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tunermt · 07-12-2011, 05:39 PM

While working with Full Race and Borg Warner I was lucky enough to do some early testing on one of the efr 6258 turbos. Here is a brief description of the car and some short vids enjoy.

sohc ka24-t
Tested a Borg Warner EFR series turbo 6258
AEM EMS Brewed tune
V mount IC and pwr radiator set up
Custom Full Race Manifold and Down pipe
8gal. fuel cell
Extra special JIC coils valved by Jon him self
all adjustable control arms
s14 5 lug set up
300zx front brakes
custom rear sub frame
NRG deep dish steering wheel
Enkei RPF1's 18x10.5 15mm front 3mm spacer and rear 25mm spacer

YouTube - ‪Brewed Motorsports S13 ka-t Borg Warner EFR turbo testing 6258 AEM EMS tuning‬&rlm;

YouTube - ‪Brewed Motorsports Borg Warner efr turbo track testing‬&rlm;

Big thanks goes out to every one at: Full Race, JIC, AEM, Enkei, Borg Warner!

tunermt · 07-12-2011, 05:50 PM

hm you tube bb code not working for some reason?

s15lover · 07-15-2011, 09:21 AM

great production, however pertinent info would be appreciated by all, like what were your spool times versus your previous setup, dyno graphs, etc. As you know alot of people are on the fence about these turbos, I expected to see some comparison info. Definitely can appreciate the riff on the second vid...good song.

OkiDori17 · 07-15-2011, 12:50 PM

yeah im looking into the 7064 for my sr build...id like to see some spool times and comparisons to your other setup as well =]

PoorMans180SX · 07-15-2011, 12:52 PM

Even just a picture of the engine bay/turbo setup would be nice.

jr_ss · 07-15-2011, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s15lover

pertinent info would be appreciated by all, like what were your spool times versus your previous setup, dyno graphs, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Even just a picture of the engine bay/turbo setup would be nice.

No, No, can't do that... It's G35 Classified!

Def · 07-15-2011, 04:29 PM

Seems to be the case with most EFR builds when they really don't outpeform the GT/GTX stuff.

Om1kron · 07-15-2011, 04:51 PM

I'll check this out later, but I don't expect anything ground breaking from a motor probably 5 people care about.

jr_ss · 07-15-2011, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Def

Seems to be the case with most EFR builds when they really don't outpeform the GT/GTX stuff.

Def, can you please elaborate? I've heard claims that they spool "faster" and "out-flow" a similar sized GT/GTX series turbo... I find it hard to believe, however I believe they do have better wheel material on the exhaust side of the turbo.

Om1kron · 07-15-2011, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_ss

Def, can you please elaborate? I've heard claims that they spool "faster" and "out-flow" a similar sized GT/GTX series turbo... I find it hard to believe, however I believe they do have better wheel material on the exhaust side of the turbo.

At this point in time the data is not efficient enough for anyone to elaborate. We keep getting the run around from people who say they're going to provide this and that.

So the OP's car for instance is a KA-T. A single cam KA24 at that.

Who else do you know is fixing to buy a garret gtx to throw it on a ka24 with a similar ems setup as the OP then number crunch?

Then factor in different dynos, locations, etc.

All anyone can do is armchair elaborate until Full-Race steps up and does the testing and shares the results themselves rather than sharing great you tube videos of how awesome the turbo is.

I still plan on getting one regardless. But asking for anyones input on the matter at this point is irrelevant.

GabeS14 · 07-15-2011, 06:58 PM

There are threads in other forums comparing the two turbos with specific number and data on spool time and power output. I'll add the links when I get home tomorrow, in both instances the EFR outperformed the gtx
I believe they tested 3 different versions on the EFR against it's counterparts.

tunermt · 07-16-2011, 01:03 PM

I'll be posting up all the data and results as soon as the car is back in action (cosmetic repairs) Sorry I didn't have it to post at the same time as the videos, i know there are a grip of people hungry for good EFR data and results!

darkevildrifter · 07-16-2011, 01:13 PM

Ive got a GTX w/ Tial vband turbo so lick my anus!

GabeS14 · 07-16-2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkevildrifter

Ive got a GTX w/ Tial vband turbo so lick my anus!

if you ask like that, then sure..lol
hehe you got the turbo you wanted lol, it'll still be sick, but I warned you about the performance thing and the savings you could have by not having to run external bov and waistgate

tunermt · 07-18-2011, 02:09 AM

xpertsnowcarver · 07-18-2011, 02:16 AM

Well this thread is completely useless so far... I don't care to see another drift video with fancy camera shots.. When I read "Borg Warner EFR turbo testing on Brewed S13 KA-t", I expect some data and numbers of said "turbo testing".

jr_ss · 07-18-2011, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpertsnowcarver

Well this thread is completely useless so far... I don't care to see another drift video with fancy camera shots.. When I read "Borg Warner EFR turbo testing on Brewed S13 KA-t", I expect some data and numbers of said "turbo testing".

Quoted for the truth... Who cares about your paint scheme, we want data... We want to see a dyno with the amount of power it did or didn't make. So far I'm going to stick with my GTX3076R.

tunermt · 07-19-2011, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tunermt

I'll be posting up all the data and results as soon as the car is back in action (cosmetic repairs) Sorry I didn't have it to post at the same time as the videos, i know there are a grip of people hungry for good EFR data and results!

By all means i'm not here to say the EFR is gods gift to turbos and everyone should switch to BW by any means

just wanted to post up what i had to offer as i know there isn't much out on the EFR's quite yet.

I will actually more than likely be using a GT28 on this set up again and the EFR will find it's way onto a SR. Either way i'll have dyno graphs and AEM data logs shortly.

natejackson · 01-06-2012, 07:51 PM

Keep this BREWED shit popin dogg!

07-12-2011, 05:39 PM	#1
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Borg Warner EFR turbo testing on Brewed S13 KA-t While working with Full Race and Borg Warner I was lucky enough to do some early testing on one of the efr 6258 turbos. Here is a brief description of the car and some short vids enjoy. sohc ka24-t Tested a Borg Warner EFR series turbo 6258 AEM EMS Brewed tune V mount IC and pwr radiator set up Custom Full Race Manifold and Down pipe 8gal. fuel cell Extra special JIC coils valved by Jon him self all adjustable control arms s14 5 lug set up 300zx front brakes custom rear sub frame NRG deep dish steering wheel Enkei RPF1's 18x10.5 15mm front 3mm spacer and rear 25mm spacer YouTube - ‪Brewed Motorsports S13 ka-t Borg Warner EFR turbo testing 6258 AEM EMS tuning‬&rlm; YouTube - ‪Brewed Motorsports Borg Warner efr turbo track testing‬&rlm; Big thanks goes out to every one at: Full Race, JIC, AEM, Enkei, Borg Warner! __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

07-12-2011, 05:50 PM	#2
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hm you tube bb code not working for some reason? __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

07-15-2011, 12:50 PM	#4
OkiDori17 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Columbus, GA Posts: 373 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	yeah im looking into the 7064 for my sr build...id like to see some spool times and comparisons to your other setup as well =] __________________ '92 240sx w/'93 SR Blacktop /// '94 RX7 FD3S /// '11 370z RIP

07-15-2011, 12:52 PM	#5
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Even just a picture of the engine bay/turbo setup would be nice. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

07-15-2011, 04:29 PM	#7
Def Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,701 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Seems to be the case with most EFR builds when they really don't outpeform the GT/GTX stuff. __________________ S13 Hatch - Goes around tracks quickly DEFSPORT

07-15-2011, 09:21 AM	#3
s15lover Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Knoxville/Seattle Age: 37 Posts: 484 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	great production, however pertinent info would be appreciated by all, like what were your spool times versus your previous setup, dyno graphs, etc. As you know alot of people are on the fence about these turbos, I expected to see some comparison info. Definitely can appreciate the riff on the second vid...good song.

07-15-2011, 04:51 PM	#8
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 6,879 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	I'll check this out later, but I don't expect anything ground breaking from a motor probably 5 people care about. __________________ Wayne

07-15-2011, 06:58 PM	#11
GabeS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sin City Las Vegas Posts: 4,521 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: GabeS14 Feedback Score: 27 reviews	There are threads in other forums comparing the two turbos with specific number and data on spool time and power output. I'll add the links when I get home tomorrow, in both instances the EFR outperformed the gtx I believe they tested 3 different versions on the EFR against it's counterparts. __________________ E92 M3 19" wheels for sale///JWT Cams and Springs +30whp for sale... cheap.

07-16-2011, 01:03 PM	#12
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll be posting up all the data and results as soon as the car is back in action (cosmetic repairs) Sorry I didn't have it to post at the same time as the videos, i know there are a grip of people hungry for good EFR data and results! __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

07-16-2011, 01:13 PM	#13
darkevildrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: City of Buttholes!!!!!!!!!!! Age: 38 Posts: 724 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Ive got a GTX w/ Tial vband turbo so lick my anus! __________________

07-18-2011, 02:09 AM	#15
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	__________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

07-18-2011, 02:16 AM	#16
xpertsnowcarver Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA, CA Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	Well this thread is completely useless so far... I don't care to see another drift video with fancy camera shots.. When I read "Borg Warner EFR turbo testing on Brewed S13 KA-t", I expect some data and numbers of said "turbo testing". __________________ My YouTube Channel

01-06-2012, 07:51 PM	#19
natejackson Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: BMT Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Keep this BREWED shit popin dogg!

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