RPSil13 ripped me off!!! - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

BillyTheChamp · 10-16-2007, 09:37 PM

name is Art L.
2 emails.. [email protected] and [email protected] (was his paypal.. i will post his number if nothing gets resolved.. he is from Anaheim, California

i bought from this guy a quick release carbon fiber, short hub, and nrg lock from this thread..http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=159166.. for the agreed price of 216.30 shipped, well when I receive the item a week later.. and he had locked the short hub, quick release and lock all together with the nrg lock..(will post pics) and he did not send the keys.. rendering the unit completely useless.. and the short hub was dented (which he didnt mention in the thread)

so after calling,texting,pming and complaining he flips out cursing me out saying that his girlfriend got in an accident and he doesn't have time to deal with my crap.. i then complained that it was terrible customer service.. and then he replies that i low balled him so it doesn't matter and he will deal with me on monday..(funny he didn't complain when we agreed on the price) i then replied that regardless of price we agreed on it.. (i have all our conversation on text and pms on file).. i will post them if everyone want to see our exact conversations..

so my concerns was that he lost the keys and doesn't intend to send them.. so i filed a claim on paypal.. untill he sent the keys..

then so today morning -tuesday- he sends me a pm saying that he found the keys but he doesnt intend to send them unless i pay him an extra 35.00.. here is the exact pm by him...

"yes i found the keys, but you never paid for the keys, if you look at your invoice you sent me payment for the short hub, quick release and lock, so ill be posting them up on "for sale" thread, but since your a premier customer and im such a nice guy ill let you have dibs on it, wll prob post them tonight for $35, lmk if you want them, HAVE A NICE DAY : )"

who sells a lock with out keys??!? so I text and pm him asking if he is serious.. the keys wont work with another lock.. and I continue to ask him if he is seriously not going to send me the keys.. and he just texted me back that "the real question is, are you not going to send me the money and let all those parts go to waste".. this is totally unethical of him.. and i think he will do this to other people he sells to..
i already called nrg and they said that they can't send me new keys.. but will give me a deal on a new one.. great cust service..

Send me those keys Art! you are a theif!

so I'm going to post in all his threads how he stole from me and how he is a scammer..

babowc · 10-16-2007, 09:42 PM

lol
oh man.
just follow through with the paypal claim..
what the heck.. thats the most douchebaggery thing i ever heard.
lol.

BillyTheChamp · 10-16-2007, 09:44 PM

i did follow through with the claim.. i could have easily ripped him off.. but i didnt.. but paypal said they wont award me my money back since it only covers miss shipped items not missing/broken items.. im going to have to call the credit card company and possibly claim it as fraud..

babowc · 10-16-2007, 09:47 PM

tell paypal its not significantly as described.
they should be able to rule it in your favor..
also tell them not all parts were included as in the sale thread.

or just simply go through your cc.

BillyTheChamp · 10-16-2007, 09:48 PM

yeah im going to call my credit card company tommrow..

boogerlovers · 10-16-2007, 10:00 PM

wow what an asshole...i hope you get those damn keys man...wat a dick

azndoc · 10-16-2007, 11:26 PM

Damn that's a badass scam/blackmail

It's like selling a car and then asking another $10,000 for the key to it.

WOW.....

soon2bs13 · 10-16-2007, 11:29 PM

wow...that sucks. i hope he gets kicked in the nuts...

hunter8411 · 10-17-2007, 12:40 AM

Damn man that sucks, thats all kinds of shady. Hope you get your money back.

***S14DB*** · 10-17-2007, 01:20 AM

RPSil13 needs to PM me or be banned from the marketplace.

adrians_s13 · 10-17-2007, 01:30 AM

damn... thats pretty weakk...

BillyTheChamp · 10-17-2007, 01:51 AM

yeah.. thanks for the support guys.. i hope i get my money back too.. and enjoy my new paper weight...(unless he sends the keys).. bottom line he is just keeping it to be a dick..sadly this is the first time i got screwed on a car forum (i was on honda-tech for a long time user name (you know i got sol!) and have had about 40 plus transactions with no problems at all.. and i have been paypal verifed since 2002.. sadly i guess after this, it's hard for me to buy from a private seller anymore unless it's face to face.. so i guess im buying all my parts from sponsors now..

***FaLKoN240*** · 10-17-2007, 02:02 AM

What the hell, what a shitty seller, he should be banned from more than just the marketplace. People that do dirt like that to other members have no place on this forum.

WERDdabuilder · 10-17-2007, 02:50 AM

wow..the fuck kinda seller is that. sell the lock but not the key with it?

BAN FOR LIFE!

gluck with it man.

Tearlessj · 10-17-2007, 05:04 AM

O damn thats completely fucked up. I hope he gets whats coming to him. Good luck with that.

*zerooath* · 10-17-2007, 07:21 AM

Get this stuff straightened out somehow then BAN HIS ASS from the whole site.

people like this guy ruin the fucking internet.

mayco_86 · 10-17-2007, 08:31 AM

Hopefully paypal refunds your money back because I kinda been in the same situation but paypal never refunded my money back. Even though I had emails the guy.

*exitspeed* · 10-17-2007, 08:51 AM

Fuck that that douchebag is getting neg rep from me asap. What a fuckin dick. This kind of stuff makes me so angry, even though it doesn't concern me one bit. People like this mess our community up here at Zilvia.

BillyTheChamp · 10-17-2007, 08:57 AM

yeah.. im going to call him again today.. he will probably ignore my call.. maybe he's wiling to make it right.. but probably not.. funny thing is i can find out all info like his address and social security, (of his entire family) if i wanted..

Saltman · 10-17-2007, 09:26 AM

Man that sucks. Sorry to hear about that. Hope you get you money back.

mayco_86 · 10-17-2007, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Fuck that that douchebag is getting neg rep from me asap. What a fuckin dick. This kind of stuff makes me so angry, even though it doesn't concern me one bit. People like this mess our community up here at Zilvia.

Hes definatley going down with that many good reps.

qt_240 · 10-17-2007, 10:40 AM

w0w.... he doesnt deserve to be here on zilvia.. i feel you man.. ive been swindle by shady business here on zilvia to0.. hope everything works out for you

Sil-Eighty SE-K · 10-17-2007, 11:15 AM

whne u get your money back thru your CC (cux paypal sucks and even if they rule in your favor if his acct is empty they tell you tough shit....) just pick the lock open and get a new one....youll have the whole setup for much cheaper

*DALAZ_68* · 10-17-2007, 11:19 AM

any chance u can go to lock smith and have them make u a key

something atleast ya know

*tacotacotaco* · 10-17-2007, 12:54 PM

you may have a pound of flesh but not one drop of blood.

BillyTheChamp · 10-17-2007, 01:00 PM

lol.. thanks guys.. well i took it to a lock smith and they said that they could not pick or make a copy of the lock.. they said they can drill it .. but i dont want to risk the chance of messing up the bottom part of the quick release that is attached to it.. and it's pritty difficult to saw it with out some heavy duty saw.. (nrg made a good design)..

well update..
i talked to Art via text message.. and he said that he will send the keys tommrow.. (thursday).. so i removed all the scammer posts from his threads.. hopefully thinks work out.. ill keep you guys informed on what goes down..

azndoc · 10-17-2007, 01:01 PM

Well I'm sure that he's realizing that all those red squares aren't funny anymore when your trying to sell other stuff.

BillyTheChamp · 10-17-2007, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azndoc

Well I'm sure that he's realizing that all those red squares aren't funny anymore when your trying to sell other stuff.

yeah that's the truth.. thanks for the support zilvia community.. i will give all you guys who supported me pos feedback.. this community really takes care of its members..

S13Leprechaun · 10-17-2007, 01:44 PM

i, as well as everyone else have already bad repped him.. lol.. good luck with the situation.

Mathetai · 10-17-2007, 01:44 PM

Hope all work out for you dude.

10-16-2007, 09:37 PM	#1
BillyTheChamp Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	RPSil13 ripped me off!!! name is Art L. 2 emails.. [email protected] and [email protected] (was his paypal.. i will post his number if nothing gets resolved.. he is from Anaheim, California i bought from this guy a quick release carbon fiber, short hub, and nrg lock from this thread..http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=159166.. for the agreed price of 216.30 shipped, well when I receive the item a week later.. and he had locked the short hub, quick release and lock all together with the nrg lock..(will post pics) and he did not send the keys.. rendering the unit completely useless.. and the short hub was dented (which he didnt mention in the thread) so after calling,texting,pming and complaining he flips out cursing me out saying that his girlfriend got in an accident and he doesn't have time to deal with my crap.. i then complained that it was terrible customer service.. and then he replies that i low balled him so it doesn't matter and he will deal with me on monday..(funny he didn't complain when we agreed on the price) i then replied that regardless of price we agreed on it.. (i have all our conversation on text and pms on file).. i will post them if everyone want to see our exact conversations.. so my concerns was that he lost the keys and doesn't intend to send them.. so i filed a claim on paypal.. untill he sent the keys.. then so today morning -tuesday- he sends me a pm saying that he found the keys but he doesnt intend to send them unless i pay him an extra 35.00.. here is the exact pm by him... "yes i found the keys, but you never paid for the keys, if you look at your invoice you sent me payment for the short hub, quick release and lock, so ill be posting them up on "for sale" thread, but since your a premier customer and im such a nice guy ill let you have dibs on it, wll prob post them tonight for $35, lmk if you want them, HAVE A NICE DAY : )" who sells a lock with out keys??!? so I text and pm him asking if he is serious.. the keys wont work with another lock.. and I continue to ask him if he is seriously not going to send me the keys.. and he just texted me back that "the real question is, are you not going to send me the money and let all those parts go to waste".. this is totally unethical of him.. and i think he will do this to other people he sells to.. i already called nrg and they said that they can't send me new keys.. but will give me a deal on a new one.. great cust service.. Send me those keys Art! you are a theif! so I'm going to post in all his threads how he stole from me and how he is a scammer..

10-16-2007, 10:00 PM	#6
boogerlovers Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Palmdale Age: 33 Posts: 1,082 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	wow what an asshole...i hope you get those damn keys man...wat a dick __________________

10-17-2007, 01:20 AM	#10
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	RPSil13 needs to PM me or be banned from the marketplace. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

10-17-2007, 01:30 AM	#11
adrians_s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: long beach, CA ^_^ Age: 36 Posts: 2,877 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	damn... thats pretty weakk... __________________ @adrianfromthecastle

10-17-2007, 02:02 AM	#13
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,760 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	What the hell, what a shitty seller, he should be banned from more than just the marketplace. People that do dirt like that to other members have no place on this forum. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

10-16-2007, 09:42 PM	#2
babowc Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: G.NET Posts: 2,659 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	lol oh man. just follow through with the paypal claim.. what the heck.. thats the most douchebaggery thing i ever heard. lol.

10-16-2007, 09:44 PM	#3
BillyTheChamp Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i did follow through with the claim.. i could have easily ripped him off.. but i didnt.. but paypal said they wont award me my money back since it only covers miss shipped items not missing/broken items.. im going to have to call the credit card company and possibly claim it as fraud..

10-16-2007, 09:47 PM	#4
babowc Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: G.NET Posts: 2,659 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	tell paypal its not significantly as described. they should be able to rule it in your favor.. also tell them not all parts were included as in the sale thread. or just simply go through your cc.

10-16-2007, 09:48 PM	#5
BillyTheChamp Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah im going to call my credit card company tommrow..

10-16-2007, 11:26 PM	#7
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Damn that's a badass scam/blackmail It's like selling a car and then asking another $10,000 for the key to it. WOW.....

10-16-2007, 11:29 PM	#8
soon2bs13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: TN Posts: 482 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow...that sucks. i hope he gets kicked in the nuts...

10-17-2007, 12:40 AM	#9
hunter8411 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 37 Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Damn man that sucks, thats all kinds of shady. Hope you get your money back.

10-17-2007, 01:51 AM	#12
BillyTheChamp Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah.. thanks for the support guys.. i hope i get my money back too.. and enjoy my new paper weight...(unless he sends the keys).. bottom line he is just keeping it to be a dick..sadly this is the first time i got screwed on a car forum (i was on honda-tech for a long time user name (you know i got sol!) and have had about 40 plus transactions with no problems at all.. and i have been paypal verifed since 2002.. sadly i guess after this, it's hard for me to buy from a private seller anymore unless it's face to face.. so i guess im buying all my parts from sponsors now..

10-17-2007, 05:04 AM	#15
Tearlessj Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Memphis Age: 29 Posts: 1,907 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	O damn thats completely fucked up. I hope he gets whats coming to him. Good luck with that. __________________ Nagasaki Motors Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.

10-17-2007, 07:21 AM	#16
zerooath 98 Kouki Slicktop. Tip Dealer! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Biloxi, Mississippi! Age: 32 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Get this stuff straightened out somehow then BAN HIS ASS from the whole site. people like this guy ruin the fucking internet. __________________

10-17-2007, 08:31 AM	#17
mayco_86 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 988 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Hopefully paypal refunds your money back because I kinda been in the same situation but paypal never refunded my money back. Even though I had emails the guy.

10-17-2007, 08:51 AM	#18
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Fuck that that douchebag is getting neg rep from me asap. What a fuckin dick. This kind of stuff makes me so angry, even though it doesn't concern me one bit. People like this mess our community up here at Zilvia. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

10-17-2007, 08:57 AM	#19
BillyTheChamp Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah.. im going to call him again today.. he will probably ignore my call.. maybe he's wiling to make it right.. but probably not.. funny thing is i can find out all info like his address and social security, (of his entire family) if i wanted..

10-17-2007, 09:26 AM	#20
Saltman Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: "Boringham", AL Age: 40 Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man that sucks. Sorry to hear about that. Hope you get you money back. __________________ Curves are sexy

10-17-2007, 10:40 AM	#22
qt_240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CHI Posts: 2,122 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	w0w.... he doesnt deserve to be here on zilvia.. i feel you man.. ive been swindle by shady business here on zilvia to0.. hope everything works out for you

10-17-2007, 11:19 AM	#24
DALAZ_68 not giving a fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los angeles Age: 35 Posts: 15,080 Trader Rating: (104) Feedback Score: 104 reviews	any chance u can go to lock smith and have them make u a key something atleast ya know

10-17-2007, 12:54 PM	#25
tacotacotaco Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GRRRVINE!!! Age: 38 Posts: 3,247 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: tacotacotaco Feedback Score: 16 reviews	you may have a pound of flesh but not one drop of blood.

10-17-2007, 01:00 PM	#26
BillyTheChamp Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol.. thanks guys.. well i took it to a lock smith and they said that they could not pick or make a copy of the lock.. they said they can drill it .. but i dont want to risk the chance of messing up the bottom part of the quick release that is attached to it.. and it's pritty difficult to saw it with out some heavy duty saw.. (nrg made a good design).. well update.. i talked to Art via text message.. and he said that he will send the keys tommrow.. (thursday).. so i removed all the scammer posts from his threads.. hopefully thinks work out.. ill keep you guys informed on what goes down.. Last edited by BillyTheChamp; 10-17-2007 at 01:01 PM.. Reason: added info..

10-17-2007, 01:01 PM	#27
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Well I'm sure that he's realizing that all those red squares aren't funny anymore when your trying to sell other stuff.

10-17-2007, 01:44 PM	#29
S13Leprechaun Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 1904 Posts: 1,110 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i, as well as everyone else have already bad repped him.. lol.. good luck with the situation. __________________ *thurs. knights.*

10-17-2007, 01:44 PM	#30
Mathetai BANNED Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SOCAL <///>< Age: 39 Posts: 1,193 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Hope all work out for you dude.

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