Product Review: Drift Freaq's Engine Mouts - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

*slider2828* · 04-20-2010, 10:33 PM

Buy his engine mounts.... I had POS new Nismo engine mounts all around with Nismo tranny mounts. Had steering tremors, felt vibrations like crazy, just felt really stiff all around AND there is DEFINITELY a 1" height difference between the Nismo's and DF's Mounts... My greddy FSTB had heavy dents from my engine torque cause it wouldn't clear with spacers already on there!....

You can already see the difference in height that is about 1/2" difference

Here you can see it installed on the turbo side...

The stupid nismo ones had a little tabe to keep it from spinning which in my theory thinks the engine couldnt' sit flush with the mounts

Driving impressions immediately are quieter more comfortable ride, less steering tremors all around, quieter on launch.... I am pretty sure the mounts will settle a little more over time, but these are unbelieveable!

Run down:

#1: Better than Nismo's in comfort meaning less vibration
#2: Easier install cause you can twist these any way you want to have it sit more flush tan nismos... 1 screw is in the middle of the mount which is up side and offset screw is down.
#3 The engine sits 1" lower than Nismo's
#4 WAAYYYY cheaper than Nismo's...

I am currently am using the nismo tranny mount with these engine mounts and its a good combo...

To install on SR:

Remove Clutch Fan.

Loosening Engine Mounts from the bottom. You can get to all 4 nuts from the bottom.

Remove Front Strut Tower Bar.

Put a piece of wood the size of your oil pan and lift the engine with a jack.

Screw in the middle of DF's mount go into engine side, and offset screw side goes to the frame side.

(MOST IMPORTANT) Use anti-seize on bolts.. These seize really easily with heat from engine.

Put in engine mounts and rotate mounts till they sit flush.

Bolt everything back in and go for a drive!

Good Stuff Drift Freaq!

My Car Specs: Motoria Arms all around, Megan Tracks, Solid Diff Mounts, Solid Subframe Mounts, SPL Inner and Outer Tie Rods....

370WHP at 330FT/LB of Torque.....

Z33dori · 04-20-2010, 10:42 PM

i like all of it except for the sitting lower part!..... but i do have a skid plate

*slider2828* · 04-20-2010, 11:09 PM

Lower means what is perceived stock.... By no means it sits lower than the lower stabilizer bar.... I think it sits normal actually.... The nismo sits very high.....

*!Zar!* · 04-21-2010, 03:31 AM

I remember people saying something about some nismo motor mounts for the CA18 being different heights than SR ones or whatever. But As for the height difference, is there a difference once it is installed? Because I'd imagine the Nismo/OEM ones would 'squish' more so than the Drift Freaq mounts and that the install height might be near the same.

Mister.E · 04-21-2010, 05:14 AM

are the Nismo's really that bad? i have never heard anything but positive feedback from people using them.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 04-21-2010, 06:10 AM

Nismo's are fine, for the first year or so. After that, they feel just like stock. Well, not old blown stock but stock new.

Jakob · 04-21-2010, 07:01 AM

i have these mounts, car feels great and no rattles at all (except the stuff that is actually loose and shouldn't be lol ). might pick up another set because my buddy wants them too!

sirfallsalot243 · 04-21-2010, 07:06 AM

I'll be interested to see how they last. Make sure to update this when you get some miles on em.

*slider2828* · 04-21-2010, 10:17 AM

I have had about 15k miles on the nismo's they never squished at all, which I was hoping... Engine remained same height as when I first put them on. The mounts even look new after 15k miles on them no sagging.... But the engine was just too high... I think most people don't notice because they are still using a two piece shaft.....

I use a 1 piece steal and solid bushings / poly bushings everywhere with stiff coils. You can easily tell the difference in mounts.

100% sure they have a height difference.... nismo's don't squish at least not mine...

secondtonone317 · 04-21-2010, 10:55 AM

damm, nice.......man I jumped to nismos after a bad experience with aolid mounts, if I get tired of nismos I will try these, I like that they take up less room

drift freaq · 04-21-2010, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirfallsalot243

I'll be interested to see how they last. Make sure to update this when you get some miles on em.

They actually last quite well Racepar1 ran them on his car before he stripped it down to stitch weld for almost 2 years.

As with anything mileage may vary depending on how much you abuse your car. These were originally designed for track cars not street cars. They have seen lots of mileage on the track. If you do not put a heat shield on them then your exhaust and turbo could shorten the life of the mount due to excessive heat.

Before anyone asks well how come you don't make a heat shield? Two reasons,

1. They were cost ineffective to make given the price point people wanted to see the mounts sold for.

2. When we did make heat shields people were throwing them away.

Hence rather than wasting my money on something that is not cost effective and people will discard? I decided to sell them without with a Strong statement towards people using the factory heatshield or in sliders case using heat shielding material.

secondtonone317 · 04-21-2010, 11:08 AM

how much are these? I hate that nismo mounts are so bulky but I like the comfort

Om1kron · 04-21-2010, 11:13 AM

probably should wrap them in the gold heat foil... also would be a good idea to maybe invest also in starter studs like the stock/nismo mounts so idiots don't strip or re-thread the studs in your mounts.

Just my 2 cents on improving your product. Make the foil optional. Not hard at all to apply.

drift freaq · 04-21-2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondtonone317

how much are these? I hate that nismo mounts are so bulky but I like the comfort

they are $120 a set plus shipping. I am possibly going to be doing a new group buy if the interest picks up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

probably should wrap them in the gold heat foil... also would be a good idea to maybe invest also in starter studs like the stock/nismo mounts so idiots don't strip or re-thread the studs in your mounts.

Just my 2 cents on improving your product. Make the foil optional. Not hard at all to apply.

Thanks for the input Wayne,

Honestly though in all the time I have sold these I have never had a problem with people stripping the threads in the studs.

They come with brand new lock nuts or nuts with washers that thread on quite readily.

I would have to look into the foil idea but again its a question of cost vs return. If the cost is greater than the return it makes no sense.

Oh and that is pretty much why I have never done a trans mount. The amount it would cost to do a run vs the amount of people actually buying? Cost ineffective.

On top of that if I did a trans mount the price of the setup would rise significantly and in today's cost conscious 240 world? LOL

*slider2828* · 04-21-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

probably should wrap them in the gold heat foil... also would be a good idea to maybe invest also in starter studs like the stock/nismo mounts so idiots don't strip or re-thread the studs in your mounts.

Just my 2 cents on improving your product. Make the foil optional. Not hard at all to apply.

I'll just use that protective silver material.... and wrap it around like I did on my ball joints... easy stuff, but its expensive. So I mean on the street, doubt there would be any problems, but track, I will use the wrap material....

The threads on the bolts are course threads, so I wouldn't worry too much about stripping, unless someone doesn't use hand tightening techniques first...

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondtonone317

how much are these? I hate that nismo mounts are so bulky but I like the comfort

These are 100% times more comfortable than nismo's.... nismo suck... but I never been using solid mounts....

MrChow · 04-21-2010, 12:42 PM

I had them. There GREAT mounts for the price. But to be honest about a 1/2 year I had to replace them.... They tore apart some how. It was really sad for me.
I DD my car and track. I have a lot dips and bumps i go over but Idk if that did them or what.

Anyways my 2 cents.

drift freaq · 04-21-2010, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrChow

I had them. There GREAT mounts for the price. But to be honest about a 1/2 year I had to replace them.... They tore apart some how. It was really sad for me.
I DD my car and track. I have a lot dips and bumps i go over but Idk if that did them or what.

Anyways my 2 cents.

There was a redesign in between when you bought your mounts and his. Also if there is a problem and its within a reasonable time from the purchase than I will warranty them.

This is not a blanket warranty. All things can be affected by excessive use.

Of course Racepar1's were the previous design and his lasted 2 years and are in another car as I speak.

Another thing to remember is the effect from turbo heat. Urethane will get affected by excessive heat.

D.Adams · 04-21-2010, 02:43 PM

i have been looking at these mounts for some time now. once my nismo's take a shit i will be buying a set of these not only because of the price but to help out a fellow zilvian. Also good write up to the op

fcdrifter20 · 04-21-2010, 02:47 PM

i will also be buying a set of these as soon as i get my motor finished up. i have heard nothing but good things about these mounts.

ZX88 · 04-21-2010, 03:03 PM

nismo ones are great with the sr20. no exploding oilpans.

MrChow · 04-21-2010, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

There was a redesign in between when you bought yours mounts and his. Also if there is a problem and its within a reasonable time from the purchase than I will warranty them.

This is not a blanket warranty. All things can be affected by excessive use.

Of course Racepar1's were the previous design and his lasted 2 years and are in another car as I speak.

Another thing to remember is the effect from turbo heat. Urethane will get affected by excessive heat.

Doubt it was a heat problem.. When the mount that wasn't near the exhaust was more damaged than the one that was.
But the new mount design is pretty cool. I've did a lot research about all the new stuff.

*slider2828* · 04-21-2010, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZX88

nismo ones are great with the sr20. no exploding oilpans.

How is this even relevant when I had both, and DF's mounts aren't lower than the Stabilizer bar?

SoSideways · 04-22-2010, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slider2828

How is this even relevant when I had both, and DF's mounts aren't lower than the Stabilizer bar?

I don't know man, I have Nismo mounts, and have since the SR was dropped into the car back in 2003, and my oil pan is level with my front sway bar.

If these mounts lowered my motor by a half an inch like you said, my oil pan will be lower than my sway bar, thus SR explosion will occur.

*slider2828* · 04-22-2010, 10:16 AM

I'll take pics.... if I can get under it LOL.

Allmtoreg · 04-22-2010, 09:59 PM

how stiff are they really compared to other aftermarket mounts? Im running peak performance race trans mount and i was most likely looking towards cusco mounts or something like that mount design. but im interested now in trying these since alot of people seem to like them.

SoSideways · 04-22-2010, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allmtoreg

how stiff are they really compared to other aftermarket mounts? Im running peak performance race trans mount and i was most likely looking towards cusco mounts or something like that mount design. but im interested now in trying these since alot of people seem to like them.

I think you should support an OG of this community that is selling a good product that you are interested in.

Cusco has all the Subaru guys to back them now anyway.

*slider2828* · 04-23-2010, 12:43 AM

^^ Agreed! I love his mounts...

Allmtoreg · 04-23-2010, 09:05 PM

well you say theres not much vibration which is good. but do they hold the engine down as well as the nismos do (when they arent blown)

*slider2828* · 04-23-2010, 09:34 PM

HUH? Mounts don't really hold the engine down per se.... The engine rocks back and forth and there is a screw.... I think its fine..... I have 370 WHP... 320 FTLB of torque, and it works... I dunno about long term, but df stands behind his stuff if i breaks.... will let you know whn I track it.

drift freaq · 04-28-2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slider2828

HUH? Mounts don't really hold the engine down per se.... The engine rocks back and forth and there is a screw.... I think its fine..... I have 370 WHP... 320 FTLB of torque, and it works... I dunno about long term, but df stands behind his stuff if i breaks.... will let you know whn I track it.

Thanks and yes like I mentioned before there were some design mods done to them. They have seen a lot of track use as well.

04-21-2010, 06:10 AM	#6
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Nismo's are fine, for the first year or so. After that, they feel just like stock. Well, not old blown stock but stock new. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

04-21-2010, 10:17 AM	#9
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I have had about 15k miles on the nismo's they never squished at all, which I was hoping... Engine remained same height as when I first put them on. The mounts even look new after 15k miles on them no sagging.... But the engine was just too high... I think most people don't notice because they are still using a two piece shaft..... I use a 1 piece steal and solid bushings / poly bushings everywhere with stiff coils. You can easily tell the difference in mounts. 100% sure they have a height difference.... nismo's don't squish at least not mine... __________________ Turn and Burn!

04-21-2010, 11:13 AM	#13
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 6,879 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	probably should wrap them in the gold heat foil... also would be a good idea to maybe invest also in starter studs like the stock/nismo mounts so idiots don't strip or re-thread the studs in your mounts. Just my 2 cents on improving your product. Make the foil optional. Not hard at all to apply. __________________ Wayne

04-21-2010, 02:43 PM	#18
D.Adams Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lake Havasu City Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 2,587 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	i have been looking at these mounts for some time now. once my nismo's take a shit i will be buying a set of these not only because of the price but to help out a fellow zilvian. Also good write up to the op __________________ “About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the ends.” ―Herbert Hoover The build http://zilvia.net/f/builds-builds-on...u-city-az.html Owner of NVS Fabrications

04-21-2010, 03:03 PM	#20
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 32 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	nismo ones are great with the sr20. no exploding oilpans. __________________ SNOW PANTS OR NO PANTS.

04-20-2010, 10:33 PM	#1
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Product Review: Drift Freaq's Engine Mouts Buy his engine mounts.... I had POS new Nismo engine mounts all around with Nismo tranny mounts. Had steering tremors, felt vibrations like crazy, just felt really stiff all around AND there is DEFINITELY a 1" height difference between the Nismo's and DF's Mounts... My greddy FSTB had heavy dents from my engine torque cause it wouldn't clear with spacers already on there!.... You can already see the difference in height that is about 1/2" difference Here you can see it installed on the turbo side... The stupid nismo ones had a little tabe to keep it from spinning which in my theory thinks the engine couldnt' sit flush with the mounts Driving impressions immediately are quieter more comfortable ride, less steering tremors all around, quieter on launch.... I am pretty sure the mounts will settle a little more over time, but these are unbelieveable! Run down: #1: Better than Nismo's in comfort meaning less vibration #2: Easier install cause you can twist these any way you want to have it sit more flush tan nismos... 1 screw is in the middle of the mount which is up side and offset screw is down. #3 The engine sits 1" lower than Nismo's #4 WAAYYYY cheaper than Nismo's... I am currently am using the nismo tranny mount with these engine mounts and its a good combo... To install on SR: Remove Clutch Fan. Loosening Engine Mounts from the bottom. You can get to all 4 nuts from the bottom. Remove Front Strut Tower Bar. Put a piece of wood the size of your oil pan and lift the engine with a jack. Screw in the middle of DF's mount go into engine side, and offset screw side goes to the frame side. (MOST IMPORTANT) Use anti-seize on bolts.. These seize really easily with heat from engine. Put in engine mounts and rotate mounts till they sit flush. Bolt everything back in and go for a drive! Good Stuff Drift Freaq! My Car Specs: Motoria Arms all around, Megan Tracks, Solid Diff Mounts, Solid Subframe Mounts, SPL Inner and Outer Tie Rods.... 370WHP at 330FT/LB of Torque..... __________________ Turn and Burn!

04-20-2010, 10:42 PM	#2
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 32 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	i like all of it except for the sitting lower part!..... but i do have a skid plate __________________

04-20-2010, 11:09 PM	#3
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Lower means what is perceived stock.... By no means it sits lower than the lower stabilizer bar.... I think it sits normal actually.... The nismo sits very high..... __________________ Turn and Burn!

04-21-2010, 03:31 AM	#4
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I remember people saying something about some nismo motor mounts for the CA18 being different heights than SR ones or whatever. But As for the height difference, is there a difference once it is installed? Because I'd imagine the Nismo/OEM ones would 'squish' more so than the Drift Freaq mounts and that the install height might be near the same. __________________

04-21-2010, 05:14 AM	#5
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 36 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	are the Nismo's really that bad? i have never heard anything but positive feedback from people using them.

04-21-2010, 07:01 AM	#7
Jakob Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: deutschland Age: 32 Posts: 483 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i have these mounts, car feels great and no rattles at all (except the stuff that is actually loose and shouldn't be lol ). might pick up another set because my buddy wants them too!

04-21-2010, 07:06 AM	#8
sirfallsalot243 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doylestown, PA Age: 33 Posts: 468 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'll be interested to see how they last. Make sure to update this when you get some miles on em.

04-21-2010, 10:55 AM	#10
secondtonone317 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: woodhaven Queens, NY Age: 35 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	damm, nice.......man I jumped to nismos after a bad experience with aolid mounts, if I get tired of nismos I will try these, I like that they take up less room

04-21-2010, 11:08 AM	#12
secondtonone317 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: woodhaven Queens, NY Age: 35 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	how much are these? I hate that nismo mounts are so bulky but I like the comfort

04-21-2010, 02:47 PM	#19
fcdrifter20 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: riverside, ca Age: 33 Posts: 2,869 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	i will also be buying a set of these as soon as i get my motor finished up. i have heard nothing but good things about these mounts.

04-22-2010, 10:16 AM	#24
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I'll take pics.... if I can get under it LOL. __________________ Turn and Burn!

04-22-2010, 09:59 PM	#25
Allmtoreg Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: EC Florida Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	how stiff are they really compared to other aftermarket mounts? Im running peak performance race trans mount and i was most likely looking towards cusco mounts or something like that mount design. but im interested now in trying these since alot of people seem to like them.

04-23-2010, 12:43 AM	#27
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	^^ Agreed! I love his mounts... __________________ Turn and Burn!

04-23-2010, 09:05 PM	#28
Allmtoreg Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: EC Florida Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	well you say theres not much vibration which is good. but do they hold the engine down as well as the nismos do (when they arent blown)

04-23-2010, 09:34 PM	#29
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	HUH? Mounts don't really hold the engine down per se.... The engine rocks back and forth and there is a screw.... I think its fine..... I have 370 WHP... 320 FTLB of torque, and it works... I dunno about long term, but df stands behind his stuff if i breaks.... will let you know whn I track it. __________________ Turn and Burn!

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