to my old wheels =D
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HRM... theres a cycle gear shop thats pretty close to me, ill go check it out see if i can buy it for 50 at the store.. thanks!
Call me up and i'll let you barrow my old ugly motorcycle helmet, dont waste your money. The only thing is that you would have to pick it up at my house on friday in elk grove/sac. PM me and i'll give you my number.
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i have a new style. i call it grip drifting. its drifting with one tire. can't wait to try it out
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