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wootwoot · 01-27-2007, 08:49 PM

Any reason you can think of hatches having a benefit? I would imagine it adding to the CG and whatnot

SimpleS14 · 01-27-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wootwoot

Any reason you can think of hatches having a benefit? I would imagine it adding to the CG and whatnot

Aerodynamics maybe?

BOROSUN · 01-27-2007, 09:30 PM

i read this http://www.worldrallychampionship.ne...?id_display=19

Bodyshell
The new Ford Focus RS WRC 06 is based on the Focus ST road car. It is larger than its predecessor, presenting engineers with the challenge of keeping overall weight increase to a minimum. In addition, the new car's width is 1800mm, the precise maximum specified under World Rally Car regulations.

"We liaised closely with Ford TeamRS on the shell," said Loriaux. "We used the ADAMS software model to help with our initial design and that allowed us to experiment with the car's layout and see how changes to one specific component might affect the other parts. We also worked hard on the aerodynamic side, because the new car has a larger frontal area. We tried to compensate for this as much as possible and to reduce drag on faster sections. On the other hand, the more steeply-sloped rear hatch of the new car plays back into our hands, in terms of making the rear wing more efficient."

*exitspeed* · 01-29-2007, 10:42 AM

To add some more fuel to the fire:

Autocar is reporting that Subaru will volly a strike against Mitsubishi in early April when it debuts the all-new Impreza at the New York Auto Show. The body style will be a five-door hatchback with styling similar to that of the B5 TPH concept that first appeared last year in Tokyo. Power will reportedly come from your choice of a 1.5L or 2.0L flat-four boxer engine. Autocar's shocker is that the popular WRX model that slots between the everyday Imprezas and the high performance STi model will be cancelled, and that we won't see the new STi until 2008. Autocar doesn't cite its source for this information, and it seems highly unlikely to us considering that Mitsubishi is planning to make its Lancer Ralliart more powerful than previous generations in an effort to face the WRX head on. All will be revealed in the Big Apple come April, but for now we sit and wait.

Neejay · 01-29-2007, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

To add some more fuel to the fire:

Autocar is reporting that Subaru will volly a strike against Mitsubishi in early April when it debuts the all-new Impreza at the New York Auto Show. The body style will be a five-door hatchback with styling similar to that of the B5 TPH concept that first appeared last year in Tokyo. Power will reportedly come from your choice of a 1.5L or 2.0L flat-four boxer engine. Autocar's shocker is that the popular WRX model that slots between the everyday Imprezas and the high performance STi model will be cancelled, and that we won't see the new STi until 2008. Autocar doesn't cite its source for this information, and it seems highly unlikely to us considering that Mitsubishi is planning to make its Lancer Ralliart more powerful than previous generations in an effort to face the WRX head on. All will be revealed in the Big Apple come April, but for now we sit and wait.

Wait wait wait...

So they're saying according to their source, the WRX will be cancelled? And there will only be a 1.5L RS and a 2.0L RS with the new STi debuting in 2008?

I highly doubt that...that'd be a stupid move on Subaru's part in my opinion...

WILDACEX187 · 01-29-2007, 11:27 AM

thats bs. the wrx sells alot more than the sti anyway and as the article said, mitsu is making a turbo awd lacer under the evo. i'll be sure to go to the auto show and check it out

*exitspeed* · 01-29-2007, 11:38 AM

Both Autoblog and Autocar are relyable sources. We'll have to wait and see huh? Interesting...

Oh and here's the concept that it is to be styled after.

fohahz · 02-01-2007, 10:27 AM

damn that subie hatch looks really nice

axiomatik · 02-01-2007, 11:55 AM

really??? i think it looks cheap and ugly.

WILDACEX187 · 02-01-2007, 12:22 PM

well i hope its cheap (in price) but its nice looking to me (one on first page of course)

VROOOM · 02-01-2007, 12:43 PM

that subaru concept is disgusting.

*NemeGuero* · 02-01-2007, 12:47 PM

I like the WRX hatch.. looks rally like the Peugot 206.

the new EVO looks like a Mazda 6 and an early 90's dodge neon had sex.

SimpleS14 · 02-01-2007, 06:20 PM

Damn that concept car is ugly. Here is a prototype of the Subie: http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enth...78.A11818.html

hendogg8 · 02-02-2007, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RiversideS13

my friend showed me this picture, i dont know if it is legit or not

That looks really, really close to the pics of the impreza in the spy shots in the link above^^^

I wouldn't be surprised if that pic is indeed legit. The new design looks more tame and generic.

Revolver Ocelot · 02-02-2007, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WILDACEX187

evo 9 8 and 7 look too much alike. i love the evo 5 which is my favorite

Of course they look the same. Just like the Evo 1,2 and 3 pretty much looked the same and the evo 4,5 and 6 basically were the same looks wise.

I think both concepts are ugly IMHO. I just havent been able to find a new design that i actually like from any car manufacture lately.

And if subaru kills the WRX line in America it will be one of the stupidest moves they could make. Especially since you see alot more WRXs on the road compared to STIs. And the fact that mitsu is beefing up their ralliart to compete with the WRX.

hendogg8 · 02-02-2007, 03:43 AM

Here is another pic of the possible upcoming WRX that I saw recently.

s13gold · 02-04-2007, 05:20 PM

subeeeeeeee.ftw.

*exitspeed* · 02-15-2007, 12:37 PM

Quick update from Autoblog.

Everyone thought the rumor that Subaru would be dropping its popular WRX model when it launches a redesigned Impreza was bunk. The rumor originated with an article by Autocar that stated Subaru had "no plans to carry over the intermediate WRX model." Michael McHale, Subaru's Director of Corporate Communications, got in touch with Autoblog to let us know that the WRX is safe and will be present after the relaunch of the redesigned Impreza. Those worrying that the Impreza will only be offered as a five-door hatchback in the future can rest easy, too. Sedan variants will be offered, presumably along with the five-door hatchback we've seen in spy shots. We still expect to see the new Impreza at the New York Auto Show in early April, though it's unclear whether or not Subaru will follow Mitsubishi's lead and introduce only the standard models before trotting out the hotted up WRX and STi variants. We'll be on hand in the Big Apple to let you know from the show floor.

PoorMans180SX · 02-15-2007, 01:53 PM

Does anyone see the similarities between the Evo X and the Acura TL? I hate that line on the Evo, although the newest "concept" looks better than the first:

Neejay · 02-15-2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Quick update from Autoblog.

Everyone thought the rumor that Subaru would be dropping its popular WRX model when it launches a redesigned Impreza was bunk. The rumor originated with an article by Autocar that stated Subaru had "no plans to carry over the intermediate WRX model." Michael McHale, Subaru's Director of Corporate Communications, got in touch with Autoblog to let us know that the WRX is safe and will be present after the relaunch of the redesigned Impreza. Those worrying that the Impreza will only be offered as a five-door hatchback in the future can rest easy, too. Sedan variants will be offered, presumably along with the five-door hatchback we've seen in spy shots. We still expect to see the new Impreza at the New York Auto Show in early April, though it's unclear whether or not Subaru will follow Mitsubishi's lead and introduce only the standard models before trotting out the hotted up WRX and STi variants. We'll be on hand in the Big Apple to let you know from the show floor.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Thank you sir!

*exitspeed* · 03-27-2007, 07:49 AM

OK here it is. The new WRX.

Let's discuss.

*tacotacotaco* · 03-27-2007, 07:58 AM

Interesting i dont know how it makes me feel. Looks very spartan on the interior but then again its a base wrx. Anyword if a 2 door was going to be offered?

*exitspeed* · 03-27-2007, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kndacomplx

Interesting i dont know how it makes me feel. Looks very spartan on the interior but then again its a base wrx. Anyword if a 2 door was going to be offered?

Nope. This is from Motor Trend magazine and was debuted ahead of schedule. We'll get more details at next months New York Auto Show.

nlzmo400r · 03-27-2007, 08:26 AM

i dont know if they could have f*k'd that car up anymore than they did

fromxtor · 03-27-2007, 09:28 AM

I got to see the "lancer" at a local auto show and It didnt impress me. So I have a feeling if the EVO is along the same lines I really wont like it either. I seems way too big.

s14dude · 03-27-2007, 11:28 AM

Those pix from Motor Trend are 100% Authentic. i have seen the car in person. yes i am one of only 15 people in the world to actually see the car pre-production and pre-release!! so i can vouch for those pictures.

i dont know the specs on it however.

*exitspeed* · 03-27-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14dude

Those pix from Motor Trend are 100% Authentic. i have seen the car in person. yes i am one of only 15 people in the world to actually see the car pre-production and pre-release!! so i can vouch for those pictures.

i dont know the specs on it however.

Did you by chance tell them how ugly it was?

SimpleS14 · 03-27-2007, 08:03 PM

I think it would look nice if they did something with the grille and front bumper.

STi might look better.....maybe

axiomatik · 03-27-2007, 09:52 PM

wow that is ugly, what a disappointment. the grill is horrific an the back end reminds me of the daewoo hatchback they sold for a while, forget what it was called. or maybe a lexus rx330, which also looks like crap.

Frosty_spl · 03-27-2007, 09:57 PM

yea its such a letdown, so watered down and crappy.

I like my subarus to have a "nose", made them distinctly awesome.

EVOX FTW!!!! That car is dope!

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wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 35 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Any reason you can think of hatches having a benefit? I would imagine it adding to the CG and whatnot __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

01-29-2007, 10:42 AM	#94
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	To add some more fuel to the fire: Autocar is reporting that Subaru will volly a strike against Mitsubishi in early April when it debuts the all-new Impreza at the New York Auto Show. The body style will be a five-door hatchback with styling similar to that of the B5 TPH concept that first appeared last year in Tokyo. Power will reportedly come from your choice of a 1.5L or 2.0L flat-four boxer engine. Autocar's shocker is that the popular WRX model that slots between the everyday Imprezas and the high performance STi model will be cancelled, and that we won't see the new STi until 2008. Autocar doesn't cite its source for this information, and it seems highly unlikely to us considering that Mitsubishi is planning to make its Lancer Ralliart more powerful than previous generations in an effort to face the WRX head on. All will be revealed in the Big Apple come April, but for now we sit and wait. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

01-29-2007, 11:27 AM	#96
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 38 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	thats bs. the wrx sells alot more than the sti anyway and as the article said, mitsu is making a turbo awd lacer under the evo. i'll be sure to go to the auto show and check it out __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

01-29-2007, 11:38 AM	#97
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Both Autoblog and Autocar are relyable sources. We'll have to wait and see huh? Interesting... Oh and here's the concept that it is to be styled after. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

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fohahz Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: CA, SFV Posts: 51 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	damn that subie hatch looks really nice __________________ Are you a parking ticket?..Because you got FINE written all over you.

01-27-2007, 09:30 PM	#93
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i read this http://www.worldrallychampionship.ne...?id_display=19 Bodyshell The new Ford Focus RS WRC 06 is based on the Focus ST road car. It is larger than its predecessor, presenting engineers with the challenge of keeping overall weight increase to a minimum. In addition, the new car's width is 1800mm, the precise maximum specified under World Rally Car regulations. "We liaised closely with Ford TeamRS on the shell," said Loriaux. "We used the ADAMS software model to help with our initial design and that allowed us to experiment with the car's layout and see how changes to one specific component might affect the other parts. We also worked hard on the aerodynamic side, because the new car has a larger frontal area. We tried to compensate for this as much as possible and to reduce drag on faster sections. On the other hand, the more steeply-sloped rear hatch of the new car plays back into our hands, in terms of making the rear wing more efficient."

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axiomatik Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 4,697 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	really??? i think it looks cheap and ugly. __________________

02-01-2007, 12:22 PM	#100
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 38 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	well i hope its cheap (in price) but its nice looking to me (one on first page of course) __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

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VROOOM Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LONG BEACH Posts: 2,713 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: VROOOM Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that subaru concept is disgusting.

02-01-2007, 12:47 PM	#102
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SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 38 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Damn that concept car is ugly. Here is a prototype of the Subie: http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enth...78.A11818.html __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

02-02-2007, 03:43 AM	#106
hendogg8 Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: norcal Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here is another pic of the possible upcoming WRX that I saw recently.

02-04-2007, 05:20 PM	#107
s13gold Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CARSON Posts: 4,240 Trader Rating: (79) Feedback Score: 79 reviews	subeeeeeeee.ftw.

02-15-2007, 12:37 PM	#108
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Quick update from Autoblog. Everyone thought the rumor that Subaru would be dropping its popular WRX model when it launches a redesigned Impreza was bunk. The rumor originated with an article by Autocar that stated Subaru had "no plans to carry over the intermediate WRX model." Michael McHale, Subaru's Director of Corporate Communications, got in touch with Autoblog to let us know that the WRX is safe and will be present after the relaunch of the redesigned Impreza. Those worrying that the Impreza will only be offered as a five-door hatchback in the future can rest easy, too. Sedan variants will be offered, presumably along with the five-door hatchback we've seen in spy shots. We still expect to see the new Impreza at the New York Auto Show in early April, though it's unclear whether or not Subaru will follow Mitsubishi's lead and introduce only the standard models before trotting out the hotted up WRX and STi variants. We'll be on hand in the Big Apple to let you know from the show floor. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

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03-27-2007, 07:49 AM	#111
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	OK here it is. The new WRX. Let's discuss. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

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tacotacotaco Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GRRRVINE!!! Age: 38 Posts: 3,247 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: tacotacotaco Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Interesting i dont know how it makes me feel. Looks very spartan on the interior but then again its a base wrx. Anyword if a 2 door was going to be offered?

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SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 38 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think it would look nice if they did something with the grille and front bumper. STi might look better.....maybe __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

03-27-2007, 09:52 PM	#119
axiomatik Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 4,697 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow that is ugly, what a disappointment. the grill is horrific an the back end reminds me of the daewoo hatchback they sold for a while, forget what it was called. or maybe a lexus rx330, which also looks like crap. __________________

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Frosty_spl Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ATL Age: 40 Posts: 268 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yea its such a letdown, so watered down and crappy. I like my subarus to have a "nose", made them distinctly awesome. EVOX FTW!!!! That car is dope! __________________

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