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gh6o6 · 06-03-2002, 06:36 PM

well there is such controversy i really would like to know what you people think
i guess you want to know what i think too?
well i look at the car and evaluate the looks, engine, drivetrain, and suspension charateristics and make a decision on that - its also important to consider what the purpose of the car is and its reliability. I have been know to make fun of a civic because to me they arent built for proformance (minus the si) but people make it out like its god. it has its good points and its bad ill never make fun of a stock civic thats driven by a person who isent trying to be the fastest/coolest thing since sliced bread. show me a fast civic without the decal or "look at me i have the loudest buzzing exaust ever" and ill respect it
suvs are a hole different story- i mean you not off roading on a highway nor will most people EVER take there car off road. most people driving suvs are in them alone or with a couple of people (what the hell is the capacity of an excursion - like 80 people - whens the last time you saw one of them full?) they are all over the road and waste so much gas - the only thing i really like about them it there capabilities when used for there purpose.  

hope i have helped and that i can lean from your opinions

*SaintlyCharBoy* · 06-03-2002, 06:45 PM

not to be a PITA, but i don't think that i can honestly say that i hate any cars

i will however say that some [cough]kias[/cough] are downright silly, and that i think that some people do stupid hideous things to them

i personally think that every vehicle, alpha to yugo and everywhere in between has a niche, even if it is jusst as cheap transportation

shit even my old camry wagon was fun at times lets just say that each body lowers the top speed about 10-15 mph, and it has held up to 17 (very uncomfortably i might add, and only for 3 miles)

a quote from chickenmanq -remember him?- from "an old guy"
"never hate in the plural"

[edit] i know that everything is a trade off, i bought my s14 because it is relatively comfortable, has a nice fat torque range, is f/r, handles well stock, and is both economical and reliable, a pretty well rounded beastie for pretty cheap money[/edit]

wa-fu · 06-03-2002, 07:18 PM

I hate cars that belch smoke, mini-vans with a sticker of a soccer ball, and Ford Excursion/Expedition/Explorer things.  Also hate the token Yugo/Kia/Geo that flies down the interstate at 85 MPH on three little tires and one smaller spare.

*ca18guy* · 06-03-2002, 07:30 PM

I don't hate any car. Do I make fun of some in a sterotypical manner? Yes. Would I mind owning one of the car's I make fun of? No not really. If I was'nt a Nissan Nazi I'd sport around in a Civic or Stang.  It's when the OWNER of the car makes his car out to be something that it isn't that you start hearing people "hate a car" or when a car is put on a pedestal (like the mustang is the ULTIMATE sports car or the Civic is the epitome of import performance) that people have to rag on the car so they can feel better, cause everyone wants to think there personal choice in cars is the best. I think all those factor in "hating a car"

wherezmytofu · 06-03-2002, 08:22 PM

hate the owner....not the car...the car can control what the owner does  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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onebadm5 · 06-04-2002, 01:35 AM

i dont hate cars, its the owners i cant stand.

take today for example. s15dude and i were cruising around, picking up some stuff for work. at a stop light, i glanced at a red roadster a few lanes over with historical auto plate. turned out to be a brick red MG T. Being an enthusiast above all, i looked over his car, and threw him the nod. he replied with a thumbsup and drove off.

THEN, we drove by an EG6 Civic hatch. the dude had a carbon fiber hood and some other mods. As soon as he saw us looking at him, both he and his passenger threw us the bird! WTF?!?!?!?!?! Where does he get off flicking us off? Oh well, i guess ignorance is bliss, for ricers at least...

boosteds14 · 06-04-2002, 11:39 AM

honestly, i only like hookup modified cars that are high hp or runs really fast in the quarter. for an example, i like a honda integra that runs 11's and a dually diesal truck that runs 13's

tnord · 06-04-2002, 11:58 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ June 05 2002,11:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">honestly, i only like hookup modified cars that are high hp or runs really fast in the quarter. for an example, i like a honda integra that runs 11's and a dually diesal truck that runs 13's</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
honestly.......those are the cars i hate.

cars built to only go fast in a straight line are the ones i can't stand. hence why i despise the camaro and firebird, but respect the Z06. i also don't particularly like lamborghini's.

but to each his own, right boosted?

BlackFox · 06-08-2002, 02:28 AM

cars have to look asthetically pleasing, like 240's

Case in point of a jacked up design: Toyota Echo (toyota makes good cars but they messed up this design  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> )

*transient* · 06-08-2002, 08:55 PM

A nice car is a nice car, no matter what company made it. I don't like FF cars at all, and will never own one as my daily driver, but I'm not going to say that a 400HP civic is a piece of shit.

boosteds14 · 06-12-2002, 12:12 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">honestly.......those are the cars i hate.

cars built to only go fast in a straight line are the ones i can't stand. hence why i despise the camaro and firebird, but respect the Z06. i also don't particularly like lamborghini's.

but to each his own, right boosted?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

right, we all have our own ways with there car. i grew up with a racing background from Motorcross racing since i was 6yrs old and watching my uncle drag race his Chevy Nova. dont get me wrong but i love open wheel racing too. i regularly go to lime rock park to watch racing  and kart  racing. i just love racing in general. it could be from racing your brother to the school bus or playing Gran Turismo. but since  my friends and family are more into motor performance and drag racing, i made my car for HP  rather than handling. it really depends on what u are introduced to first or what your idea of racing should be.

SimpleS14 · 06-13-2002, 02:51 PM

I only hate cars that are heavily modded and are not pleasing to the eye.  I really like cars that have good body lines in its stock form and look much better with some mods.  The '97 240SX and '96 Supra would be a good examples of that.

nrcooled · 06-14-2002, 11:50 AM

I am a lover of all that drives  From a '96 chevy impala or a '69 camaro or maybe a...let me see Skyline (any '92 up)

Whatever it is I love it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  My other car is a Ford Focus I have no desire to make 300hp w/ it or make it a auto-x beast Why you ask because that's not what it was made for my 240 was so that is what I want to make hp w/.  I respect a 300hp civic as much as the next man but those that have the goals and no skill bug me and the few that decide that a 9 ft tall carbon fiber wing would look good on their Lancer (there is one around my area) w/ no other mods than a bolt on muffler gets no love my friend.  And if he revs he POS at again I will get out of my 240 and proceed to urinate all over that God forsaken bookshelf on his trunk <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

240Dori · 08-27-2002, 05:02 PM

I cant vote on this one.  The way i decide on a car is if it is a good balance between power and handleing.  Cars that are super powered but handle like shit, suck.  also the potential of a car plays alot into my opinion, for example a car that is all tuned and you cant do shit to out of the box, also sucks.

dannhctc · 09-03-2002, 09:15 AM

Granted that people do stupid things to cars that I would like had it remained stock (or tasteful).  But there are a few cars I have a problem with from the get-go.  Personally I dislike any car that was designed around sales rather than performance/safety.  And when I say sales, I dont mean to keep cost down (such as Corolla, or any other econo box).  When I say say a car is designed around sales I am talking about cars like the Mazda MP3.  They took a perfectly fine protege, added a cd player that would play mp3z, painted it yellow, and transformed it into a marketing car.  I'm sure it is still a perfectly tame protege.  But I hate it when a company makes changes like that for the sole purpose of changing the target market group to kids who think yellow=fast and have no idea.  Please don't flame me for saying so, But I also feel the WRX is along these same lines.....  *ducks and hides for cover*   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Red · 09-15-2002, 01:12 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (onebadm5 @ June 04 2002,12:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont hate cars, its the owners i cant stand.

take today for example. s15dude and i were cruising around, picking up some stuff for work. at a stop light, i glanced at a red roadster a few lanes over with historical auto plate. turned out to be a brick red MG T. Being an enthusiast above all, i looked over his car, and threw him the nod. he replied with a thumbsup and drove off.

THEN, we drove by an EG6 Civic hatch. the dude had a carbon fiber hood and some other mods. As soon as he saw us looking at him, both he and his passenger threw us the bird! WTF?!?!?!?!?! Where does he get off flicking us off? Oh well, i guess ignorance is bliss, for ricers at least...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Thats why I guess I hate honda's sooooo much.. its the people. Its not like its a bad car.... Just 80% that I see are driven by ....... yeah.

06-03-2002, 06:45 PM	#2
SaintlyCharBoy Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bow, NH Age: 39 Posts: 849 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	not to be a PITA, but i don't think that i can honestly say that i hate any cars i will however say that some [cough]kias[/cough] are downright silly, and that i think that some people do stupid hideous things to them i personally think that every vehicle, alpha to yugo and everywhere in between has a niche, even if it is jusst as cheap transportation shit even my old camry wagon was fun at times lets just say that each body lowers the top speed about 10-15 mph, and it has held up to 17 (very uncomfortably i might add, and only for 3 miles) a quote from chickenmanq -remember him?- from "an old guy" "never hate in the plural" [edit] i know that everything is a trade off, i bought my s14 because it is relatively comfortable, has a nice fat torque range, is f/r, handles well stock, and is both economical and reliable, a pretty well rounded beastie for pretty cheap money[/edit] __________________ 92 vert - KADE + VH41 + GM MA5 = too many parts in the garage 95 base - retired

06-03-2002, 07:18 PM	#3
wa-fu Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 109 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I hate cars that belch smoke, mini-vans with a sticker of a soccer ball, and Ford Excursion/Expedition/Explorer things.  Also hate the token Yugo/Kia/Geo that flies down the interstate at 85 MPH on three little tires and one smaller spare. __________________ ...got to find the reason why my money's all gone...

06-03-2002, 08:22 PM	#5
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hate the owner....not the car...the car can control what the owner does  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

06-04-2002, 11:39 AM	#7
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 39 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	honestly, i only like hookup modified cars that are high hp or runs really fast in the quarter. for an example, i like a honda integra that runs 11's and a dually diesal truck that runs 13's __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

06-08-2002, 02:28 AM	#9
BlackFox Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 534 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cars have to look asthetically pleasing, like 240's Case in point of a jacked up design: Toyota Echo (toyota makes good cars but they messed up this design  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> ) __________________ Current Cars: 1976 Mercedes Benz 300D 1995 240sx SE aka Kate (winner: Best Stock S14 @ 2002 National Convention) http://community.webshots.com/user/jeff976cal If you're interested in parts email me [email protected]

06-03-2002, 06:36 PM	#1
gh6o6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well there is such controversy i really would like to know what you people think i guess you want to know what i think too? well i look at the car and evaluate the looks, engine, drivetrain, and suspension charateristics and make a decision on that - its also important to consider what the purpose of the car is and its reliability. I have been know to make fun of a civic because to me they arent built for proformance (minus the si) but people make it out like its god. it has its good points and its bad ill never make fun of a stock civic thats driven by a person who isent trying to be the fastest/coolest thing since sliced bread. show me a fast civic without the decal or "look at me i have the loudest buzzing exaust ever" and ill respect it suvs are a hole different story- i mean you not off roading on a highway nor will most people EVER take there car off road. most people driving suvs are in them alone or with a couple of people (what the hell is the capacity of an excursion - like 80 people - whens the last time you saw one of them full?) they are all over the road and waste so much gas - the only thing i really like about them it there capabilities when used for there purpose.   hope i have helped and that i can lean from your opinions

06-03-2002, 07:30 PM	#4
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 39 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't hate any car. Do I make fun of some in a sterotypical manner? Yes. Would I mind owning one of the car's I make fun of? No not really. If I was'nt a Nissan Nazi I'd sport around in a Civic or Stang.  It's when the OWNER of the car makes his car out to be something that it isn't that you start hearing people "hate a car" or when a car is put on a pedestal (like the mustang is the ULTIMATE sports car or the Civic is the epitome of import performance) that people have to rag on the car so they can feel better, cause everyone wants to think there personal choice in cars is the best. I think all those factor in "hating a car"

06-04-2002, 01:35 AM	#6
onebadm5 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 678 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i dont hate cars, its the owners i cant stand. take today for example. s15dude and i were cruising around, picking up some stuff for work. at a stop light, i glanced at a red roadster a few lanes over with historical auto plate. turned out to be a brick red MG T. Being an enthusiast above all, i looked over his car, and threw him the nod. he replied with a thumbsup and drove off. THEN, we drove by an EG6 Civic hatch. the dude had a carbon fiber hood and some other mods. As soon as he saw us looking at him, both he and his passenger threw us the bird! WTF?!?!?!?!?! Where does he get off flicking us off? Oh well, i guess ignorance is bliss, for ricers at least...

06-04-2002, 11:58 PM	#8
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ June 05 2002,11:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">honestly, i only like hookup modified cars that are high hp or runs really fast in the quarter. for an example, i like a honda integra that runs 11's and a dually diesal truck that runs 13's</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> honestly.......those are the cars i hate. cars built to only go fast in a straight line are the ones i can't stand. hence why i despise the camaro and firebird, but respect the Z06. i also don't particularly like lamborghini's. but to each his own, right boosted?

06-08-2002, 08:55 PM	#10
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 37 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A nice car is a nice car, no matter what company made it. I don't like FF cars at all, and will never own one as my daily driver, but I'm not going to say that a 400HP civic is a piece of shit. __________________ Learn everything you can, while you still have the chance.

06-12-2002, 12:12 PM	#11
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 39 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">honestly.......those are the cars i hate. cars built to only go fast in a straight line are the ones i can't stand. hence why i despise the camaro and firebird, but respect the Z06. i also don't particularly like lamborghini's. but to each his own, right boosted?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> right, we all have our own ways with there car. i grew up with a racing background from Motorcross racing since i was 6yrs old and watching my uncle drag race his Chevy Nova. dont get me wrong but i love open wheel racing too. i regularly go to lime rock park to watch racing  and kart  racing. i just love racing in general. it could be from racing your brother to the school bus or playing Gran Turismo. but since  my friends and family are more into motor performance and drag racing, i made my car for HP  rather than handling. it really depends on what u are introduced to first or what your idea of racing should be. __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

06-13-2002, 02:51 PM	#12
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 38 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I only hate cars that are heavily modded and are not pleasing to the eye.  I really like cars that have good body lines in its stock form and look much better with some mods.  The '97 240SX and '96 Supra would be a good examples of that. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

06-14-2002, 11:50 AM	#13
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 42 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am a lover of all that drives  From a '96 chevy impala or a '69 camaro or maybe a...let me see Skyline (any '92 up) Whatever it is I love it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  My other car is a Ford Focus I have no desire to make 300hp w/ it or make it a auto-x beast Why you ask because that's not what it was made for my 240 was so that is what I want to make hp w/.  I respect a 300hp civic as much as the next man but those that have the goals and no skill bug me and the few that decide that a 9 ft tall carbon fiber wing would look good on their Lancer (there is one around my area) w/ no other mods than a bolt on muffler gets no love my friend.  And if he revs he POS at again I will get out of my 240 and proceed to urinate all over that God forsaken bookshelf on his trunk <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

08-27-2002, 05:02 PM	#14
240Dori Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: MI Age: 37 Posts: 162 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I cant vote on this one.  The way i decide on a car is if it is a good balance between power and handleing.  Cars that are super powered but handle like shit, suck.  also the potential of a car plays alot into my opinion, for example a car that is all tuned and you cant do shit to out of the box, also sucks.

09-03-2002, 09:15 AM	#15
dannhctc Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Granted that people do stupid things to cars that I would like had it remained stock (or tasteful).  But there are a few cars I have a problem with from the get-go.  Personally I dislike any car that was designed around sales rather than performance/safety.  And when I say sales, I dont mean to keep cost down (such as Corolla, or any other econo box).  When I say say a car is designed around sales I am talking about cars like the Mazda MP3.  They took a perfectly fine protege, added a cd player that would play mp3z, painted it yellow, and transformed it into a marketing car.  I'm sure it is still a perfectly tame protege.  But I hate it when a company makes changes like that for the sole purpose of changing the target market group to kids who think yellow=fast and have no idea.  Please don't flame me for saying so, But I also feel the WRX is along these same lines.....  ducks and hides for cover   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ Live hard, Die Young, Leave a good-looking corpse!

09-15-2002, 01:12 AM	#16
Red Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA - Portland, OR Age: 40 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (onebadm5 @ June 04 2002,12:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont hate cars, its the owners i cant stand. take today for example. s15dude and i were cruising around, picking up some stuff for work. at a stop light, i glanced at a red roadster a few lanes over with historical auto plate. turned out to be a brick red MG T. Being an enthusiast above all, i looked over his car, and threw him the nod. he replied with a thumbsup and drove off. THEN, we drove by an EG6 Civic hatch. the dude had a carbon fiber hood and some other mods. As soon as he saw us looking at him, both he and his passenger threw us the bird! WTF?!?!?!?!?! Where does he get off flicking us off? Oh well, i guess ignorance is bliss, for ricers at least...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Thats why I guess I hate honda's sooooo much.. its the people. Its not like its a bad car.... Just 80% that I see are driven by ....... yeah. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509537 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287415487 http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=21036

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