Brentbohn

LOW BALLERS NEED NOT APPLY.

I was disgusted in the reflection of values on kbb.com when it came to all 240sx's on there... this does a few negative things for our community at large. First it sets the idea that insurance can pay out less in the event of an accident, secondly it allows non owners to low ball your cars price before you even put it up for sale. Lastly it forces would be sellers to accept even less for their hard work.

I propose that we as a community go to kbb.com and click on contact. Submit a complaint on actual private party value of your car and what it should be...

I have already done this multiple times and have got generic responses....

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TeamFRAT

People still use KBB as a standard of haggling?


ha...

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godrifttoday

Waste of time. Should have bought a Porsche, if you get in an accident hire a lawyer. Simple

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Brentbohn

Well this did happen to the 3000gt/stealth communities in the past 4 years they saw more than a 50% value drop from what I have heard.... Things do decline in value but it would seem that our pride has taken an unjust hit in the past few years... kouki's for 3k and s13's for less than 1k seems really terrible unless your the one purchasing it... lets try

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DrftKingIII

My late 90's nissan is worth a fortune.

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Audios

lol QFT, they are priced accordingly they wouldn't be so rare if so many idiots didn't drift them into walls. Its an old ass nissan and nothing more.

shiftdrift

I only paid 3k for my Kouki? So......stop crying.

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shoguner

beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


Someone might think a 240 is worth its weight in gold. but all in all its just a 20 year old pile of metal.

enkei2k

so where's this almighty 'petition' you speak of?

also, how much do you expect 14+ year old cars to cost? The S-chassis is no high end car like mentioned earlier.

KBB for a 98 Supra TT in 'excellent' condition from a private seller is less than $20K. Find me one that's in excellent condition selling for that price.

KBB doesn't give a shit about supply and demand and other variable factors like drift tax.

The older the car, the lower the KBB value. I think it's what they call...depreciation?

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epson1

You're fucking stupid. 98 supra booking for less than 20? they book for 39,000 in good condition with 55,000 miles. that sounds about right. go KBB it right now and come back and complain. Waaaa my 1990 nissan hatchback books for 1500$. yeah that sounds about right. KBB isn't going to take into account for mad tyte JDM Aero or -52 offset wheels you moron.

DustinSixOh9

Wait you mean to tell me my 20 year old economy car isn't worth $10,000?! Bummer.

Chronicle

Exactly. The biggest problem with someone looking to enter the S-chassis world is how SO many people put unnecessary "drift taxes" on cars. The first 240 I looked at was an S13. It was a 91 coupe 5 speed with 120k miles. It suffered shit tons of dents and paint scratches. The clutch, brakes and starter didn't work, and they wanted $1500 for it. The second car I looked at (and bought) was a 96 Zenki 5 speed. 261k, (original engine and trans) Clean interior, the only problems were all four tires were bald, the rear shocks were completely blown, and the paint was fading. $1450 and I drove it home 120 miles away.

Moral of the story? Going sideways doesn't cost much to do, and cars capable of doing so don't deserve a premium.

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S141S

kbb obv doesn't give a fuck about mods either.

chwks13

Wahh wahh. Buy a vehicle actually worth something. The reality of it is s13's are 20 years old and not exactly rare.

raz0rbladez909

If it isn't a collectors car it's not going to appreciate, if you were looking for an investment you should've bought something older and less build numbers on them. 240's are cheap for a reason, they aren't very spectacular to anyone but the people interested in them.

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Brentbohn

my 98 kouki is one of 1281 total produced.... that is rare

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SimpleS14

I believe with the cheap prices we see for the G35 and 350Z, it's very laughable to see a 240SX going for +$7K.

True, but not a collector's item. You won't see someone overseas placing a bid for one 15 years from now. Just sayin..

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kalypso123

honestly, I wouldnt stress over it.

I don't plan on getting into accidents, I drive like a sane human being.

slowvia

No one plans on getting in an accident. I drive like a sane human being, but that didnt help last month when I got rear ended at a dead stop.

wonpoo

only reason people complain about the value is because they wanna resell it at ta higher value then what is established as normal purchasing price after the car is driven off the lot after it was made 20 years ago.

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raz0rbladez909

It was still sold at the same pricepoint as every other year of 240sx, it isn't any better than any other year.

TRUTH

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drift freaq

KBB is off on lots of cars. its not just 240's. Seriously the only thing KBB has ever been good for is a bargaining chip on purchasing. In that sense you don't want it to rise.

Oh and most insurance companies do things based on ACV these days. Which is a combination of what the cars sell for real market value and cost of actual replacement parts to fix.

I collected $2700 out of my previous 93.5 G20 when it got wrecked and the blue book on those things is in the trash can.

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wonpoo

i want prices to stay low i seen automatic S14's try to sell for $8000 local that is bullshit!

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deathrace2000

Value systems are foolish. An automobile is worth only what someone will pay for it.

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Brentbohn

you all are missing the point... kbb is potentially going to cost you money down the road.... for some retarded reason all dealerships and potential buyers look at that site to gauge their offers

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RandallSharp

What if we just all love our cars so much that we're not considering selling them?

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xoxide

Actually most dealerships use nada.com now. Kbb is outdated.

fckillerbee

KBB doesn't buy cars. Nor do they sell cars. They are a reference guide. Almost like looking on ebay to find out how much your car is worth.

awesome thread.

BOROSUN

Just wait 40 yrs then sell it. It better be worth more than a ft86 or I'm gonna be pissed.

andrew600

best thread ive seen in days. i vote my car is worth 4 cows, 2 goats, 5 chickens, and a toothless whore for hummers whenever i want.

if this option is on there i will sign the pet.