Originally Posted by usdm180sx

Wow. Denise is a good friend of mine. Good people. I've known her for years. She actually messaged me on fb because she was so upset. Here's our convo, she gave me permission to post it:

Denise Llamas
Kuya Norm!!!!

34 minutes agoDenise Llamas
i need your help


34 minutes agoNorman Carpio
Hi Denise how you do? How can I help you?

34 minutes agoDenise Llamas
some customer is complaining about us
and he wont pay the rest of his amount

33 minutes agoNorman Carpio
oh ok

33 minutes agoDenise Llamas
but the things he's complaining about, he didnt even ask us to work on it
it came that way
and some of the other stuff he's complaining about, he asked us to do it like that
and whenever you try to be stern with him and talk to him like an adult, this kid takes it as harassment
http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/46857...recommend.html
what should i do?

32 minutes agoNorman Carpio
did he sign anything? did u take any "before pics?

32 minutes agoDenise Llamas
yes i did
he signed a contract that he agrees to pay
AND
he signed a contract that he would be responsible to inspect the car before he takes it

31 minutes agoNorman Carpio
did u document everything that would be done and not done? and any pre existing conditions on the car?

31 minutes agoDenise Llamas
yes
i have all these

30 minutes agoNorman Carpio
you should be covered then

30 minutes agoDenise Llamas
papers
yes but look at what he's spreading on zilvia

30 minutes agoNorman Carpio
let me read it

30 minutes agoDenise Llamas
he was expecting us to warranty his engine
but neither built it not installed it
why would we warranty that
he wanted us to warranty a tube front end
that's an offroad product. who does that?

28 minutes agoNorman Carpio
wow. why did the car catch fire?
or did it?
okay i posted in the thread. let's see what he says
just sit tight for now

23 minutes agoDenise Llamas
i'm not sure what happened. Dk told me that when he was welding the tube, one of the sparks landed on a wire and made it catch on fire. So he put it out right away.
Dk said he fixed it.
That moses guy was rude and arrogant right from the start.

22 minutes agoNorman Carpio
ah ok so it wasn't a big fire then

21 minutes agoDenise Llamas
no, it was a small fire. a fire that Dk took care of. it just so happened that Moses was there when it happened

21 minutes agoNorman Carpio
ah ok

21 minutes agoDenise Llamas
and for people who dont know about working on cars, im sure they would freak out about that

21 minutes agoNorman Carpio
he didn't even post what he was having done to the car. what was he having done?

20 minutes agoDenise Llamas
tub and half tub front end, but we needed to have the frame pulled because he crashed pretty badly.
he claims someone hit him
then why was it a major FRONT end collision?
and the way it looked, it looked like he crashed into a pole or something

19 minutes agoNorman Carpio
you have pictures?
ok
was the car as janky in the pics when he brought it in?

17 minutes agoDenise Llamas
yes
that's EXACTLY they it was when he brought it in

17 minutes agoNorman Carpio
lmao ok

17 minutes agoDenise Llamas
you could see the wires hanging out from the outside of the car

15 minutes agoNorman Carpio
so he expected you guys to work a miracle on it and make it look new in addition to what you were paid to do and when the stuff he DIDN'T pay you to work on looked the same he was all butthurt
did he talk shit to you guys? he says he was being insulted

14 minutes agoDenise Llamas
yes, he constantly did

14 minutes agoNorman Carpio
and all you were supposed to do is the tub thing and relocate fusebox?

13 minutes agoDenise Llamas
yes
we weren't supposed to touch the engine at all
or any major harness work, that's some time consuming stuff

13 minutes agoNorman Carpio
relocate fusebox does not equal complete wiring job lol

13 minutes agoDenise Llamas
when I spoke to him like an adult, he would quiet up. i would talk to him like i would to another adult at my job when we're having a heated discussion
Norm, I'm educated. I know how to bring concerns about something and not have to resort to petty cussing and childish behavior

12 minutes agoNorman Carpio
i know you are

12 minutes agoDenise Llamas
I was the one who was talking to him and the kid is crying because an adult actually tried to talk to him how he needs to be spoken to

11 minutes agoNorman Carpio
so he was being very insulting and unreasonable?
did anyone there start insulting him or was it only after he did it
i think you're in the clear
from what you told me

7 minutes agoDenise Llamas
the one time i blew up at him
was AFTER he insulted us
and told us he wasn't paying us any money

6 minutes agoNorman Carpio
ok so you reacted to him

6 minutes agoDenise Llamas
yes
he even just hung up on me

Originally Posted by Sideways Insomniacs

All I do is laugh at you who are you it is funny how people add there input on something they know nothing about like I said I have no reason to lie..

Originally Posted by PhilipJdm

First GL wasnt opened for more than a year so the Subaru story is pretty much BS


Also your car was already fucked up i've seen it, if you wanted someone to fix your car how you say you wanted it complaining about the radiator support and what not. Should of taken your car to a body to fix that part of your argument. It helps to be specific on what you want to be done too.

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

If this kids name is moses, he is not to be trusted or taken seriously. Ive seen his posts on fb and other places, he is a dumbass. His friends are nooo better either. I hope other garage life customers chime in with real experience with the shop.

Originally Posted by PhilipJdm

First GL wasnt opened for more than a year so the Subaru story is pretty much BS


Also your car was already fucked up i've seen it, if you wanted someone to fix your car how you say you wanted it complaining about the radiator support and what not. Should of taken your car to a body to fix that part of your argument. It helps to be specific on what you want to be done too.

Originally Posted by Sideways Insomniacs

Hahahaha the funny part is she completely left out the majority of what really happened.. She forgets tha Jesse completely cussed me out with ignorant non sense she herself called me cussing me out reason why she got Hung up on. I was not asking for a warranty on the motor they did not swap tha sounds foolish what I was asking for was a warranty on the bash bar set up they build on the electrical disaster the created they claim that's how it was when they got it they didn't do anything well how is it possible to wire a push start without messing with the wires how to you wire and fans why did my car catch on fire the day before I picked it up. Of course she will tell you her side of the story they way to make them seen as the victim of course I have brian tell me one price then I have will tell me another then Denise tells me another the have m 4 different times my car would be done everything I go nothing was done. Of course. Customer would be upset and complain. She claims I'm telling hem to do things I didn't ask for makes no sense I understand she is your good friend but until you know both sides can't make a judgement I admit at times I did raise my voice and have a temper but that is after being harrassed by them she says she tries talkin like an adult I have people as witnesses to them very abusing me. A he end of the day the work done on my car is shit it's not even what they said what they were going to do so people please before you start assuming you know how things will go cause you know the person doesn't mean it will be the same for everyone else

Originally Posted by Sideways Insomniacs

According to amplified motorsports that Subbie story is true they are the one that told me about it after I took my car there.. And actually they has been up for more than a year maybe not at there new location but def have been going on

Originally Posted by usdm180sx

So all that janky shit you were complaining about was already there. And you insulted them and refuse to pay them because they didnt fix it.

Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

Man, it's hard reading your damn english. Did you finish high school? Holy crap... your grammar effin sucks FOO vato esse.

Originally Posted by Sideways Insomniacs

This is not high school I didn't know I was being tested on my grammar and punctuation.

Originally Posted by Sideways Insomniacs

Actually I put no ones name out there yes my name is Moses Udo I have nothing to hide I have tons of people who seem my car before it went in and seen my car in its current state. Sho all the post trying to defend GL to me is pointless..

Originally Posted by Sideways Insomniacs

Actually I put no ones name out there yes my name is Moses Udo I have nothing to hide I have tons of people who seem my car before it went in and seen my car in its current state. Sho all the post trying to defend GL to me is pointless..

Originally Posted by TC2SR

Yea, this is Moses Udo, "head" of the supposed drift team, Sideways Insomanics. There's a reason he didnt put his name out there but he was ready to slander other people's names. Let the people judge for themselves...though if they know you moses, im pretty sure they already know what kind of person you are and how you deal.

Originally Posted by Nismo240driftSX

Anyone else see him ignoring my question and arguing with everyone else? I asked what your name is. Because if your name is indeed Moses, you already have a bad rep. And nobody gives a shit about what you have to say. Cool story bro.

Originally Posted by TC2SR

you have everything to gain when you lie. Youre trying to ruin a good shop's rep, trying to get sympathy for your own stupidity, putting blame on someone else when it was your own fucking fault b/c ur car was messed up, and to try to salvage a horrible reputation you have made for youself. I know for a fact that you crashed your car months ago in a residential area b/c you were speeding down a residential area and you HIT AN OLD LADY that was pulling out. You were hauling ass and driving w/o a license b/c you got a DUI when you got into that accident. Stop trying to cover up your own stupidity by blaming other people. Your car was already messed up like that before you even sent it to GL. Numerous people have seen your car like that b/c you were so arrogant about your car, that you showed it off to everyone you could, despite not even know anything about what you had or how to work/maintain it.

Originally Posted by Sideways Insomniacs

For someone who knows nothing of wha my car was like before it went here you have no room to talk. Only issue my car had was the front end damage.. Them cutting everything off and having nowhere to put my wiring is there fault before I took my car in I had my car legit wire tucked non of those wire you see where there sitting like that. Even simple matter of he fact of you knew the wiring was fucked and things were in poor condition as a shop why would you release the car?

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

If this kids name is moses, he is not to be trusted or taken seriously. Ive seen his posts on fb and other places, he is a dumbass. His friends are nooo better either. I hope other garage life customers chime in with real experience with the shop.

Originally Posted by charlie321

Not sure about Garage Life's work, but the owner DK still owes me $200, it's been well over a year.

Originally Posted by charlie321

Not sure about Garage Life's work, but the owner DK still owes me $200, it's been well over a year.