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a2ddryft · 12-24-2002, 11:44 PM

if i end up getting my s13, i will eventually make it into a Sileighty. I was just wondering how hard it was to do this? and what are the figures ($$$) id be looking at?

thanks guys..

uuninja · 12-24-2002, 11:56 PM

< smartass >Your car has a 180sx front

< / smartass >

Well after I read the rest of your message, it is pretty clear that you want an s13 silvia front end. The swap is easy, a dirrect bolt up. Youl need the following. 2 silvia fenders, 2 headlights, 2 corner lights, 1 grill, 1 bumper, 1 hood, and this part is key 2 headlight suports. The rest is nuts, bolts and wreaching.

This link should help. http://sr20.hybrids.jp/installations...ont/index.html

a2ddryft · 12-25-2002, 11:28 AM

thanks for the smartass remark u idiot..
...just playin'... haha

yea that swap isnt too complicated.. i just need to know how much money we're talking about here

Dousan_PG · 12-25-2002, 11:41 AM

average cost for an S13 front end nowadays is 1000-1300 depending on condition, paint, headlight types and the supports and such etc.

X-Iceman · 12-25-2002, 04:21 PM

am... you mean gettin a 180sx and puttin a s13 front end on it?? Or do you mean gettin a coupe 240sx and gettin ride of the flip ups and puttin on the projectors??? so ya, if you have a hatchback/coupe its a bolt on. but.. ya... to your own.. <-

a2ddryft · 12-25-2002, 05:02 PM

well, i was going to get a hatchback, then eventually do the sil front end

X-Iceman · 12-26-2002, 03:35 PM

Right on. I personally love the whole sileighty look. But a'las,

i am conserned for safety and apted for air bags.

but get some picks up when you get it done.

a2ddryft · 12-26-2002, 04:35 PM

i will defineatly get sum pics up... but of course.. i have to aquire a 240sx first. lol. i currently have a VW.. and i want to trade it for a s13 asap...

SilviaDriver · 12-26-2002, 08:04 PM

Silviaholic · 12-26-2002, 08:21 PM

leave it so SilviaDriver to make my night THAT much easier....

damn...thank you...

My question is as follows:

how does the f/e swap effect the air bag system?

Silviaholic

a2ddryft · 12-26-2002, 08:39 PM

of course im a newbie. and damn proud...

SilviaDriver · 12-26-2002, 09:17 PM

i was only joking anyways..

do a search on the web, i actually found a couple of sites that give u step by step info wiht pics on how to do the s13 conversion. read from there you can determine whether it will be hard or not. i tried to search it but cant ifnd it, but its out there

*ca18guy* · 12-26-2002, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SilviaDriver
i was only joking anyways..

do a search on the web, i actually found a couple of sites that give u step by step info wiht pics on how to do the s13 conversion. read from there you can determine whether it will be hard or not. i tried to search it but cant ifnd it, but its out there

Do you even read threads anymore or just post after reading the title?

A link to step by step instuctions was posted in the second post.

SilviaDriver · 12-26-2002, 09:46 PM

haha, i only skim thru post, i dont read it all the way thru sometimes, dont wanna spend all my time reading a single post.

a2ddryft · 12-27-2002, 12:08 AM

man u guys are worse than the guys on the VW forums...

...only kidding. hahahaha.. had ya there for a sec didnt i...

SHINCHU · 12-27-2002, 01:04 PM

s13 has airbags? this is news to me. i hate airbags. if they are so good, why dont i see them in race cars? hhmMMM??! if my s13 has an airbag, somebody sell me a momo wheel or something... airbag. *BLEH* just gimme a good set fo 4 point harness.

Chris

a2ddryft · 12-27-2002, 01:46 PM

amen

a2ddryft · 12-27-2002, 01:51 PM

amen

*ca18guy* · 12-27-2002, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shinchu180sx
s13 has airbags? this is news to me. i hate airbags. if they are so good, why dont i see them in race cars? hhmMMM??! if my s13 has an airbag, somebody sell me a momo wheel or something... airbag. *BLEH* just gimme a good set fo 4 point harness.

Chris

Might have something to do with a race car driver wearing a helmet being buckled in a racing harness surronded by a roll cage.

nrcooled · 12-27-2002, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ca18guy
Might have something to do with a race car driver wearing a helmet being buckled in a racing harness surronded by a roll cage.

I'm glad you pointed that out caguy! Anyway the Sileighty conversion is nice it's one of the generic questions that newbs ask all the time. I say more power to you on the coupes it just looks right (due to the boxy rear the boxy front looks much better) and on the fb it gives it a unique feel. I have seen two and liked both. One w/ projectors and one w/ halogens ::shhhh I like projectors more::

AKADriver · 12-27-2002, 03:36 PM

S13 240SXs don't have airbags. That's why we have those stupid electric seatbelts. So, you can rest easier knowing you run a decent chance of eating steering wheel in an accident

The kouki 180SX in Japan is the only S13 I know if with airbags, and even then there's only a driver's airbag. Before anyone asks, no, I doubt anyone has any idea if they could be retrofitted to a US car. It's probably possible at great expense, if you want airbags buy an S14.

Dousan_PG · 12-27-2002, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKADriver
S13 240SXs don't have airbags. That's why we have those stupid electric seatbelts. So, you can rest easier knowing you run a decent chance of eating steering wheel in an accident

but only the USDM had electric seatbelts. everyone else had manual ones!

i dont like airbags too. i would have gotten an s14 if i wanted/needed one.

Silviaholic · 12-29-2002, 08:05 PM

my auto belt thingy is all broken and ****...so I have to buckle up twice...

Im really starting to hate my 240, I need to a) buy a 180 that was properly maintained and babied...or b) just go get that s14a I have been drooling over for the last three months...

damn $7.76 an hour dosent do **** for cars....

anyone wanna help me learn to sell drugs? It seems to be the cool thing too do and apparenly (says the movies/MTV) you make "mad bling bling and get props and stuff"

:-D

12-24-2002, 11:44 PM	#1
a2ddryft Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jo ca Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how difficult is the 180 front? if i end up getting my s13, i will eventually make it into a Sileighty. I was just wondering how hard it was to do this? and what are the figures ($$$) id be looking at? thanks guys..

12-24-2002, 11:56 PM	#2
uuninja Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reston, VA Age: 43 Posts: 812 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	< smartass >Your car has a 180sx front < / smartass > Well after I read the rest of your message, it is pretty clear that you want an s13 silvia front end. The swap is easy, a dirrect bolt up. Youl need the following. 2 silvia fenders, 2 headlights, 2 corner lights, 1 grill, 1 bumper, 1 hood, and this part is key 2 headlight suports. The rest is nuts, bolts and wreaching. This link should help. http://sr20.hybrids.jp/installations...ont/index.html __________________ Lurker Supreme! www.midatlantic240sx.com 91 Coupe 97 KA24DE+T SOLD Last edited by uuninja; 12-24-2002 at 11:59 PM..

12-25-2002, 11:41 AM	#4
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	average cost for an S13 front end nowadays is 1000-1300 depending on condition, paint, headlight types and the supports and such etc. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-26-2002, 08:21 PM	#10
Silviaholic Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Jersey/Philadelphia Age: 37 Posts: 261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	leave it so SilviaDriver to make my night THAT much easier.... damn...thank you... My question is as follows: how does the f/e swap effect the air bag system? Silviaholic __________________

12-29-2002, 08:05 PM	#23
Silviaholic Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Jersey/Philadelphia Age: 37 Posts: 261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my auto belt thingy is all broken and **...so I have to buckle up twice... Im really starting to hate my 240, I need to a) buy a 180 that was properly maintained and babied...or b) just go get that s14a I have been drooling over for the last three months... damn $7.76 an hour dosent do ** for cars.... anyone wanna help me learn to sell drugs? It seems to be the cool thing too do and apparenly (says the movies/MTV) you make "mad bling bling and get props and stuff" :-D __________________

12-25-2002, 11:28 AM	#3
a2ddryft Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jo ca Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks for the smartass remark u idiot.. ...just playin'... haha yea that swap isnt too complicated.. i just need to know how much money we're talking about here

12-25-2002, 04:21 PM	#5
X-Iceman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Mexico Age: 36 Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	am... you mean gettin a 180sx and puttin a s13 front end on it?? Or do you mean gettin a coupe 240sx and gettin ride of the flip ups and puttin on the projectors??? so ya, if you have a hatchback/coupe its a bolt on. but.. ya... to your own.. <-

12-25-2002, 05:02 PM	#6
a2ddryft Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jo ca Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well, i was going to get a hatchback, then eventually do the sil front end

12-26-2002, 03:35 PM	#7
X-Iceman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Mexico Age: 36 Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Right on. I personally love the whole sileighty look. But a'las, i am conserned for safety and apted for air bags. but get some picks up when you get it done.

12-26-2002, 04:35 PM	#8
a2ddryft Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jo ca Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i will defineatly get sum pics up... but of course.. i have to aquire a 240sx first. lol. i currently have a VW.. and i want to trade it for a s13 asap...

12-26-2002, 08:04 PM	#9
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 36 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews

12-26-2002, 08:39 PM	#11
a2ddryft Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jo ca Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	of course im a newbie. and damn proud...

12-26-2002, 09:17 PM	#12
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 36 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i was only joking anyways.. do a search on the web, i actually found a couple of sites that give u step by step info wiht pics on how to do the s13 conversion. read from there you can determine whether it will be hard or not. i tried to search it but cant ifnd it, but its out there

12-26-2002, 09:46 PM	#14
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 36 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	haha, i only skim thru post, i dont read it all the way thru sometimes, dont wanna spend all my time reading a single post.

12-27-2002, 12:08 AM	#15
a2ddryft Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jo ca Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	man u guys are worse than the guys on the VW forums... ...only kidding. hahahaha.. had ya there for a sec didnt i...

12-27-2002, 01:04 PM	#16
SHINCHU Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Temecula, CA Age: 42 Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SHINCHU Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s13 has airbags? this is news to me. i hate airbags. if they are so good, why dont i see them in race cars? hhmMMM??! if my s13 has an airbag, somebody sell me a momo wheel or something... airbag. BLEH just gimme a good set fo 4 point harness. Chris

12-27-2002, 01:46 PM	#17
a2ddryft Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jo ca Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	amen

12-27-2002, 01:51 PM	#18
a2ddryft Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Jo ca Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	amen

12-27-2002, 03:36 PM	#21
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 39 Posts: 3,112 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S13 240SXs don't have airbags. That's why we have those stupid electric seatbelts. So, you can rest easier knowing you run a decent chance of eating steering wheel in an accident The kouki 180SX in Japan is the only S13 I know if with airbags, and even then there's only a driver's airbag. Before anyone asks, no, I doubt anyone has any idea if they could be retrofitted to a US car. It's probably possible at great expense, if you want airbags buy an S14.

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