NissanEnthus

Only problem I see with this statement is that the games are not owned by Sony or any console manufacturer, so I dont see them re-selling codes. This would hurt Gamestop BIG TIME which I'm glad honestly because they are the game Nazis when it comes to used game resale. For used games I take my chances on Ebay anyway.
The whole one time code thing would be a huge dealbreaker for me.......If I'm going to purchase a game for 60 bucks (or possibly more!!) The game better be worth every penny and top notch with more than enough replay value for me not to be able to sell it again. A good example is any fighter, I didnt through down 60 bucks on the recent Street Fighter I waited till it was 20 bucks or used...Its a game you can beat in a couple hours in one sitting.

If this rumor goes through for either console maker I see PS3's and xbox360's value holding up or going up!

irax

Like I said, they already do this. And this would be for First/Second party games. First party games are ones made by Sony studios, Second party are games made by studios that have exclusive contracts or are supported by Sony. Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo do own the rights to their games and consoles. Pretty soon all games will be download only anyways and there will be no more game retailers. But that's not because of single use codes, but that is how the market is trending.


Trust me when I say this, Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo do not want to hurt game retailers. If you disagree with their policies then stop purchasing from them.

It's not buying the game new is what is "hurting" the video game industry, that and pirating. Like I already said, game companies are already doing this. It's just now hitting the consoles. PC games have been doing this since the 90's.


Not any time soon. Sony and Microsoft will probably shut down services for those consoles and limit their online functionality. Like older generation consoles, PS3 and XBOX360 will be just junk in 4-5 years. Only collectors or enthusiasts will be interested in them. Maybe 10-15 years down the road people will have private Pseudo Station Network where you can connect and play maybe one or two classic games online with other people.

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irax

Love that video. I want a t-shirt that says that at the end.
I blame Sega and Microsoft for DLC. I also blame companies for supporting DLC. Paying for the use of a shotgun in a game is just STUPID. Its like buying a deck of cards and then Bicycle charges you an extra 2 bucks for using the Ace of Spades.

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Freddy

You're dumb if you think Xbox isn't going to do the same. This whole battle against used games is happening right now. All these online pass what do you think they are.

I knew this would happen, this is prob coming from the publishers EA, Ubisoft etc

BustedS13

i recently traded MW3 for a used copy of BF3. i had to pay 10 or 15 dollars to play online, because it was used. also, there's a ten dollar expansion that came as a download code with the original game. seems to really affect how many games are available to me. so i traded a $60 game for a game i had to spend ~$25 on to fully utilize, and on top of that the game blows dick. but that's just my opinion.

anyway that's why i still play black ops.

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WanganRunner

Quake video was awesome.

New games are crap compared to the old run and gun stuff. Rocket jumping, Binslayers, etc. QIII and UT, etc. I used to get jacked up on adderall and play UT for like 5 hours straight just owning shit. It was so much faster/twitchier than the new games are.

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SochBAT

TF2. All day, errrr day.

irax

No, its all about LMCTF for quake2 or Team Fortress for Quake 1 ALL DAY ERRR DAY! Fucking Rocket Arena 3 WAS THE FUCKING BOMB!

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Corbic

I loved MW2 - all the other games have sucked.

However games like Dark Souls keeps me thinking there is hope. Fuck the next gen systems. I've barely scratched the surface of the current systems collections and I'm not fucking puking up another $400-$600 + games.

Corbic

Bingo. Microsoft already announced Gen3 will not support used software.

Look up "EA Project Ten Dollar". Basically they want to ensure you have to pay $10 to them to play the game.

You either pay $60 new, or buy/borrow/trade it used but still need to pay $10 to play online ect.

This is pure publisher profit. Retailers and developers get squat.

I expect the future of gaming will be to cut out retailers completely, you download your game from the Sony/Microsoft network, cutting distribution costs.

This also ensures there are no resell-able copies floating around bypassing the download system.

Fuck
This
Shit

VNG704

That's because it's soo much easier to steal/pirate PC games.

Not excited about the PS4 because of this. Power to you if you are. I might buy a used one...if they allow that.

scott883

so in my game informer i read today if anyone else hasn't that the only reason the ps4 wont be letting you play ps3 games and below is because they might switch gpu's which wont support that format of games there still 50/50 on it and as far as xbox they said they would never take away used games thats just as silly as a though of them making there next counsel with no cd drive only a hd. so if you buy used games suck it up and pay the 10 to 15 for ur online pass or buy the new game and stop being a fuck. and ps4 and xbox next wont be coming out tell 13 or 14 so that 400dollar gfx card will be about 100bucks by then so the price wont be anything more then what were paying for these right now. just sayin.

redline racer510

I f what they say about the new PS is true they are going to have a hard time selling there new consoles, I am going to stick with my ps3. BTW xbox sucks major donkey d!ck.

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irax

At least console gamers can still resell games. You can't buy used PC games that require a cdkey.

Now now, don't hurt your little head. I'm sure the big corporations are going to sell their dream boxes just fine.

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scott883

im a pc gamer over consoles but honestly i download alot of cracked games and if there good ill buy it for multiplayer other than that i really dont mind. im just saying what they said the mag for anyone whos still thinking there fucked in ever aspect with trade in games. i mean if you get a game for 20bucks suck it up and buy the 10dollar key, if you buy it for 50, then you should bought it new cause its gonna be the same price after the key.

Corbic

I think you are missing the point. The $10-15 for an online multiplayer key is just the start, its the tip of the iceberg.

In reading about the next gen X-box, the disc is just going to be a "medium".

Developers feel that "you are paying for the experience" not for a product. That means no borrowing, sharing, renting and loaning of games, no reselling. Everyone that wants that "experience" needs to pay them.

The goal is to make games download content only - cut out the cost of discs, cases and retailers. The problem is, not everyone has a hi-speed internet connection - yet.

irax

Honestly if EVERY game you buy requires a cdkey it will drive prices down for used games since they will have to buy the cdkey anyways. That also means no more getting 40 bucks for a new game because you beat it in 6 hours.

The end goal will be micro transaction. Give away the game for free/cheap and then sell parts of the game. Users are more likely to spend upwards of $120 on game content over a year, and continue making purchases. Subscription based gameplay will go out the window soon too. Users will feel like there is more interaction with the content they have/buy and will spend more for it. Pre-order bonuses will go away too (at least I hope they do) once it becomes freemium.

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BOROSUN

ViewSonic VP3280-LED 31.5-inch 4K monitor prototype hands-on (video) -- Engadget
not a sony but, a demo of ultra HD monitor 4k res. check how the camera zoomed to the monitor and was still clear ass fuck. i want it.

anyways,

based on this benchmark review, 4k gaming is very intensive. if the rumor orbit is based on the 7900 series, sony might need a serious boosting in hardware. 5gb or maybe a 8gb for 8k. hmmmm.
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ONYX S-13

I can totally see the pirates having a field day with this. All someone has to do is create a keygen/crack for it and then say Eff sony and microsoft.

When you sell the game used just provide the person buying the game with the keygen/crack and get most of your money back.

I'm not condoning this, but its seriously inevitable if they are going to stick it to the retailers/consumers. *shrugs*

BOROSUN

recent leaked specs.
The PlayStation 4 Has A New Controller, Fancy User Accounts And Impressive Specs (So Far)

System Memory: 8GB
Video Memory: 2.2 GB
CPU: 4x Dual-Core AMD64 "Bulldozer" (so, 8x cores)
GPU: AMD R10xx
Ports: 4x USB 3.0, 2x Ethernet
Drive: Blu-Ray
HDD: 160GB
Audio Output: HDMI & Optical, 2.0, 5.1 & 7.1 channels

that is more powerful than peoples current pc around here. probably more expensive too, hopefully not.


kids today are so lucky. multiplayer split screens is the pass.

Matej

Actually, those specs are not very impressive.

I really do not see the point in buying consoles anymore. Ever since the age of PS2 and the original Xbox, they have slowly been turning into gaming computers, in usability and price alike, except with inferior controls and performance.

Obviously their advantage over a computer is supposed to be the cost and ease of setup and play, but with all the various junk one has to connect/download/sign-up/pay separately for today, while using an annoying controller for input (yes, optional input devices are available, at extra cost), I hardly see any advantage. Especially since today most computers are made so dummies can set them up as well, and many new pre-built gaming setups are available for prices similar to a new console, with better specs. Plus on top of playing games, music, and watching movies, they can do everything that a computer can do.

Not to mention, the quality of online play on consoles has been sad lately. Whenever I played the last few times, I felt like I was surrounded by little kids and high school dropouts.

turbobrick

The problem is a lot of games just don't get released for the PC. Thats the major reason I mostly play on consoles is because of the larger game selection.

Omarius Maximus

Welp, I'm not psychic, but I have a feeling Sony will shoot themselves in the foot.

1. It will be difficult to develop for.
2. It will have a shoddy software development kit (which means a sparsity of launch titles).
3. It will be laden with unnecessary features (terrible web browser, anyone?).

Those are my *wild* guesses; knowing Sony. I think this is Microsoft's game to lose.

EDacIouSX

I LOVE QUAKE 2! I miss that game so much. it was so awesome and when it was out it was so revolutionary... man what great memories.

SochBAT

Specs aren't too great. It's a bit more powerful than my PC now. And saying the PC doesn't have a library of games? Are you fucking HIGH?

And regarding that split multiplayer, it's been out for some time. All you need is a 3d compatible TV and spare 3d glasses from the movie theatres.

How to make 3D tv split screen video games full screen without ps3 tv - YouTube

exitspeed

Yeah, but every console every has been underpowered compared to PC's. Who cares. The first time you played Metal Gear did you give one fuck that there was better looking PC games? Probably not.

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bc.

The used games bit really sucks. I have almost always bought used. Shouldn't I be allowed to sell and buy a used game? I can sell my used car and buy a used car.

They don't have a problem with used games, they have a problem with new game prices.

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BOROSUN

the biggest Q?? mark is the GPU.

will sony push ps4, to push 4k tvs?



my link was about 4k tv multiplayer. 4k man, not some laggy input half resolution 3d.

ONYX S-13

Seriously.

Used cars, cd's, clothes, tv's, etc.

Yeah the company takes a hit because they can't get profit off of it but its sure better then just throwing the product away. At least if you pass the game along used you can potentially get new customer's because without that used sale they would have never used your product in the first place.


Kind of like my first american car (saturn). Yeah it's a 98, yeah, they are ugly, yeah they aren't that comfortable, but when I saw one for only 950 bucks with 92,XXX miles I jumped on the deal. Its been super reliable and they are cake to work on. When Saturn started churning out decent cars (before they went under), they actually had a potential buyer of their product(s) and it came down to the initial USED product buy.

just my $0.02.