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View Poll Results: Do you miss you KA?
F' that I went turbo will never go back 57 37.75%
I miss my KA 34 22.52%
Went with a V8 n/a and love it 5 3.31%
I'm drunk 55 36.42%
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Old 04-24-2008, 02:27 AM   #1
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Where's the "never owned one because they were all either blown or already swapped out" option?
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I love my SR...but with all the problems i keep having, i miss having the good ole reliable KA.

but SR > KA any day
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i love the KA24DE...great piece of engineering...except for the timing chain lol
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KA24DE-T not an SR fan. Love the tq over the SR and the reliability and low cost.
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I'm drunk.


Seriously though, I have my 98 kouki with only 59k miles on it. I like the KA, the torque is nice, but its getting ripped out this summer. Im ready for SR.

Im keeping the KA though. Not sure what I want to do with it, but i'll probably end up building it and throwing it into an S13.
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so the KAT is better than the SR ?
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Oh no, here we go again lol.

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haha, if i would have had a DE, i probably would have gone KA-T

but my car was single cam, so i went SR. swap wont be done until tomorrow, so we'll see if the $4k was worth it.
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I have a freshly rebuilt N/A DE right now gonna turbo when I graduate but I like the reliablity for now. Too bad its so slow.
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i love my ka-t... that is all, driven many sr's and they are nice too, will probably do one eventually to be a fan boy, but i have basically a bolt on sr turbo setup with a gt2871 and whips ass on the sr's all day long daddy
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ka's are nice and reliable but f that truck motor and sr20's are fun and cool but its v8 time enuff with that weak ass sr20 stuff!!!!
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Haha I like how "I'm drunk" is in 2nd place.

And how are you able to make a poll? I know that can't be a premie thing because I've non-premies be able to do it. I don't see the option anywhere.
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Look more carefully MuddaFakka!!!

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What about 'I own both, and while I prefer to work on the SR, the KA is just as reliable'?
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both motors seem to take a beating pretty well? wheres that option lol
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Anyone else have an issue with Nissan transmissions? My KA trans didnt take much of a beating at all, and now grinds second. It also wont go into first at anything above 2mph. Its very notchy, not smooth like the Honda transmissions that I'm used to. Hopefully I have better luck with the SR trans and a short shifter.
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every high mileage KA i've had the input shaft bearing on the trans was toast..... luckily both SR's i've had the tranny was nice and smooth
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hmmm my first car is a zenki s14 with a red top SR, then moved out to cali and bought me a hatch w/ singlecam slammer. the KA24E, imo, was slow and always leaked oil , so i swapped for a SR again. even though i could beat the living crap out of the KA, i overall love the feel of a SR. in a nutshell, i dont miss the KA at all. once u hav boost, u will never go back!!!
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