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water · 10-12-2007, 01:01 PM

Yeah Martin from XAT took the 35r (.63 ar) on a 86.5mm built SR to 543whp and that was at what like 30psi iirc. I don't see how a 30r could compete.

steve shadows · 10-12-2007, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by water

Yeah Martin from XAT took the 35r (.63 ar) on a 86.5mm built SR to 543whp and that was at what like 30psi iirc. I don't see how a 30r could compete.

you can make 600whp on Dynojet (what Martin uses) at 30psi with a standalone and actual tuning done on the Dyno Dynamics Dyno.

That number was actually a little low imo, but great for ROM tune by far!

520whp has been done and can be done with .63 housing gt3076r on sr20det with stock compression and bore/stroke. Ive seen it done twice on FA on DJ read outs at like 25-26 psi of boost.

zellogg3 · 10-12-2007, 01:05 PM

my bad he said gt3082r

water · 10-12-2007, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve shadows

you can make 600whp on Dynojet (what Martin uses) at 30psi with a standalone and actual tuning done on the Dyno Dynamics Dyno.

That number was actually a little low imo, but great for ROM tune by far!

Yeah, I remember Trogdor on the Haltech. Similar mods, less boost, and more power. Just giving an idea that 600 on a 30r was a stretch to say the least.

water · 10-12-2007, 01:22 PM

Here we go. It was a 3040r (3082r), 26psi, and 539whp lol. Oldie but still a goodie. Not to mention a much more realistic perception of power.
http://www.rs-enthalpy.com/videos/Enthalpy-539.wmv

anyotherone · 10-12-2007, 02:54 PM

Just for reference, this is what I made with the following relevent mods:

PowerFC tuned by Cameron (me) at Matchless Performance
Stock block
JWT S1 cams / BC valvsprings and retainers
Greddy intake manifold
Full Race turbo manifold
GT2871r .86ar housing
Greddy turbo elbow - 3" downpipe - 3" exhaust (no cat)
precision intercooler
19psi (1.3bar) of boost

It reads 386.97whp, sorry the numbers are hard to make out because its obscured.

I think that your numbers are on par with your cams/intake/exhaust setup.

steve shadows · 10-12-2007, 03:03 PM

^ yes

oh and in ref to Enthalpy and the gt3040r Pull.

The gt3076r was basically the replacement for that turbo.

It spools up faster and makes the same output with proper tuning.

Just FYI.

I had a thread on FA called "gt3040r" and now its call "shadows project test car" or some stupid bs i had them re-name it while I was drunk.

anyways. GT3040R uses a T61 Compressor wheel with a gt30R turbine.

If you overclock the crap out of it I guess I could see it hitting 600 whp by the hairs of its ass but I would still like proof of this.

heychris · 10-12-2007, 06:36 PM

Seaking of Turbos...Have an opportunity to buy what this man says is a Garrett Turbo, T03/04 hybrid, pics come out fuzzy but he gave me the part and serial numbers....How can I find out if he's for real and if this turbo would work w my set up..FYI looked on the Garrett site already.
TIA
CH

codyace · 10-12-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve shadows

cody hes kind of right, 600 BHP is capable with the gt3076R.

Not with the 3071R

both are 30R though

Blah. Who cares about crank power this side of Import Rag (mags). NO 30r will ever hit 600 whp lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve shadows

622 is waaaaaay out there though. I had a problem with Baro on a dyno skewing my numbers, maybe "Glen" had the same problem with his numbers jet

Theoretically I could see high 500 whp ranges possible on high boost on a 2.2 liter SR on race gas. But that would be the absolute limit.

Exactly.

20 til 3 · 10-12-2007, 09:50 PM

alright dude... here you go, as mach5camaro posted... only he had some of the specs wrong... here is a 10.81 with a gt2871 .64

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h7YRw9TtoU[/ame]

specs
as for the mods under the hood I have cp 8.5-1 pistons, eagle rods, hks step 2 264 cams, greddy springs, triple cut stock valves, exidy lighten flywheel, act extreme 6puck, one piece alum drive shaft, balanced motor, arp head studs, cometic headgasket. 2871r duel ball bearing turbo 64 ar, megan racing manifold, stock intake manifold, greddy type r intercooler, 850 sard injectors, enthalpy ecu tune, safc to fine tune-havent needed to, zex 75 wetshot of spray, no name exhaust, tein superdrift suspension, 6pt sw-racing cage, sparco pro2000 seat, g-force 5pt seatbelt, 26x8.5 mt slicks, stock tranny, 7in touch screen dvd player for music.

NOT MY CAR, he is a friend... i copied all of this off of a local forum... i can get more info if you want it... pm me

s13rookie · 10-12-2007, 09:56 PM

Here is the dyno for INeedNewTires-The thread starter

INeedNewTires · 10-12-2007, 10:04 PM

so what do ya'll think about my dyno? wierd dip around 5k huh?

s13rookie · 10-12-2007, 10:06 PM

its pretty flat, ecspecially compared to the dyno posted a bit farther up the page. Looks like it would be a fun car

INeedNewTires · 10-14-2007, 05:37 PM

wow this thread sure died

EricDET · 10-28-2007, 03:24 AM

Sorry to drag this thread back out... But I'm interested in the extrude honing mentioned by codyace and was wondering if I could get some info about it or where you had it done...etc.

jobestudios · 10-28-2007, 10:42 AM

Hmmmm... stock extrude honed or tomei expreme...

EricDET · 10-28-2007, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jobestudios

Hmmmm... stock extrude honed or tomei expreme...

I can't see spending $700+ on a bottom mount manifold I already have....
I'm thinking about getting the stock manifold and my turbo housing extrude honed and swain coated. The swain coating prices aren't bad at all but I don't know anything about the honing deal.

codyace · 10-28-2007, 10:28 PM

Extrude Hone and Swain coat the stock manifold is a no brainer.

www.extrudehone.com
www.swaintech.com

You're going to have a stronger, and better manifold in the end. For the 5-10 hp you loose, is worth retaining the extra 10-15 ft lbs, and quick spool of the stocker. Plus, no worries about ever cracking or etc etc.

McRussellPants · 10-29-2007, 12:01 AM

The OPs car moves just fine.

Peak Torque at 3750 and a 250ftlbs crossover at 3400 makes for a pretty nifty usable powerband. Seemed kinda sluggish transient response wise but I didn't drive it so I wouldnt really know. I wouldn't mess with anything besides getting a differential, and thats a different thread.

codyace · 10-30-2007, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McRussellPants

The OPs car moves just fine.

Peak Torque at 3750 and a 250ftlbs crossover at 3400 makes for a pretty nifty usable powerband. Seemed kinda sluggish transient response wise but I didn't drive it so I wouldnt really know. I wouldn't mess with anything besides getting a differential, and thats a different thread.

Oh no, can't be true. It's not making 500 billion HP and 100 ft lbs of torque at 30 psi, how can that be fun??

Good to hear. The 2871r .64 and the 28RS are SUUUUUUCHHHH fun fun fun turbo for a street car.

10-12-2007, 03:03 PM	#67
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	^ yes oh and in ref to Enthalpy and the gt3040r Pull. The gt3076r was basically the replacement for that turbo. It spools up faster and makes the same output with proper tuning. Just FYI. I had a thread on FA called "gt3040r" and now its call "shadows project test car" or some stupid bs i had them re-name it while I was drunk. anyways. GT3040R uses a T61 Compressor wheel with a gt30R turbine. If you overclock the crap out of it I guess I could see it hitting 600 whp by the hairs of its ass but I would still like proof of this. __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

10-12-2007, 09:56 PM	#71
s13rookie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: connecticut Age: 40 Posts: 1,129 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here is the dyno for INeedNewTires-The thread starter __________________ Ive spent most of my money on cars and women...the rest i wasted

10-12-2007, 10:04 PM	#72
INeedNewTires Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,527 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: INeedNewTires Feedback Score: 4 reviews	so what do ya'll think about my dyno? wierd dip around 5k huh? __________________

10-12-2007, 10:06 PM	#73
s13rookie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: connecticut Age: 40 Posts: 1,129 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its pretty flat, ecspecially compared to the dyno posted a bit farther up the page. Looks like it would be a fun car __________________ Ive spent most of my money on cars and women...the rest i wasted

10-14-2007, 05:37 PM	#74
INeedNewTires Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,527 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: INeedNewTires Feedback Score: 4 reviews	wow this thread sure died __________________

10-12-2007, 01:01 PM	#61
water Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: FL Age: 41 Posts: 373 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah Martin from XAT took the 35r (.63 ar) on a 86.5mm built SR to 543whp and that was at what like 30psi iirc. I don't see how a 30r could compete.

10-12-2007, 01:05 PM	#63
zellogg3 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: florida Posts: 65 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	my bad he said gt3082r

10-12-2007, 01:22 PM	#65
water Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: FL Age: 41 Posts: 373 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here we go. It was a 3040r (3082r), 26psi, and 539whp lol. Oldie but still a goodie. Not to mention a much more realistic perception of power. http://www.rs-enthalpy.com/videos/Enthalpy-539.wmv

10-12-2007, 02:54 PM	#66
anyotherone Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 330 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: anyotherone Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Just for reference, this is what I made with the following relevent mods: PowerFC tuned by Cameron (me) at Matchless Performance Stock block JWT S1 cams / BC valvsprings and retainers Greddy intake manifold Full Race turbo manifold GT2871r .86ar housing Greddy turbo elbow - 3" downpipe - 3" exhaust (no cat) precision intercooler 19psi (1.3bar) of boost It reads 386.97whp, sorry the numbers are hard to make out because its obscured. I think that your numbers are on par with your cams/intake/exhaust setup.

10-12-2007, 06:36 PM	#68
heychris Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SkiTown USA Posts: 754 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Seaking of Turbos...Have an opportunity to buy what this man says is a Garrett Turbo, T03/04 hybrid, pics come out fuzzy but he gave me the part and serial numbers....How can I find out if he's for real and if this turbo would work w my set up..FYI looked on the Garrett site already. TIA CH

10-12-2007, 09:50 PM	#70
20 til 3 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sioux falls SD Age: 33 Posts: 661 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	alright dude... here you go, as mach5camaro posted... only he had some of the specs wrong... here is a 10.81 with a gt2871 .64 [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h7YRw9TtoU[/ame] specs as for the mods under the hood I have cp 8.5-1 pistons, eagle rods, hks step 2 264 cams, greddy springs, triple cut stock valves, exidy lighten flywheel, act extreme 6puck, one piece alum drive shaft, balanced motor, arp head studs, cometic headgasket. 2871r duel ball bearing turbo 64 ar, megan racing manifold, stock intake manifold, greddy type r intercooler, 850 sard injectors, enthalpy ecu tune, safc to fine tune-havent needed to, zex 75 wetshot of spray, no name exhaust, tein superdrift suspension, 6pt sw-racing cage, sparco pro2000 seat, g-force 5pt seatbelt, 26x8.5 mt slicks, stock tranny, 7in touch screen dvd player for music. NOT MY CAR, he is a friend... i copied all of this off of a local forum... i can get more info if you want it... pm me

10-28-2007, 03:24 AM	#75
EricDET Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NKY Age: 37 Posts: 109 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry to drag this thread back out... But I'm interested in the extrude honing mentioned by codyace and was wondering if I could get some info about it or where you had it done...etc.

10-28-2007, 10:42 AM	#76
jobestudios Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bellingham Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hmmmm... stock extrude honed or tomei expreme... __________________ -Jackson.Vaughn.Photography-

10-28-2007, 10:28 PM	#78
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 36 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	Extrude Hone and Swain coat the stock manifold is a no brainer. www.extrudehone.com www.swaintech.com You're going to have a stronger, and better manifold in the end. For the 5-10 hp you loose, is worth retaining the extra 10-15 ft lbs, and quick spool of the stocker. Plus, no worries about ever cracking or etc etc. __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

10-29-2007, 12:01 AM	#79
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The OPs car moves just fine. Peak Torque at 3750 and a 250ftlbs crossover at 3400 makes for a pretty nifty usable powerband. Seemed kinda sluggish transient response wise but I didn't drive it so I wouldnt really know. I wouldn't mess with anything besides getting a differential, and thats a different thread.

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