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12-09-2012, 03:30 PM | #31 |
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Here in America we like to be cool and follow trends!
Very clean and well document build! Vids? |
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12-09-2012, 03:52 PM | #32 |
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Yeah I think it's mostly because we can get basically every other engine separate. A half cut is a lot more expensive.
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12-09-2012, 04:28 PM | #33 |
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After reading your post I did a quick search, and found this. Since the company is based in Texas when I go home for the holidays I will check this out. I was hoping to find a vq30 and turbo it, but this looks whole lot better. Just my 2 bits!
Nissan Cima Infiniti M45 JDM VQ30DET Engine VQ30 DET Motor Trans 3 0L Japanese | eBay |
12-09-2012, 04:32 PM | #35 | ||
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but that said a friend bought a bare VQ30DET to drop into his 910 Datsun for $300, runs 10.7 @ 128. Funny old place Australia, as we have such easy access to Jap engines there are plenty of weird and wacky conversions around. |
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12-09-2012, 04:36 PM | #36 | |
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Just a note, my motor is a Y33 Cima motor, that motor is a Y34 (Neo) - I think i might have a wiring diagram for that but absolutely have a spot on Y33 diagram. Also, if you are going to use the auto, make sure they include the auto ECU, its separate from the engine ECU and many forget to include it. |
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12-09-2012, 04:47 PM | #37 |
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My plans are to drop this into a 270z, few of my buddies decided to go LS with their 270 swaps. I hope to pick up my chassis in a few weeks!
Sorry for thread jacking! 240z my bad! Last edited by lewisfk; 12-10-2012 at 06:34 PM.. Reason: ^^ type o |
12-09-2012, 04:54 PM | #38 | |
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Makes me happy more people are considering these engines, lot more difficult than a RB or to some extent a JZ conversion but a VQ being only around 20kgs heavier than a SR20DET and mounted further back it can only be a good thing Also looks like a VQ35DE 4.2L stroked kit will work on a VQ30DET block as well so a decent capacity increase is available if warranted |
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12-10-2012, 11:21 AM | #40 | |
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vq30det engine vg30 trans r33 gtst front brakes (installed) s15 sr20det complete subframe, rear suspension arms, rear brakes, axles, only missing the r200 diff (plans to upgrade to r32/33 gtr diff, axles and hubs) Custom Garrett based turbo with 67 mm comp inducer (T04R or T04Z) in ported comp housing and p trim turbine in t3 twin scroll 0.70 a/r turbine housing Turbosmart 45 mm wastegate Turbosmart Raceport bOV Intercooler 600mm x 300 mm x 76 mm with 3 inch in/out 3 row radiator ISC coilovers (installed) OMP TRS bucket seats and sliders Dished steering wheel, Nardi I think Aeromotive Stealth 340 lph fuel pump Parts ordered : Microtech LT 16 ecu for vq30det NRG quick release Parts to get/made : Flywheel and clutch kit Engine to trans adaptor Driveshaft Suspension arms, anti roll bars, bushings and super angle kit Fuel system (injectors, fpr, fuel tank, fuel rail) r32/33 gtr aftermarket clutch lsd 4/5 point seatbelts 4 seater rollcage Rollcage padding Oil cooler Expecting many more parts will need to be acquired Car still daily driven by me with its tired rb20e. Still a long way to go. The cam spacer you made goes to between the cam and the timing gear/sprocket? or to the back of the cam? Thanks psi |
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12-10-2012, 11:42 AM | #41 | |
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Here people are swapping the usual engines, sr20det, rb20det, rb25det, 1jzgte, 2jzgte, and a few 1uzfe also 4g63t, mostly into A31 Cefiro as it is the last and only rwd sedan platform we get for mass sale aside from luxury brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and the likes. We love Ceffys here, you can see in Speedhunters Formula Drift Asia Jakarta for some drift action here. I think of vq30det as almost perfect combination of 2jz displacement, torque, power, strength with sr20det lightweight and weight disribution. However it is not well known and only came in auto, so must spend more to get manual set up. Also for USA where vq35de+ manual trans (vq, vg, rb trans works) is relatively easily available, I think using a vq35de is an equally good alternative to using vq30det. Yes vq30det is ready to handle boost from Nissan (just look at the Aussie r32 swap with vq30det + t04z turbo, 500 whp with stock vq30det engine), but no manual trans. Vq35de you readily get manual trans in USA, internal parts to upgrade are also plentiful. |
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12-10-2012, 05:25 PM | #43 | ||
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Cheers mate, just been chipping away at it - try and spend a couple of hours on it every other night.
Actually while I’m thinking about it, if it helps anyone this is how the plenum was modified to fit the engine bay In both height and rear space. Plenum ‘mid’ manifold was cut, milled flat and welded, needed around an inch out of it to allow the hood to close. And this is how the plenum had to be modified: Sits under the hood with about ¼ inch headspace Quote:
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Cam spacer goes between the cam gear and cam, basically if you intend in using a VQ35 spec cam you will need a spacer. I’m sure you already know this but you do know the Z33 gearbox bolts up to the VQ30DET, but can understand why you have gone the Z32 route (being a fair bit stronger). Also on a side note I’d check and confirm that the LT16 ECU will be able to run the VQ30, very few ECU’s can run it out of the box (only one I can think of is an Adaptronic which has a special VQ30 mode). To get most ECU’s to run you will need to shave all but one of the ‘slots’ off the cam gear, this combined with the crank pickup should work. Stock the cam gear has the following slots. I, II, III, IIII, IIIII, IIIII Did you have any thoughts around using the stock ECU with Nistune? – while I haven’t tuned my car as yet it has been fantastic so far, works great with the idle solenoid, cams, 1000cc injectors and a 90mm Ford Lightning supercharged V8 MAF. I know Microtech products fairly well as I had a LT8 on one of my older cars, love the hand controller. |
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12-12-2012, 11:27 AM | #44 |
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That vg looks cleaner in the s15 then the other car you pulled it out of. Looks like a very tight fit. I was worried while I was reading that you were not gonna be able to fit it, especially with that intense manifold.
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12-12-2012, 11:52 AM | #45 |
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^not a vg^
i smile everytime i see this build whether it be on here or thr PF forum (im the guy who asked for the PDF) looks like i will have the first VQ30DET s-chassis in the US coming up this summer(to my knowledge), just wiring, turbo plumbing/oiling, and nistune!!! |
12-12-2012, 11:56 AM | #46 | |
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12-12-2012, 03:41 PM | #47 |
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Hi
Fantastic build! I'm doing a vq35de swap at the moment and i'm using Mc-kinney mounts. I'm not happy with how te engine sits in the enginebay. Can you post some beter pictures how it fits the bay? And any chance i can buy the mounts you have made!? Keep on the good work I would have an eye on this Regards rik |
12-12-2012, 04:49 PM | #48 | |||
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The engine bay is tight, but everything has its place so its not too bad to work on. Pretty much everything can be got to easily by the top or underneath. The manifold is fairly tight too, and being cast iron will never, ever crack Quote:
Few drift cars in Australia fitted with VQ30’s but as far as I’m aware mine is the first S15 to be done. I know of one other S15 in NZ being fitted with a VQ30 as well. So much work required so it’s not really for the faint hearted. A JZ/RB conversion would have been infinitely simpler (but not as cool!!). Quote:
I looked at the mc-kinney mounts before I settled with mine – what don’t you like about their kit? I’m very happy with my mounts but they took some time to come, I sourced them from New Zealand and took around 8 months from order placement to delivery. If you are on a tight timeframe they may not be the mounts for you (were also rather expensive, but I believe the quality was well worth it). I can certainly ask for you. As for other engine bay pics, what specifically are you after? – I posted a few bare engine pics on the first page, if that’s no help let me know what you are after. |
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12-13-2012, 04:29 PM | #49 |
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Hi
Thanks for the reply I saw the pictures and couldt see it right Could you make pictures like this As you can see the engine is sideways and i have to do a lot of tricks to line the crank in the center of the car I think your engine has a better fit than mine If you could inform for me about the cost and time for production and delivery to the netherlands Regards rik |
12-13-2012, 04:56 PM | #50 |
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This is a wonderfully refreshing change of pace Awesome stuff! Atop of that, super clean! I'm a huge fan of OEM+
...ps: Any chance for better numbers on that slip yoke? It seems a spicer unit, but hard to clarify the part numbers.
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12-15-2012, 06:57 PM | #51 |
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Nice job! VQ power! I've been saying that vq's are going to be the next swap to have around here, nice to see others doing it. I'm running a vq35de-t I went a little more crazy on the headers and such but it's for a full race/drift car. Here's a link to my build if you get curious,
92' VQvia, Kansai Drifter's return to the big bank 2013 Pro-Am build thread Here's a teaser pic. We tried to keep our manifolds for the most free flow. used 11 gauge tubing 304 stainless steel. I'm really happy with how they came out. Going to be keeping an eye on this thread haha
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12-18-2012, 06:09 PM | #52 | |||
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No problems, I’ll see what I can do for you mate. My engine is perfectly centred, running a measuring tape from strut tower to strut tower the engine is perfectly central. I’ll grab a pic like that for you next time I’m in the garage Quote:
I believe it’s the same as a Nissan Titan Truck (32 spline) so have a crack at that! Quote:
Nice work with the radiator cap being where it is, will make a huge difference to cooling. What ECU are you going to use to run it? Next time I’m in the US I would love to come and check this out! --- Anyways I have updates! – The car has officially hit the road. So I decided to see if it would drive on the weekend, ended up doing about 130 miles of road tuning (in 95F heat so about as hot as it'll ever see ) No leaks, no bangs, no rattles & still handles well (feels like no weight has been added at all) - everything worked as it should. Tune wise most cruise is now sorted - idle will need a fair bit of work but we seem to be making positive progress (so many idle parameters in Nistune, once its sorted it will be perfect). Initially we weren't going to tune for boost but ended up seeing 14psi - think its going to go OK The turbo sound freaking magic as it spools and gearing is just about perfect to rip through the gears to keep it spooled . Talking of which I’m in love with the 350Z box, perfect ratios and feels so positive... just all round awesomeness. Will need to go see exhaust man about a couple of mufflers though, its loud enough to wake the dead. This is the finished engine bay with all systems now hooked up. And this is how i sorted out the boost controller. Early xmas present to myself |
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12-19-2012, 07:40 PM | #55 |
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Simply amazing. Quality work, great creativity. I wasn't even aware this motor existed until now. Please post some in-car action vids and fly bys. We need to hear this baby rawr.
+1 on the HP/TQ ratings, or at least goals. Also, could you PM me the name of the shop in TX were you got the driveshaft made? Thanks. Last edited by RastaS14; 12-20-2012 at 05:07 PM.. |
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