Silvia_S13

no personal experience with the stance coilovers.

but my opinion, why does a company have to make different stages of a coilover, do they make a cheap version for people to save money, then run the shit out of them to make sure there still legit? then make a better version, and run the shit out of those for a review, then make some pro+ and run the shit out of those, then give a review. and ur weakest model cost more then other brands?

im not here to tell u what brands better then others, but parts shop max is parts made by drifters, for drifters. the people sitting in the shop selling the parts, run the parts. so far seems like the only reason people are hessitant is because its cheap, but since when was a good price a bad thing?

some how blow ur coilovers some day? dont wanna sit around with ur car parked on jackstands waiting for a ur coilovers to come back from a rebuild? u dont have to with max, they supply you with a new core'd coilover for less then the price of any rebuild, with zero down time.

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hellion240sx

not being a smart ass.
zar use the search button, and they'll show the threads about stance. i searched a while back maybe a month ago. to my surprise there were a lot of threads about problems with stance coilovers.

i think i have made up my mind, i'm going with p/b max

pinkarrowsnow

Yes go with max they are kick ass i was leaving a parking lot today and i swore my rear wheels got air haha and i was running them all the way soft.

lonelydrifter

I see everyone says these coils are best for drifting and everything but what about for other types of racing like auto-x and just circuit racing?

!Zar!

Glad to hear you like them, but damping doesn't affect droop in the contex you put it.

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longdy

imma keep my eyes on this tread too..lol im trying to sell me ksports and get either powermax set or Stance gr+

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Silvia_S13

these coilovers improve handling no matter what type of driving you do. drifting is just an example of the abuse they can withstand.

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jkeisser

Hey !Zar!, heres the link..
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=140603&page=2

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!Zar!

I don't want this thread to get too far off track from talking about MAX products, but most of those guys just have problems setting the coils up themselves. Not tightening the camber plate screws, loose shock nut, bad balljoint or lca and, not enough preload all contribute to the, "popping" I've heard. I've worked around many different cars with stance and have yet to see any problems. One of my cars are running stance right now. Once MAX finishes development for coilovers for my particular application then I will try them out and compare.

But for now, I don't see how people who don't even know what droop or preload is, to tell me if coilovers suck or not.

Now on to the subject of MAX coilovers, you can't go wrong. Good price. great customer service, no need for waiting weeks for rebuild.

I mean damn, after stopping down at the shop and talking to those guys and the, "feel" you get from the atmosphere there is reason enough to pick them up.

There is no clear cut answer of which coilovers to get in this price range.

Everyone needs to stop expecting to be hand fed and man up.

If you're interested in MAX coilovers then buy them. WORST CAST is they suck. So what. Sell them and try Stance and visa versa.

I'm pretty confident if you put the coilovers up for trade someone would respond because the choice is almost fifty/fifty.

IMO there are way too many threads like this. People don't have the ability to figure out what they want and they are expecting clear cut answers.

There won't be.

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shhh youll scare the bandwagoners off ace...

(pulls out turkey call, loads shotgun)


I love when i say ground control and people laugh at me.

its not jdm I guess.

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Feint Of Heart

Yeah, I agree Zar. You will never get a true comparison of which coilover is better than another coilover unless you, yourself runs them all at some point, and then decides for yourself which you think is the best.

I made this thread asking for 1st hand opinions on them, from actual coil users. Not if they were better than Stance or whatever. To people asking what the difference is between the two, it really comes down to MAX being standard damping/ non-inverted monotube all around, where as Stance has inverted monotube for the front coils.

Now that is the real reason why I am uncertain about MAX. Inverted damping adds a lot of strength to the coilover but it seems as if MAX coils are very well made and durable.

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AceInHole

You're right. I'm just upset that I didn't think to take cheap dampers and sell them off as JDM to make mad $$$, or take a modular design and market the flaws in poor fitment as "dual height adjustable!"

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hellion240sx

feint... if they blow their cheap to get fixed. if thats what your woried about.

Silvia_S13

with zero down time! only however long it takes u to re-install ur shit!

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240love

so if you daily drive your car these would suck then huh?

hippo_chips

Man, it depends on you. These coilovers are stiff and more track oriented, but I don't see anything wrong with using them for a daily driver car. I've had mine for 2 months already, and I drive everywhere everyday on them. They aren't harsh to me. I use to actually drive on full soft setting on all four corners. Now I drive 4 clicks from soft at front, and 2 clicks from soft in the rear, and it feels real comfortable.

hellion240sx

10/8 nahhhhhh. if you have to ask its too stiff for you. these are more track oriented, but you can put them on full soft if you like


i talk like i have these. i should be ordering tomorrow tho!

hellion240sx

Ahhhhh I'm Trying To Order These Friggin Things Now!!! But No One Is Answering Thte Phone!!!!! Was It Not Meant To Be? Whats Going On. Well I'll Respond To This Thread Once I Get My C/o. If I Am Meant To Have These Lol.

axiomatik

turn off your damn caps lock.

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hellion240sx

yeah my bad on that...

hellion240sx

if your wondering about using it for grip, like i was. i posted this question a while back in the advertiser specials

i asked


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Originally Posted by hellion240sx View Post
so you would only recommend these for drifting and no grip/ auto/ road racing?


he answered


so there you have it! hope that helps ya'll out

lonelydrifter

That's what I like to hear. That they are not inverted monotube...Not so much.

yokotas13

arent like tons of people in SCCA running GC/koni/kyb setups

If you dont need ot go super low, ground control is really the way to go from what i read about htem a few years back.

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hellion240sx

yeah just wanted to add to this, the stances re inverted up front only not the rears. from what i understand is that the inverted will take more abuse. but my counter on that is 100 bucks and you got a new one. so pbm makes up for them there in that aspect. if i am wrong someone correct me please.

Wiisass

The rears don't need to be inverted, they're shocks. The fronts are struts and take part of the load from the tire, that's why an inverted setup is stronger in the front because the tire is trying to bend the thing in half. In the rear, all the lateral suspension forces go into the suspension members.

As for an analysis of thse things, I recieved some dyno plots for them a month or so ago and ran the numbers. I really want to feel these things and figure out why everyone says they're stiff. Because unless the dyno plots aren't right, then they shouldn't ride stiff at all. But it might be because rebound is very hight and doesn't let the wheel down as quickly as it should. I don't know it's weird. There's a more thorough analysis on my site, but it's not working right now for some reason.

Tim

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hellion240sx

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plu...wtopic.php?962


there you go

Bushido

Just wanted to say I set the dampening on my Max coils to full stiff yesterday. Holy shit, it is fucking awesome! You can actually feel the 2mm difference between the road and the painted lines on it!! hahahaha

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hinds90

Any more reviews on these coilovers.

!Zar!

Instead of waiting for people, why don't you buy them and find out.

I mean, it's so cheap, buy it, try it and, sell it if you don't like it.

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randyjordan

i have these coilovers and i like them a lot

they're on the aggressive side..seriously..full stiff is almost unbareable [you just gotta be down]

they go low as fuck

its only 1k

replacements are cheap

what else could you ask for?