twotoes

this sucks, but Honda DOES actually offer fun cars....

not sure if any of u have ever driven a new civic si or rsx-s but they are hella fun and the k series has hella potential. (oh god im gonna get yelled at.)

s2k has been around for awhile yeah, but its proven performance.

oh yeah and the TL and TSX are pretty freakin sweet too.

I think this is a smart decision by honda and im sure it will be back when this financial crisis shit is over.

Honda dropped f1 and the nsx, subaru and suzuki dropped WRC, I think if companies dont drop these type of things during troubled times its just stupid.

OptionZero

RSX-S = no LSD

Civic SI = too expensive for a civic, although it does look kinda neat

S2k = old

TL = gawdawful ugly

TSX = improved looks, reduced sportiness

Matej

Let's hope the "Big Three" drop Nascar.

K_style

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LongGrain

actually dodge is cancelling the viper...

muddafakka

The Civic Si is a pretty nice car but Honda needs moar RWD/sport compactyness in their lineup.

K-series motors are awesome. They def. have potential.

New Civics are kinda expensive though. That's my only gripe.

And the fact that they look good sometimes and other times I think otherwise.

RSX is no more, I liked them though.

S2000 are fun cars to drive, handle very well, blah blah blah. Replacement should be a coupe, less expensive, and have more low end torque.

TL/TSX were cool cars until they got redesign into polished pieces of shit. Have you seen the new '09s or whatever? They are fucking gross. Older ones were sweet though.

Acura took their only turbo motor and crammed it into an SUV or crossover or whatever the hell it was.

WORST MISTAKE EVAR.

Honda needs to throw that motor into a car.

S14DB

Mine has like 3 outside and 1 inside. I don't think I ever saw them move all the times I picked up / dropped off my friend there.


The demand for high end cars is not there right now. Just makes good business sense. Unlike the big 3 that makes Trucks and SUV's that no one wants.

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mrflip69

Hyundai... could've just made a decent Tiburon.

Honda... needs to bring back an RSX/Integra type... the new Civic SI is.. meh. I don't think they ever really got too far in the NSX production. You see the test mule? Pretty much a hard top S2K. (I know it's on a new platform, but if you've been following, they really haven't made much progress, although it still is a bit late). For them to go FR, I'm not surprised they backed out on the NSX.

Nissan--haha, greedy dealers can eat it, now that those marked up GTRs aren't selling. Shame too, so much for that waiting list.

Gnnr

The Viper actually sells.

Dodge to begin negotiations to sell Viper brand shortly - Autoblog
Viper still selling like hotcakes, ACR sold out - Autoblog

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ayuaddict

i dunno man, im kinda happy driving my old ass cars.

i guess kids when i'm 45 will be driving beat ass Z33s and shit.

The Genesis, pretty damn cool car.

but...4 lug??

edit: uh nvm, most of them are 5 lug, i just saw that one that squidd posted and i guess its a PS.

ronmcdon

Agreed overall, but I actually like the FA/FG Si's a lot. I owned a si sedan for about half a year, until I foolishly got it totaled in an accident recently. It's really not such a bad value at 21k, when you consider it's not that much more expensive than the EX models. Probably cost about the same as a EX w/ navi. It certainly is a better deal than say competitors like the more expensive mini S, mk.5 gti.

Basically it has all the practicality of the EX models, other than a slight dip in mpg. If you've ever driven one with decent tires (some come with all-season from the factory), you find it's exceptionally well balanced and entertaining. Everything from the steering feel, steering precision, brake feedback, shifter feel, is absolutely great. Seats were among the best. ultra-supportive, yet very comfy. i like them better than the recaros on my evo tbh. Suspension was very well sort out. You really have to be driving an Si to be able to appreiciate it well. It shines even further on an autoX course.

With regards to Acura, I just think it's going to be difficult for consumers to see it as an actual luxury marque. If they had gone more all awd with their models, gave it a bit more power, they might have done well. Honda certainly has the technology and know-how to do it. which makes it more the shame that they haven't applied those resources to what they have to offer in their commercial vehicles.

OptionZero

Make the S2000 a hardtop coupe, offer a "Type-R" version with 200lbs less and a little more power (more extreme than that stupid "CR" version, which retains the soft top). Use a little carbon fiber or something.

That would give it the added performance needed to stick with the 370Z.

ayuaddict

they should sell the S2000 with a real hardtop and a S15 SR and call it the type R.

i think that would be a cool car.

punk138

a gang-load of GM FORD and DODGE dealerships already closed down here in san bernardino.

crazy cuz i saw the local mitsubishi go first.

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FRpilot

that's because chevy/dodge can afford to gamble and play/build whatever they want or think is cool (big trucks, suvs, sports cars, non-economical/practical cars), since they will always get bailed out while tax payers get the shaft and pay for their mistakes.

sort of like a spoiled kid who can do whatever they want because mommy and daddy will always be there to bail them out.

if all the c6 z06s are sitting around and zr1 are selling like hotcakes, why don't they just stop producing the regular c6 z06 line and only offer/build the zr1 model that's demanded.



yep, that would practically be the revival of the s-chasis car that we are all waiting for.

(light weight rwd sports coupe with ~250-300hp)

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!Zar!

Too many people complaining about what they want to see.

Yet nobody will have the money/credit to buy it when it comes out.

A majority of the people who buy cars that keep the companies profits up are the people who don't know the difference between one wheel drive and all wheel drive.

People who have never stepped full throttle in their whole adult life.

For a company to pour money into a car that people can't even afford right now would be a HORRIBLE decision.

New silvia? Psch. Sure, it would be cool. But many other cars could be had for around that price range.

That's the whole reason many companies gave up on the rwd platform. Why would someone spend 30k or whatever on a japanese import when they could toss a few more grand down and have a euro car.

Designing new cars just doesn't make sense.

Sure, I'd be happy to see them make new shit. Why, because I'm a guy. But honestly I don't plan on buying it. So why get worked up over it?

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VROOOM

why buy a Civic Si when for the same price you could buy a MS3 or Cobalt SS that will murder the Si for the same price. my MS3 was 23k and it has over 100ft/lbs more torque and 65 more hp stock.

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ZX88

good the new nsx looked like shit anyways and should stay a mr format.

ayuaddict

because...its a MS3 and a cobalt.

i dont even know what a ms3 is...

VROOOM

Mazdaspeed3. the Cobalt has the fastest fwd time around the Nurburgring that why

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S14DB

MPG on a Mazdaspeed3 is horrible for the size.

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VROOOM

everyone says that but i get 20mpg all city driving no freeway. im sure with freeway driving i could get mid to high 20's

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muddafakka

Yeah if I had to choose between a Cobalt SS and a Civic Si I'd go with the Cobalt.

ronmcdon

MS3 typically is another 2-3k more. I actually very much wanted to get this, but the additional costs in insurance, mpg, and msrp made it difficult. I'm sure its a lot more fun to drive, but the Si has better practical qualities in mpg, resale, cheaper insurance rates, and possibly in reliability.

If you already have a faster car and prefer to have something more reliable, practical, yet still fun to drive about, the Si isn't a bad choice. If I was in the market again today to spend 24k on a nice car, practical concerns aside i'd prob opt for the improved 09 wrx.

JRas

NSX is classic, I almost don't want them to make another, in fear they will mess it up

I understand why they would cancel/pause it for now, but I can see them going back to it later.

Nissan Silvia will be good..
Hyundai Genesis looks fairly good, but it has yet to proven itself, plus kinda heavy.

I've always owned old cars, and I've been able to modify them without feeling bad.

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ayuaddict

oh.

haha shows how much i know about current automobiles.

flip3d

+1 for Genesis Coupe.

Will be the FIRST brand new car I ever buy.

David Steele

New briefing : Honda has never called this new V10 awd supercar an NSX .

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beeracing s14

I wonder if Toyota will let loose on pushing to production a new Supra that they call Lexus LFA?