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Old 12-02-2009, 06:18 PM   #91
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As much as I understand how people get upset when things like this happen wish their condelences and such but I think more people should be angry. The passengers may not have been behind the wheel but they are very much responsible (Not wearing a seatbelt, allowing somebody to drive like that with them IN THE CAR). I mean look some jackass killed three people, one of which was a mere child (16 is very much a child IMO), sure we all make mistakes, most of us will never make a mistake of this magnitude. I think thats the biggest reason people don't learn, we act sorry for the individual. Sure they have to live with the guilt but sometimes that really doesn't do it justice. Just as Hypertek said over time it stops being an effective deterant and people resort do their old ways.
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Friend just sent me this, he knew one of the people who died.


I just literally crashed my bike on Saturday, but walked away unscathed, and you know WHY?

Because I was at a track. I crashed on turn 11 at thunderhill. I turned in too early and overcooked it, went wide and ended up on my ass. There were no trees at the track, just lots and lots of runoff, aka just dirt and grass, and I crashed it on completely smooth pavement.

Please people take it to the track.

For those of you who say you are young etc, don't buy into that Bull, save your money and work at it. I'm only 19 myself and pay my way through it all, its a lot slower but I also learn a lot from the instructors they provide and from all the more experienced people.
I think you're right about the "take it to the track" thing but the driver was young and wanted to show off in front of his friend obviously. He was going 90. When you think about it, most people go that fast on a regular drive to work everyday. You can speed without being in a race. He just lost control. It happens. Sometimes it ends fine and sometimes it ends horribly like this time. He just apparently didn't have enough driving experience thus he took the corner too fast/sharp/etc.

Just trying to say there is a difference between racing and speeding on public roads. We've all gotten a speeding ticket I'm sure.

Also, this is the reason why they say "buckle up for safety".... I've never understood why some people don't take the 2 seconds to put on a seat belt..
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Also, while this is sad, death happens. Many many many times a day. We all know it. It just becomes more real when you actually know someone who dies.
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This guy needs a constant reminder of how he single-handedly ended 3 lives all for the sake of the thrill.
Maybe they were egging him on, at least one of them? Girls especially seem to tend to do that, at least to me, although I never give in. I am pretty sure any non-retarded person would slow down if all the passengers were pleading him/her to do so. Then again most intelligent would not speed, whether to show off or even if being persuaded to do so.
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Also, this is the reason why they say "buckle up for safety".... I've never understood why some people don't take the 2 seconds to put on a seat belt..
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He was going 90. When you think about it, most people go that fast on a regular drive to work everyday.
Yeah dude, on the Interstate, not a friggin 2 lane undivided winding highway.
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Yes this is realty smacking us in the face, but people that make such poor decisions and the ones that go along with it have to understand that their is consequences for driving that fast and THINGS do happen.But the statement "take it to the track" never really gets practiced and then you get this. RIP, condolences to the family of the departed
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Wow thats his car? I didn't recognize the screen name, but I sure do recognize the car. I do remember seeing a lot of his post. RIP

Never met him.

But this is jsut a sad story such young lifes were lost.

driving like an idiot or not people should make people wear there seat belts or else kick them out of the car
people should learn from this real talk.
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This is what I think of these types of situation: There are several factors to consider here. I've been into cars for a long time, starting with Hondas, when street racing was booming, especially freeway runs. I used to have passengers with me all the time, mainly members of my car club. This was the unspoken rule, that everyone knew: If you got into my car, you know that I may race, and or drive recklessly. If you don't want to be involved, don't jump in. It was the same for everyone else in my club. There have been times, when someone new (mainly girls), would ride with me. I would always ask them, if they felt comfortable with me speeding, and if they weren't well, then I wouldn't. Street racing, and touge driving will never end. I don't understand why people keep saying, "When will people learn?" It's not that people aren't learning, it's because they are choosing to do what they want to do, knowing the consequences. A lot of people know someone that has died or been hurt from some type of illegal racing activity. Does that stop them from continuing to do it? I'm not saying it's right, but illegal racing, drifting, and mountain driving, are a huge part of what makes up the car scene. It is something that will never go away, as long as their are tuner cars being built. It all comes down to this: Do what you want, just remember, that YOU will resposible for your actions. One last note: If you are in a situation, where you don't feel safe, SPEAK UP!!! If you just sit there, and don't say anything, how is the driver to know, that you are afraid? It's your life, and you have a right to protect it. If you don't say anything, you are being part of the problem. RIP to the families of these victims.
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RIP DirtyOldMan, my condolences to all the deceased's family and friends.
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This is what I think of these types of situation: There are several factors to consider here. I've been into cars for a long time, starting with Hondas, when street racing was booming, especially freeway runs. I used to have passengers with me all the time, mainly members of my car club. This was the unspoken rule, that everyone knew: If you got into my car, you know that I may race, and or drive recklessly. If you don't want to be involved, don't jump in. It was the same for everyone else in my club. There have been times, when someone new (mainly girls), would ride with me. I would always ask them, if they felt comfortable with me speeding, and if they weren't well, then I wouldn't. Street racing, and touge driving will never end. I don't understand why people keep saying, "When will people learn?" It's not that people aren't learning, it's because they are choosing to do what they want to do, knowing the consequences. A lot of people know someone that has died or been hurt from some type of illegal racing activity. Does that stop them from continuing to do it? I'm not saying it's right, but illegal racing, drifting, and mountain driving, are a huge part of what makes up the car scene. It is something that will never go away, as long as their are tuner cars being built. It all comes down to this: Do what you want, just remember, that YOU will resposible for your actions. One last note: If you are in a situation, where you don't feel safe, SPEAK UP!!! If you just sit there, and don't say anything, how is the driver to know, that you are afraid? It's your life, and you have a right to protect it. If you don't say anything, you are being part of the problem. RIP to the families of these victims.
wow yeah this sums it up.

I always look around the forums never posting but I remember this guy's username. I remember when I first saw the username DirtyOldMan it gave me quite a laugh
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Damn I've been hearing about this from everyone that was there its realll sad RIP to alex an EJ... Mark its sad what happened and im sorry your mistake will have to haunt u for the rest of your life...
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RIP Alex Weast, Nan Hee Pak, and Elijah John Shaw. I hope you're hanging in there Mark.
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RIP to those who died, it's a tragedy.

Sadly, people won't learn. Half the people who posted here criticizing the driver is going to be doing something stupid on the streets within the next few weeks. It's what happens while you're young. You just have to hope that you make it through until you wise up. I really hope the driver becomes an advocate and mentors kids about the dangers of street racing in some sort of capacity because it could happen to anyone. And when I say street racing, I mean anything from drag racing on the street to exhibition of speed.
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Wow I just found out about this from SRT-4 Ed! Can't balieve this happend! everyone fell apart! Won Mark, Alex... I cant belive this! Worst part is I work with Alex's dad!
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It really is sad. My condolences are to all their families. Mark is hanging in there though.
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Saw Alex's car the other night. Still a shock to see it and think where's Alex!? Then it just hella hits you. RIP Alex
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Wow dude you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that what the hell is wrong with you??
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I do. Youre a douche- thats what theyre talking about. Have some respect. The fact that the accident happened 6 months ago is irrelevant. You felt the need to come in and bash someone for bumping the thread- this is not the place for noobie training.

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you guys are digging to far into this

it has already happened
we must learn from others mistakes

RIP

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i guess thats how other get by. by egging someone throughout the internet.
dude you gotta stfu, your making a small comment turn to something its not. There was no point in bumping and bringing back this old thread.
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dude you gotta stfu, your making a small comment turn to something its not. There was no point in bumping and bringing back this old thread.
look at you idiot. you did bumped it back. as far as i remember the first person to bump was just paying a respect. so dont point fingers to me. another person thinks better than the other.

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