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drift freaq · 06-14-2009, 12:16 PM

The mounts I sold, also lowered the engine compared to the Nismo. Nismo mounts sit notoriously high.

GSXRJJordan · 06-14-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HYPNOTIK

Here is mine. It looks lower in the pic because of the angle but my oil pan sits 0"~1/8" below the sway bar. My downpipe is gonna bang something along time before my oil pan, it's still higher than the cross member.

Positioning looks good.

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

The mounts I sold, also lowered the engine compared to the Nismo. Nismo mounts sit notoriously high.

Yeah, anything would lower the engine compared to Nismo lol.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-14-2009, 04:38 PM

But the thing with Nismo is that after a year or 2, fucker starts feeling like my old worn stockers. Thats why I tell folks, dont bother with Nismo mounts...

DreamN · 06-14-2009, 04:54 PM

MotorMounts, I'm actually in the market for new mounts and am considering Peak Performance as my next setup. I definitely would not mind running your mounts and give an unbiased review. I daily and track the car so I can easily review on both aspects of driving.

Plus, in the end, I can ship them back. I'm not in search of a freedbie, would just like a test sample.

MrChow · 06-14-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HYPNOTIK

I just bought these mounts, they are AWESOME. They fall right in between Nismo mounts and solid. I HIGHLY recommend them. Excellent build quality too.

Uh... this thread got a lil hot.
In ended up with some nismo mounts

GSXRJJordan · 06-14-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrChow

Uh... this thread got a lil hot.
In ended up with some nismo mounts

Haha, that's like the worst option. Waste of $$$.

MotorMounts · 06-14-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamN

MotorMounts, I'm actually in the market for new mounts and am considering Peak Performance as my next setup. I definitely would not mind running your mounts and give an unbiased review. I daily and track the car so I can easily review on both aspects of driving.

Plus, in the end, I can ship them back. I'm not in search of a freedbie, would just like a test sample.

DreamN, Thanks for wanting to give our mounts a shot. Unfortunately we already found someone to demo the mounts and report back to the forum. Right now all I can offer is if you buy a set of mounts, you can return them for a full refund (less freight) even if you like them. Never have had a set of urethanes come back, especially if the guy liked 'em. I don't know if this helps or not, you can always send ours back, then get the Peaks. Then you would definately be the guy to tell the group what the score is. Peace, Max

DreamN · 06-14-2009, 11:24 PM

^ That's a great option as well. I'll definitely keep that offer in mind. Thank you.

***FaLKoN240*** · 06-15-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Haha, that's like the worst option. Waste of $$$.

My new Nismo mounts raised the oil pan above the swaybar...

I liked that

***S14DB*** · 06-15-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

My new Nismo mounts raised the oil pan above the swaybar...

I liked that

Me too. My old pan had enough dents in it. I was happy to raise my new one 0.5" above the crossmember.

MrChow · 06-15-2009, 10:51 AM

My friend had the Peak mounts. Those things were super sniff and it was the street one. It vibrated the whole car.

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Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Haha, that's like the worst option. Waste of $$$.

Bleh. I got them for 80 bucks. No one else posted any comments fast enough for me to go get some other ones. Or else I would of gotten something else.

*DALAZ_68* · 06-15-2009, 10:56 AM

from what im gathering heres the gist...

if ur running nismo mounts with stock hood...0 issues
aftermarket hood (like say Dmax) + nismo mounts = no bueno
these ebay mounts + aftermarket hood =????

my question would also be, what about height, i mean from what i recall the stock mounts/nismo mounts, have different height per side...expecially the CA, which gives it the ganster lean i come to love, is that incorporated into these ebay mounts, or are they flat out one set height?

Bigsyke · 06-15-2009, 01:50 PM

Using high quality polyurethane and our custom billet brackets, we have designed our own heavy duty MMs. This design will not seperate like stock type mounts but will provide less vibration than solid designs and is designed with the the stock offset for just like stock fitment. Also more economical than other mounts on the market. Only one small modification is required, the engine to MM bracket hole must be drilled out to 7/16" (11mm). This is very easy and can be done without removing the brackets.Pics of mounts installed 1 (pardon the dirt)Pics of mounts installed 2 (pardon the dirt)Install ID diagramTK218-S $119.99 USD a pair

So....Why are we contemplating mounts that dont involve an offset that nissan designed to effective hold the engine in place? Does anybody even understand why there is an offset on the mounting bolts? Why are we totally half assing things, I thought most of zilvia stereotype was about 240 owners cheaping out...however your spending an ammount of money already, only for them to end up in the trash bin because they arent the proper application.

drift freaq · 06-15-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsyke

Using high quality polyurethane and our custom billet brackets, we have designed our own heavy duty MMs. This design will not seperate like stock type mounts but will provide less vibration than solid designs and is designed with the the stock offset for just like stock fitment. Also more economical than other mounts on the market. Only one small modification is required, the engine to MM bracket hole must be drilled out to 7/16" (11mm). This is very easy and can be done without removing the brackets.Pics of mounts installed 1 (pardon the dirt)Pics of mounts installed 2 (pardon the dirt)Install ID diagramTK218-S $119.99 USD a pair

So....Why are we contemplating mounts that dont involve an offset that nissan designed to effective hold the engine in place? Does anybody even understand why there is an offset on the mounting bolts? Why are we totally half assing things, I thought most of zilvia stereotype was about 240 owners cheaping out...however your spending an ammount of money already, only for them to end up in the trash bin because they arent the proper application.

In my opinion based on my observations Nissan designed their inline engine mounts offset because the engines do have a tendency to torque to one side. Therefore they put offset mounts in that lean the engine slightly to the opposite of its torque push. I could be wrong but this what I have observed and feel it to be a logical conclusion based on the observations of the actual torque of the engines and the fact that they indeed lean to the oposite side. Which most likely would be achieved between a combination of slightly different brackets on each side and offset mounts.

OH and Nissan is not the only Automotive company that does this BMW does it as well on their inline engine setups.

With that said indeed the mounts I sold were offset. Is it super critical? Well they design these things for passenger cars and some kind of longevity, as well as comfort i.e. less vibrations and whatnot.

We are basically putting or cars into a performance segment that usually throws comfort out the window in favor of better performance.

Given that, not having offset mounts is a world ending issue. You can run them and their will be no problems.

I see no problem with it at all.

Oh I should add, those mounts look very well designed and now that its been cleared up that they do not have a solid shaft or connected metal in them, they sound great.

***S14DB*** · 06-15-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

In my opinion based on my observations Nissan designed their inline engine mounts offset because the engines do have a tendency to torque to one side. Therefore they put offset mounts in that lean the engine slightly to the opposite of its torque push. I could be wrong but this what I have observed and feel it to be a logical conclusion based on the observations of the actual torque of the engines and the fact that they indeed lean to the oposite side. Which most likely would be achieved between a combination of slightly different brackets on each side and offset mounts.

OH and Nissan is not the only Automotive company that does this BMW does it as well on their inline engine setups.

With that said indeed the mounts I sold were offset. Is it super critical? Well they design these things for passenger cars and some kind of longevity, as well as comfort i.e. less vibrations and whatnot.

We are basically putting or cars into a performance segment that usually throws comfort out the window in favor of better performance.

Given that, not having offset mounts is a world ending issue. You can run them and their will be no problems.

I see no problem with it at all.

Oh I should add, those mounts look very well designed and now that its been cleared up that they do not have a solid shaft or connected metal in them, they sound great.

He is talking about the bolts being offset. Not the engine being TQ angled.

Nissan angles their motors mainly for oil drain back. BMW angles their motors to the right for packaging. The Chrysler Slant-6 was angled to the right for the same reason. To the right would make tq shock worse by your math.

Most engines can flip themselves over. TQ angling does little to counter act that load. It's mostly done for packaging and a little for oil draining.

drift freaq · 06-15-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

He is talking about the bolts being offset. Not the engine being TQ angled.

Nissan angles their motors mainly for oil drain back. BMW angles their motors to the right for packaging. The Chrysler Slant-6 was angled to the right for the same reason. To the right would make tq shock worse by your math.

Most engines can flip themselves over. TQ angling does little to counter act that load. It's mostly done for packaging and a little for oil draining.

hmm interesting points S14DB never thought about it that way. I was talking about the reason for the bolts being offset though. Maybe I have drawn a wrong conclusion here.

***S14DB*** · 06-15-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

hmm interesting points S14DB never thought about it that way. I was talking about the reason for the bolts being offset though. Maybe I have drawn a wrong conclusion here.

If anything they move the engine to sit at an angle not inline with the chassis front to back. The stock drivers side the engine stud is behind the chassis stud and the passenger is in front of the chassis stud. Probably less than a degree but would create enough U joint rotation to be effective.

This is an old trick to remove drive line NHV. As things that are not inline can not develop sympathetic vibrations. Chrysler moves the engine 1.250 inches towards the passenger side. Ford and Chevy move the engine above or below the differential.

drift freaq · 06-15-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

If anything they move the engine to sit at an angle not inline with the chassis front to back. The stock drivers side the engine stud is behind the chassis stud and the passenger is in front of the chassis stud. Probably less than a degree but would create enough U joint rotation to be effective.

This is an old trick to remove drive line NHV. As things that are not inline can not develop sympathetic vibrations. Chrysler moves the engine 1.250 inches towards the passenger side. Ford and Chevy move the engine above or below the differential.

This makes complete sense. S14DB I think you have nailed it.

sr20boostn20 · 06-15-2009, 04:38 PM

im currently running avid solids on the motor and the tranny, they make the motor sit a little high. i ve been dealing with it alright,

I like soild mounts better than stock or nismo,

Its no fun if you cant feel the car,

uriel · 06-21-2009, 08:50 AM

so with those ultra mounts, what kind of vibration levels are we looking at? i tried to find something about it in this thread, but i had trouble seeing through the flames...

HYPNOTIK · 06-21-2009, 11:56 AM

Uriel, check out my car sometime. It vibrates but it's not annoying like the solid mounts.

nissansrdub · 06-23-2009, 08:47 PM

i bought some like that from a guy on nicoclub and when i tightened the bolts it pulled the stud out of the mount... i say a thumbs down for this type of mount

MotorMounts · 07-01-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nissansrdub

i bought some like that from a guy on nicoclub and when i tightened the bolts it pulled the stud out of the mount... i say a thumbs down for this type of mount

This post is exactly why I've taken some time away from this forum. Ultra Mounts are being slammed by someone that had a bad experience with motor mounts that "they think" are the same as ours. Unless the bad mounts had an "Ultra Mounts" label on them they weren't ours. This is why we label our mounts, so you know what you have, not a "soup can" mount made by someone that has no idea what they are doing. Ya know, it's funny, if you go back a few pages in this thread, we even get slammed for labeling our mounts.

clark · 07-01-2009, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MotorMounts

This post is exactly why I've taken some time away from this forum. Ultra Mounts are being slammed by someone that had a bad experience with motor mounts that "they think" are the same as ours. Unless the bad mounts had an "Ultra Mounts" label on them they weren't ours. This is why we label our mounts, so you know what you have, not a "soup can" mount made by someone that has no idea what they are doing. Ya know, it's funny, if you go back a few pages in this thread, we even get slammed for labeling our mounts.

^^ hey i just picked up some of your mounts (ebay name clark_bar_2000), and holy hell how do you ship them so fast!!!! i've not installed them yet, but the these things are beefy. just feeling them in my hands i can feel the quality, and the studs that are in the mount are very high quality hardened steel from my observations.

I'm installing them hopefully this weekend.

If the quality of these mounts are at the same level of service and same speed as the shipping, I will be all grins during the test drive!

EDIT: oh yeah, the height of the ultra mounts is the SAME EXACT as my 16 year old stock mounts. 2.5 inches.

MotorMounts · 07-01-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by clark

^^ hey i just picked up some of your mounts (ebay name clark_bar_2000), and holy hell how do you ship them so fast!!!! i've not installed them yet, but the these things are beefy. just feeling them in my hands i can feel the quality, and the studs that are in the mount are very high quality hardened steel from my observations.

I'm installing them hopefully this weekend.

If the quality of these mounts are at the same level of service and same speed as the shipping, I will be all grins during the test drive!

EDIT: oh yeah, the height of the ultra mounts is the SAME EXACT as my 16 year old stock mounts. 2.5 inches.

Clark, I read your mind and shipped the mounts before you even bought them, they were half way there when you bought them. Seriously, when you buy something and it takes along time to get it, it is almost never the shipping company, it's the company that you bought it from taking their sweet ass time putting it in the mail. At UPS, FedEx, USPS, etc. the packages must go out as fast as they come in or they will pile up. They are in the shipping business, not the storage business. We do not "sit" on orders like most other companies. The order comes in, the order goes out.
You are correct, the mounts are beefy and the quality of the mount even surpasses the speed of our shipping. Please run the mounts as hard as you like and give a review here on the forum. I guarantee you will be all grins after the test drive and for a long time to come.
Just for every ones info, we just finished our first batch of billet aluminum solid trans mounts. They are $45, which includes freight.
Clark, thanks for taking the time to post, Max

nissansrdub · 07-03-2009, 02:13 PM

ok motormounts... how about you send out a couple samples to some zilvia members to test them out then take their feed backs... good idea!!! lol

***S14DB*** · 07-03-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nissansrdub

ok motormounts... how about you send out a couple samples to some zilvia members to test them out then take their feed backs... good idea!!! lol

Wow, you're a real cheap bastard. Did you even read the thread?

I still say rainbow sparkles.

GSXRJJordan · 07-03-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

Wow, you're a real cheap bastard. Did you even read the thread?

I still say rainbow sparkles.

Agreed on both counts.

I actually primered/painted my poly-filled mounts, and hit them with a couple layers of rainbow sparkle lol.

nothix · 07-03-2009, 10:42 PM

Ordered the ultra mounts, lets see how they work...

HYPNOTIK · 07-03-2009, 11:32 PM

I've been running these mounts hard for almost 2 months now and I love them. I went to a track day today and have no complaints, throttle response is awesome.

06-14-2009, 12:16 PM	#61
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	The mounts I sold, also lowered the engine compared to the Nismo. Nismo mounts sit notoriously high. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

06-14-2009, 04:38 PM	#63
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	But the thing with Nismo is that after a year or 2, fucker starts feeling like my old worn stockers. Thats why I tell folks, dont bother with Nismo mounts... __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

06-14-2009, 04:54 PM	#64
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	MotorMounts, I'm actually in the market for new mounts and am considering Peak Performance as my next setup. I definitely would not mind running your mounts and give an unbiased review. I daily and track the car so I can easily review on both aspects of driving. Plus, in the end, I can ship them back. I'm not in search of a freedbie, would just like a test sample. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-14-2009, 11:24 PM	#68
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	^ That's a great option as well. I'll definitely keep that offer in mind. Thank you. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-15-2009, 10:56 AM	#72
DALAZ_68 not giving a fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los angeles Age: 35 Posts: 15,080 Trader Rating: (104) Feedback Score: 104 reviews	from what im gathering heres the gist... if ur running nismo mounts with stock hood...0 issues aftermarket hood (like say Dmax) + nismo mounts = no bueno these ebay mounts + aftermarket hood =???? my question would also be, what about height, i mean from what i recall the stock mounts/nismo mounts, have different height per side...expecially the CA, which gives it the ganster lean i come to love, is that incorporated into these ebay mounts, or are they flat out one set height? __________________ LOL 240... whats better than 1? 5 1's ...lol PSN & XBL GT : Wh0pp3r68 CLUB LEXUS : Wh0pp3r

06-15-2009, 01:50 PM	#73
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 36 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Using high quality polyurethane and our custom billet brackets, we have designed our own heavy duty MMs. This design will not seperate like stock type mounts but will provide less vibration than solid designs and is designed with the the stock offset for just like stock fitment. Also more economical than other mounts on the market. Only one small modification is required, the engine to MM bracket hole must be drilled out to 7/16" (11mm). This is very easy and can be done without removing the brackets.Pics of mounts installed 1 (pardon the dirt)Pics of mounts installed 2 (pardon the dirt)Install ID diagramTK218-S $119.99 USD a pair So....Why are we contemplating mounts that dont involve an offset that nissan designed to effective hold the engine in place? Does anybody even understand why there is an offset on the mounting bolts? Why are we totally half assing things, I thought most of zilvia stereotype was about 240 owners cheaping out...however your spending an ammount of money already, only for them to end up in the trash bin because they arent the proper application.

06-15-2009, 04:38 PM	#79
sr20boostn20 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lake Tahoe, CA/ LI NY Age: 34 Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	im currently running avid solids on the motor and the tranny, they make the motor sit a little high. i ve been dealing with it alright, I like soild mounts better than stock or nismo, Its no fun if you cant feel the car,

06-21-2009, 08:50 AM	#80
uriel Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Okinawa Age: 40 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so with those ultra mounts, what kind of vibration levels are we looking at? i tried to find something about it in this thread, but i had trouble seeing through the flames...

06-21-2009, 11:56 AM	#81
HYPNOTIK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pisa, Italy Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Uriel, check out my car sometime. It vibrates but it's not annoying like the solid mounts. __________________

06-23-2009, 08:47 PM	#82
nissansrdub Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 500 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i bought some like that from a guy on nicoclub and when i tightened the bolts it pulled the stud out of the mount... i say a thumbs down for this type of mount

07-03-2009, 02:13 PM	#86
nissansrdub Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 500 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	ok motormounts... how about you send out a couple samples to some zilvia members to test them out then take their feed backs... good idea!!! lol

07-03-2009, 10:42 PM	#89
nothix Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 200 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Ordered the ultra mounts, lets see how they work...

07-03-2009, 11:32 PM	#90
HYPNOTIK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pisa, Italy Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I've been running these mounts hard for almost 2 months now and I love them. I went to a track day today and have no complaints, throttle response is awesome. __________________

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