drifting_changed_mylife

so i saw this movie over the weekend and it was pretty good. did anyone else see it? and if so, what did u guys think?

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ThatGuy

Fuck anything and everything Michael Moore does. His fabricated "documentaries" are the lowest forms of propaganda. He makes money off of reinforcing your fears. He falsified info in "Bowling For Columbine", he falsified info in "Fahrenheit 911", I'm sure this is just more of the same. If he hates America, or the way things are done here, he can leave whenever he feels like it. But he doesn't. He stays his fat ass in Hollywood, making money off the weak minded individuals who buy into his bullshit. Do his movies present some ACTUAL facts and problems with this country? Certainly. But he wraps them up in bullshit and lies to make them more "entertaining" and make a dollar.

Yet, you accuse me of being brain washed.

In other words.. No, I have not seen it, nor do I ever plan to give his fat ass a single dollar at any point in my life.


This thread will not end well.

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Farzam

The OP must be one of the dumbest people ever.

Maybe that's why I like neg repping him.

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steve shadows

I love people who rock the soviet symbol...

That would be like me rocking a swastica, ok maybe not that bad, but to some people thats what it represents.

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Ian

he's a fucking slob...smart guy though



i enjoyed farenheit 911 because i don't like george bush


but that's about it


people who buy into his bullshit are fucking idiots

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Phlip

I find Michael Moore entertaining on an "entertainment" level, but I prefer to draw my own conclusions about most things, without having to be fed it by someone with ulterior motives...
I don't need coaching to know how shittily things are being run, nor should anyone with a brain capable of real thought. Some people NEED Michael Moore and his shit, I find it only optional.

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drifting_changed_mylife

how did this become a tread about me?!? lol

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Phlip

No, it was a thread about Michael Moore's movie and an conversation about how we feel about it, or him in cases where we have (or will) not seen the movie

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sr20steve

God that is a dugusting man....

bamaboy

because you are a fucking idiot who has no respect for anything and you believe some social misfits idiotic views on behind the scenes political topics

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LongGrain

whats the new movie about?

BustedS13

michael moore cashes in on tragedy. he sensationalizes and fabricates to draw crowds.

he appeals to the lowest common denominator. that's why you get highschool shitheads talking about how awesome his movies are.

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bamaboy

to the OP, you realize your shitty little rep has no effect on me right. try suicide, I heard it's a rush

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kdashy

I downloaded it.

I enjoyed it.

I don't take it seriously though.

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drifting_changed_mylife

LOL your so cool with all ur little green dots one day i hope to be just like you get a life dude

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SimpleSexy180

ill probably check it out.

bamaboy

I'm glad you figured out I base my life on little green dots on zilvia, I was hoping someone would notice before I ended it all.

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tknbkthrsdy4anfg

I heard that tool set up outside Kaiser Permanente's (The HMO I belong to) head offices in Oakland, CA and projected his movie on the side of the building.

But his sound system didnt work.

FAIL!

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Phlip

Perhaps I am just as guilty here, but can I ask everyone to please stick to the topic, Grimmace's new movie?

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steve shadows

Then sell your car, your promoting commercialism by modifying it.

Your not even close to a real socialist.




in referrence to the OP

I saw Glen Beck interview Micheal Moore on this movie and he said that he trust the Government with his money more than big business. The government has been very efficent in managing social security checks for his ailing grandmother so why not give them control of Health Care...

is he fukcing retarded?

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You can't claim to be socialist unless you've made 100k in a year and paid taxes on it. Till then you're just playing.

This movie is a terribly one sided movie even from the socialist view. The only attempt at explanation of the cost associated with this FREE coverage and how much medical guys get paid in this new gov't owned healthcare was a doc who owned a house and made payments on an audi. That was considered "successful" in france, that, I guess, he had that much disposable income. House and car = success. I must be ballin because I've got a house and 2 cars all without 8 years of med school. If the cost of healthcare is so finite as the film states then it should be a flat tax on everyone and never a percentage of income. Just say rich or poor, everyone is going to come up with 3k a year for FREE health care. Of course then you couldn't label it FREE like he repeats no less than 30 times. It's not FREE if it involves a 15% income tax. That might be ok for joe the construction worker who makes 30k a year. That's only 4.5k in lost income. Fair trade for FREE healthcare. What about people who run successful businesses and make 250k a year. 37.5k doesn't sound as good of a bargain. Especially when he shelled out a previous 37.5k for social security. A guy who makes 250k a year gets to spend 70k for FREE! health care and a promise that when he turns 67 he'll get maybe 900 a month. WOW. Sign me up!! God forbid he dies before then while chugging a cigar and driving his big yacht because surprise. Yes uncle sam wins and gets to keep all of it!! JACKPOT! To bad michael more didn't do a film on social security and the scam that it is. Healthcare atleast has to give you something for your money.

BTW. I spend 425 a month on insurance because I have a heart condition. It's cheap compared to a trip to the ER or surgery. When I sit down at the beginning of the month, I make sure I have it covered or I work extra. If people spent half the time trying to figure out ways to make money instead of save it. Everyone would be alot richer.

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Michael Moore is so full of shit in a whole new way, that it actually shows in his weight. lol

He completely lies, and makes up "statistics" His Bowling for Colombine movie was so full of them. I've lived in Canada and the US, and frankly most of his "stats" about the lower crime rate in Canada are pure BS. Yes, there are less guns in Canada, but the amount of violent crime per capita is actually higher then the US.

Don't even get me started on Fahrenheit 911.

This new movie is no different. Michael Moore just has an axe to grind with ANYONE who is even remotely to the right of center, a capitalist, and/or doesn't agree completely with his, so called, facts.

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s13rookie

The reason his movies are so succesful is simple: too many americans are becoming lazy and want people to think for them. They dont want to spend hours reading the paper or watching the news. Thats too much work, its easier to pay $10 for a movie ticket and stare at a screen for 2 hours. Thats a reason why the nightly news spends more time talking about britney spears new haircut than they do about the war we are in.

I havent seen any of moore's movies, and i dont plan on it. I have read and heard enough about them to know that i dont need someone else thinking for me.

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Farzam

Socialism isn't that bad IMO...

This OP needs to REALLY get off this forum.

What really bites ass is tax breaks. I wouldn't mind a really high sales tax if they obliterated income taxes and such. Then the people who make bank and buy yachts pay up and then broke people who are broke and people have to save their money and shti.

Sure it wouldn't work but I could imagine.

Edit: Yes I posted this just to see what someone could say to disbar the idea. I just want another view on it.

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ugggg I swear zilvia is right wing lol. Michael Moore is very smart and does make a very good argument about things in all of his movies. Yes he manipulates some statistics I'm sure but just about every statistic about everything is manipulated. The fact of the matter is we live under a government and an administration that manipulates information all the time, yet it seems like every one here is content to swallow that down but when some guy makes a movie and presesnts statistics that are slightly skewed you call him a liar. Statistics about absolutely everything are skewed to make the side that is making its case seem like it has the correct point of view. In this country we are fed skewed statisics about drugs, crime, poverty...you name it and politicians lie all the time. Even in this current war there is no clear estimate on how many deaths have occured in Iraq, the US govt says one number while Iraqi hostpitals are claiming it to be much higher etc. The fact is that Michael more is making movies focusing on issues that are wrong in our country that very often go unnoticed...and I am very thankful that he brings these things to light. Now....the problem is that people assume that he is presenting an unbiased argument, but he never even states that his arguments are unbiased. Moore does not say this is the gospel truth and that his side is 100% correct with no political bias, he makes his argument that is clearly a biased one and manipulates certain facts to support his argument. Theres nothing wrong with what he does because once again the US govt and many other news outlets etc do it every day with a much bigger budget and audience....if michael moore is a bias asshole then FOX news should be off the air, along with don Imas and o'Riely and all those other dipshits. Moore always presents and interesting case, that is for the most part true, then people nit pick apart the facts, find a couple that are wrong or partially true and call him a liar....all those who feel this way I challenge you to listen to one speech by bush and then check the facts against what he said and get back to me. You should never let someone make up your mind for you, dont take what you see in moore's movies to be the gospel truth because he never even claims it to be; and dont take what the government says to be gospel because it may be false as well, instead listen to both arguments, go to the library or sit online do your own research and make up your own mind


come on zilvians...come to the liberal side......we have cake and punch over here

s13rookie

it wouldnt happen due to the fact that the same people buying yachts and making bank are the same people that make the tax laws

We dont need higher taxes, we need more responsible gov'mt spending, and im not talking about decreasing military or anything "tree hugger-ish". Shit like $400 screwdrivers has got to end.............but save that for another thread.

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Wahl 136

If I remember correctly, Michael Moore had to go in front of a govt. comittee because he took 9/11 workers who were sick to Cuba for medical treatment and his paperwork didn't cover the time he was there or allow him to travel for medical.

I don't recall exactly what happend, but I do know he was in a good amount of trouble for it. Does anyone else remember reading that?