Grenade180sx

Okay so WE the event organizers need to set a dinner date ASAP and all sit down and discuss what exactly we can do and where.
We here at Adams are always game for anything!
feel free to PM me for any questions

im all game for this!!!
it will be a year long ASB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lets makes this happen.
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obviously financial info will be discussed, but with different venues i believe Each event organizers will be able to not lose out, there are ways to do this without reaching into each others pockets aslong as everyone is on the same page!

Brian

Nothing will match ASB.... EVER.

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Grenade180sx

the word of god hahaha

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most everyone has responded to this thread involved in organizing events, except Naoki, hit him up on myspace, he is down.

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Grenade180sx

well lets get this together. my email is posted so lets start the convo and set a dinner date!

SUPERSTAR

im hungry.

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FloridaRacing

1) meet and come up with a set of rules and agreed on dates for qualifiers and events
2) each promoter holds their events at their respective track as a competition event
3) figure out a percentage of profit that goes into an account for the series for upgrades

- I talked with Mckinney Motorsports and they would be interested in offering their tire changer for events possibly
- Need to talk to a tire sponsor on selling tires at wholesale cost to racers at the event so they can afford to race, then a give away of 3 pairs for 1st place, 2 pairs for 2nd, and 1 pair for 3rd. They can be the official tire sponsor of the series, but allow any tire to run without any fee
- Local shops that have an official give away raffle, like a $250 gift certificate to ___________ and all the proceeds going to help the series from raffle sales.
- $10 or less for spectators
- Sell vendors row spots for cheap, less than $500 a race and allow them to sell parts, most don't allow that.
- Proceeds from profit to go to a tent for racers, food, grill, drinks, prize money, generator for live entertainment, PA, etc.
- Local shop to offer spec cage installs for really cheap to licensed racers, to be a sponsor and the ability for more sales on other products.

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i got some of you in, still waiting on a few others.

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Flybert

I've never driven at NOS center, Perris, or Adam's and I have no doubt in my mind that I could do well at an amateur comp held by other organizations. I could bet that the top 16 drivers of Top Drift Battle feel the same way.

I honestly think that if you don't think you can compete with the best of another organization, you probably lack the skill or the confidence to do so.

Everyone knows Top Drift Battle is the most competitive MSC style series in the US due to all the people they feed to Formula D and D1GP. They get the most coverage due to the level of driving and I think this is why people feel a little out of their comfort zone. I agree that people need to step out of their comfort zone to progress as drivers. If you're all about non-competitive fun, then there's no reason step out of your comfort zone since you're probably having fun anyways.

As for the proposed series, there's no way a bunch of grassroots dudes can afford an 8 track series, especially in this economy. This brings me to my next point. I don't see any reason for JD to participate in this. It already has a four track season with big prizes and big sponsors. It has top 16 tandem and team tandem as well as FD pro drivers as judges. The competition is always intense with the talent of drivers there. I would say that it's a step below FD in the top 8 tandem battles. It has created many local heroes as well, many of which go on to become pros. Why wouldn't you want to participate in something as competitive as this if you think you are good?

If you aren't good and you have more fun trying to win prizes at less competitive competitions, that's all fine and dandy. Have fun and do your thing but there's a lot to be gained when hanging out and competing against good drivers. You are forced to improve your driving. It gives me a lot of satisfaction when I nail clipping points, get big angle, and drive fast. I have gotten a lot of good tips from better drivers and I learned so much by riding with those people.

I like to think that developing a mentor/apprentice relationship is really good when it comes to learning drifting so it's good to surround yourselves with people that are better than you so that you can learn from them.

And one last thing, if you were to create a combo series with all the organizers, I don't think people are going to feel more comfortable when they are competing with Forrest Wang, Cody Parkhouse, Miki Frial, Mike Bolanos, Mike Essa, Matt Powers, Tommy Roberts, etc. at their home track.

Oh, and I'm thinking that all the organizations will probably showing up to that Megan event since the prize money is so huge.

That was a long rant.

drftem

ok i would just like to say we at Thurs. Knights have already decided on doing somethin of this nature. Our current schedule sets a round 1 comp at Nos center on June 14th. Then our round 2 at willow springs HTM on August 8th. our round 3 and round 4 still need to be determined of date and location. We should have pro judges . But our events are geared more to the lower level drivers then the guys that already are pro drivers.

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PanchoPanoch

You're right it would be rather difficult for a couple of grass roots guys to afford a series like this, but considering that they would be participating in a series it would open up doors making sponsorships for some of these guys not impossible.

as for something stated earlier in the thread about weeding out less experienced drivers to put it in other words there could be each track could have their own qualifying event to be able to reach out to all drivers to award the equivalent of a d1 license for this "so-cal" series.

Flybert

Do you have personal experience with this?

You don't get tire sponsors by competing in amateur events in America. There are a few ways people have been able to do it. You get sponsored by competing in pro events, doing the entire series, and doing well. You do HIN drift demos. You whore your car out at shows and get it in a magazine. You have the gift of gab and trick companies into giving you tires. That last one is happening much less nowadays. And lastly, you have to know people who know people.

As for having a license for an amateur series, there is no need. There aren't enough good drivers in socal as it is to warrant that.

fcdrifter20

this sound like so much fun!!!!!

this has got to be one of the best ideas of heard in a while.. hopefuly u guys can all get into agreement about this shortly and figure out when this is gona start going down.. but anything i can do to help, just let me kno!

jbguillo

This will NOT work; There are already way too many providers in Southern California, which makes it possible to hit 3 different drift events each week or more if you had the money, time and really wanted to. Not to mention that there are already 3 full competition series (one amateur, one advanced, and one new) in SoCal that are expanding to new territories, with other providers looking into or already starting their own series as well as random competitions put on at different times by organizations (Megan Racing competition, FD feeder series, Federal/Dai's Days, Adam's competitions, etc...).

All this will do is step on people toes, and get people pissed off at each other. Also, you have to think about how you will even acquire drivers, all active event providers already have their own "crew" of active drivers who can really only afford to do that provider's events. You can't expect most drivers to compete in multiple series, because most don't have time/can't afford it, or are completely dedicated on one series.

All of this leads me to believe that it will be almost impossible to fill a driver's list, actually set a competition date that does not conflict with another competition's date, and having event organizers getting upset with each other because of conflictions. I have been around events, and ran enough of them (both east and west coast) to know the science behind making something work, and this isn't looking so hot.

Remember that some event providers depend on profit from their events to supplement income, or keep their events going. I don't think there will be much motivation at all for providers to come together and make a series if they are not getting anything out of it, especially if it starts to hurt their driver numbers in attendance at their events. It's rare you see a fully packed event now in socal anyways...

Start a competition series in NorCal or the East coast, there's not really much going on in those places, and people are starving for series over there.

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longdy

I totally agree with the gentlemen ^^

There are so many wrong points that are not going to make this drift series possible!

-There are just too many different event holders in socal and knowing most of these event holders are mainly there to make profit!
-Organizers that will not make anything off these events won't be too happy
-Since there will be no profit made who is going to cover the capital cost to start the event/series?
-Filling the drivers list is already a daunting task for some event holders, especially when there is such a drop in the economy and people are losing their jobs left and right (sorry to sound to repetitive of other members)
-Yea I could see that getting sponsors seems like an easy task to do BUT really it is not! (I bet it's easier to get your HOT next door neighbor naked than to do this!)
-People like the idea now but REALLY how many of them are going to stay commited to such a huge event?

and the list goes on and on and on....

(Just thinking out loud!!)
I am a part of Touke Drift Event (We are in a dormant stage right now! lol) and this is what we were doing since day 1! We've been holding events that were built around the idea of having a drift event where we are out there to practice drifting not to make a profit. with what extra money we got was for odds and ends for the event.
I really see drifting today too political with sooo much drama and (mainly) profit making! I KNOW I KNOW that goes for all the other sports and stuff out there but come on! What happened to the "japan-style" drift events where its all about the PRICTICE and HAVING FUN! Where families and close friends go out to drift events to have fun and meet new people. IONO
(AGAIN, thinking out loud!!.. dont take it serious)

What im saying is THIS isn't going to be impossible to do but it's going to be diffficult!
I absolutely love this idea of having drift event/series and I see that everyone is excited to get on this train and see how far it rides out.

BUT
-There needs to compromise on all levels of the playing fields
-LOTS AND LOTS of leadership
-MUST be very professional (especially if there are going to be sponsors! don't want them to think their wasting their time and money!)
-ALL events must be consistant and organized
-Since no profit is being made charge a lil extra so we could use that money for PRIZES or as Prize money

(I could go on and rant more but i gotta get back to studying!!..lol ^_^
mybad if there are mistakes ill fix it later!
Hope this helps out!)

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Grenade180sx

id have to disagree on certain aspects.

REGARDLESS of skill levels, people who run TD are wanting to make a career out of drifting or have the goal of going pro.

How can grassroots guys afford a series,
SIMPLE
each event is held by SEPARATE organizers,but is ran as a series,

SO Inland drift would manage and maintain there facility for there round, then JD would manage and fund there round at Willow like i said everyone is hosting events now, it can be done, but with the mindset of only the good drivers will run certain series grassroots drifting will not progress any further.

-if its an 8 round series with 5-10k purse on the line what would make it not worth it? and obviously it wouldnt be held all in one week.

-tracks vary, thats like saying HTM doesnt compare in speed to irwindale because irwindale is faster, does that make HTM any less of a challenging track? NO.

point is the series can be done aslong as all partners/ organizers see eye to eye and it will keep drifting fun, but also open doors of many drivers who havent particpated in other socal drift events becuase of the "comfort zone" i am one of those people who havent ran a Top Drift event because ive never had the chance too, does that make me any less of a good driver??? No. and i can promise id do well in that series too.

If we all looked at this series as making the california scene even more tight knitt, then we can approach with the idea of benefitting all organizations.

so its the organizers call.

Mute

hmmm... D1 Underground Southern California Drift Cup ... D1U SCDC ... hmmmm...I kinda like it...and we do have sponsors that want us to do more with our Underground...maybe i should be talking to some people...

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UNITEDMASTER

Im not trying to be negative at all,but there is so much politics & BS when you try to work with certain organizations (NO NAMES). I think the handfull of upstart organizers should stick together/work together & try to make it happen if this is what you want. When is this sit down gonna happen I personally would rather speak in person. I have so much more to say I dont want to type it.


FLYBERT- May I ask what is your drift spirit, to go PRO, or do you drift for the fun. Im just curious

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SUPERSTAR

This all can work if you guys chose to do it.

8 rounds, 8 event hosts and some really sick prizes.

There will always be the yaaay and the naaayers in anything you do in life.

But I would like to see this happen, with an awesome ending.

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^^^^^ There it is!!!!!

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Flybert

I drift solely for fun. I just started my real career and I have no desire to make a career out of drifting. It requires too much money to do your first season and most pro drifters I know are broke. If a sponsor saw me drive and put me in a FD/D1GP car, flew me out to the events, and all I had to do was drive, I would consider going pro. Otherwise, it's not worth it to me.

SHARKERIOcoupe

this CAN happen.
when is the more serious dinner?
so the blueprints can come out

of coarse, EVERYONE is "already doing it, or has done it"

but if everyone does it together?
well. its come so close
what do you guys think is going on?
...they say politics, money, marketing...
so what can we do?

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DudeYourSoOOJDM

Not all of us. I'm perfectly fine driving TopDrift forever. The competition level will always be there whether it's People that are up and coming (Tommy, Matt and the gang) or people already Pro or who have been pro (Forrest, JTP, Henry).

To me running FD is just out of reach, I'd like to drive D1 this year but I've already missed the first 2 rounds.

I've come to the realization that doing practice days with people with High skill level is completely unrealistic besides doing All Star Bash. There's just too many events these days.

I'd love to have different competitions at different tracks, but even having a decent job/budget.....I just cant seem to make time to make it to any events besides TopDrift/ASB and the event's I've done for Naoki.

If all the organizers can get together, make events spaced out and not conflicting......Count me in!

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