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Old 06-10-2004, 02:15 PM   #61
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westboroughpimp. Sorry for being an ass. But you pissed me off. Im just tired of all your shit talking, You do have some good points, and i agree with most of them, lets just put this out to pasture, because all this bikering does is make people in nor cal look like crybaby bitches like you. Anyways, where the fuck do you come off saying im a rich whiteboy? I have built all of my cars myself, built all my own motors, everything. And im so not rich that im usually stuck eating cup of noodles for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Just becuase im a white guy with a nice car doesnt mean that i just paid someone to build it for me, or just bought it at the S14.5 car dealership in never never land.

+ How in the fuck can you say that? when your the one who just goes out and buys a car thats allready built, You didnt do a goddam thing to that car and you overpaid for it. I would never buy a car thats allready built, or atleast if i did i would change everything about it, to make it my car. I hate people like you who give the sport and the sceen a bad name, Ohh and remember when i helped you over the phone with your boost controller?
I didnt need to do that, i just did to be nice to georgia. I spent alot of time on the phone with you, and assuming that thing was installed properly i told you accurate tuning information, The only thing in fact that made me not like you was what georgia told me you said about me after i tried to help you.
she said that you said " That guy Luke isnt very helpful and doesnt really know anything, he was just a big waste of time." thats what made me not like you. YOU ARE THE DUMBASS WHO COULDNT FIGURE OUT THE FREAKING VACUME LINES WERE BACKWARDS.

And I have NEVER crashed ANY of my drift cars, unlike you.
Now lets stop this fucking bickering before it gets ugly.
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alright dude. thanks for personally attacking me you fuckin jackass. Calling me a crybaby bitch. And you tell me to stop bickering after you post that. rrright.

O and i do remember when you spent all of 5 minutes with me on the phone. No you didnt help with with a damn thing. You just brushed me off like an asshole and if you call that being nice you're hella stuck up. You said turn the gain up and call me back. That's the only help you gave me. thanks a lot. And i NEVER told Georgia you didnt know anything OR it was a big waste of time. I just told her i felt like your were brushing me off. So you were fed false information. Sorry.

And overpaying for the car...yeah i did. And i knew it before i bought it. And i told Georgia i was giving her more for it than it was worth, but i trusted her and i payed for peace of mind.I didnt want to haggle with her over it, i just told her to throw in the c/f hood. And calling me a dumbass cause i "couldnt figure out the vacuum lines were backwards" Are you serious? didnt i tell you that i figured out the vacuum lines were wrong? As soon as i got a hold of the instruction manual i could tell it was incorrect. I wasnt the one that installed it. i just fixed it. I will PM you about this one cause i have to get it off my chest but i wont do it on a public forum.

So i thought you were rich.. it was just your attitude. Most rich whiteboys i know act like you. I guess you are just snobby. And so what? I called you "rich" ooooo. you fuckin came out swingin you stupid pretty boy bitch. see talking shit is easy, but disprove anything i said in my posts. i just post the truth. you are the shit talker.

And i dont know why i'm about to say this..i shouldnt compliment you cause it will stick your head even further up your ass..so far that you may never be able to pull it back out. But you were the best drifter out there..how come you didnt win the competition...i dont even remember seeing your car towards the end. . o and let's stop the bickering before it gets ugly.. lol. dumbass
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1. Al who could love an ugly mug such as yourself besides yourself... lolz...

2. Yes I think most of us are sitting here cracking up as we type. I know that when I crack jokes or make bad comments usually I'm just messing around.

3. Blu808... I live on Campbell and Union really close to the Pruneyard... Hit me up...

4. Varr... I told you when you told me that something was wrong that mostly likely they hooked the vacum lines wrong.

5. Everyone stop your damn bickering before I have to start regulating on all your arses... lolz...

6. those are my several cents.... and I think that covers all the questions and comments... lolz.
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Yo, pms sent. And ask anyone, i dont have my head up my ass, all i do is help people and fix other peoples cars, its fun. I didnt compete that day because i was an instructor that day, I was just giving others rides to help them out. It was really fun to see them doing soo much better later that day.

I actually left the event early do to some car problems, i was just allowing more time to make it home incase i would have to tow it.
Anyways, i hope all this is resolved, and dont forget, im the oposite of rich, Cars are my life and i often sacrifice: Food, blood, sleep, relationships, and myself for the love of hte sport. Rps13sh knows this as well, he has known me since i was 16.

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I wasn't able to drive at the event, but I have been to many events. Just to let you guys know if you guys have that much of an issue. There are tracks that will allow individuals to run on the track the whole day for about 350 dollars. That is by yourself most of the time. That is only on their off days when they have nothing else booked and you have have to call on a daily basis to see if there is anything going on.

I think these are great events, and I do give NCDA thumbs up on this. Their events aren't perfect, but they are learning and trying to adjust. It takes time since drifting is kinda new in the states. It's harder to get tracks to open up to us and allow drifters to go.

It also really doesn't help when idiots are doing stupid things like stealing from the Track. What we need to do is support people like NCDA, but NCDA also has to understand that in order for us to support them they have to support other groups that are attempting to bring drifting around. They can't try to corner the market on Northern California. I don't know all the details, actually nobody knows because neither NCDA nor CrabDrifting want to speak the truth about what's going on.

I aplaud NCDA for bringing track drifting to Norhtern California and I do believe that we need to support them and anyone else that is trying to make drifting more acceptable on the track.

I also thank Altamont Raceway for allowing us to continue drifting on their track even with all the bullshit that's been thrown their way because of it.

Lastly, NCDA needs to advertise better. We need to get people there to watch the events. We need the public to see exactly what goes on. It's the only way we are going to get public acceptability for drifters on the track.

I know there is a profit being made. I don't know how much because nobody is going to disclose that, but you should be using some of that profit to advertise these events a little better.

Thats my 2 cents.
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Thanks for educating the people David. Well I think by contacting Altamont for track rental you learned now it absolutely is not as straight cut as most people think. I know it sounds like NCDA is try to coner the market and not support other drift related group, but that is not true. We had a few long meetings with NASA about U.S. Drift, and I give them support and thumbs up for what they are doing. I like NASA's attitude and infact I helped and managed the U.S. Drift in Fontana along with Calvin and Hubert for NASA. We can not control who goes where and does what event and we don't. The mission is to "dynamicly and positively promote drifting" and we support anything that helps the mission. However there is a problem when there are confusion and manupulating actions that puts negativity and offense in the scene. Oh as for advertising, well we did our best and I have to admit it was disappointing. We went around every place we can think where there will be people interested in drifting and let them know. Any advice on advertising is welcome guys.

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Thanks for educating the people David. Well I think by contacting Altamont for track rental you learned now it absolutely is not as straight cut as most people think. I know it sounds like NCDA is try to coner the market and not support other drift related group, but that is not true. We had a few long meetings with NASA about U.S. Drift, and I give them support and thumbs up for what they are doing. I like NASA's attitude and infact I helped and managed the U.S. Drift in Fontana along with Calvin and Hubert for NASA. We can not control who goes where and does what event and we don't. The mission is to "dynamicly and positively promote drifting" and we support anything that helps the mission. However there is a problem when there are confusion and manupulating actions that puts negativity and offense in the scene. Oh as for advertising, well we did our best and I have to admit it was disappointing. We went around every place we can think where there will be people interested in drifting and let them know. Any advice on advertising is welcome guys.
I'm sorry, Josh lauqhs. I never get your names strait so I don't know if this is Tod or Don.

Anyways, which ever I'm responding to, I've been involved in cars and drifting scene for a very long time. I like driving independantly so I'm knowledgeable about the engine then I am of actually drifting a car. But I do get caught up in the behind the scenes stuff. I do know what it takes and I will never say nor have I said that you guys are ripping anyone off because I do understand what it takes.

You do hinder on your advertising, and I do understand it's not easy. I'm just really deeply involved with a larger variety of groups. There are alot of Camaro guys, Mustang guys, and other domestic guys that are kinda upset and offended cause they feel that they are purposely not being invited to these events.

Camaro runers in San Jose, have several really good drifters in their Camaro crew and I was talking to them the other day and they honestly think that NCDA (Quoting) "Are really fucked up for leaving domestics out of their events" they personally told me that they believe that you guys are purposely not inviting them, and they are upset that just because they don't drive imports they aren't allowed to participate... I understand that this isn't true but it is the message that we are sending out.

I know that when ever a domestic shows up at a DD event they are ripped one end and out the other. We need to open this up and show the domestic groups that interested in drift that they are welcome....

If you have any questions or wanna talk directly, PM me or Ask someone at AutoRND for my cell number. My names David.
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Going back to the topic, I was nervous when I seen suvs and other cars that were going in and out of the pit area. Especially when my gear and my spare rims were unattended.

Going off topic, I'm glad that the NCDA staff are here to take the complaints and complements. It shows that they respect and try to understand the community to bring us better events. If I am correct, this is their 2nd event. NCDA is growing as we are developing better skills in drifting. If you don't like it, you don't have to attend. Try one of those NASA events. You'll see a difference.

Next to renting a track, we tried to rent thunderhill on a weekday, they wanted about 4 grand for no more than 15 drivers. Minimum staff and ambulance. There is more than it seems.
Thank you Monkey. I think most people are not that exposed to track events yet and they perhaps don't know how involved it is. I have been to SCCA, NASA, BMW Club, Porsche Club, Speed Trail, TrackMaster, U.S. Drift National, ThunderHill test day, VIRA events personally and some more than once. Now please correct me if I am wrong but I think NCDA is taking the consideration of the drivers more than any of those organizers and allowing alternatives for what the drivers want more as well. Oh how was your experience with Mr. Voden?
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blu808, I hate to say this dude. When I first met you I got the impression that you where a little stuck on yourself. I didn't talk to you long enough to make a final decission so I'm not gonna say I know you or that I know your an ass or snobby. I'll wait till I get the oportunity to talk to you some more. I do think your driving skills on the drift are great. I don't know how your grip or touge is cause I've never driven on the passes with you.

Hopefully we get a chance to talk. Later.
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I'm sorry, Josh lauqhs. I never get your names strait so I don't know if this is Tod or Don.

Anyways, which ever I'm responding to, I've been involved in cars and drifting scene for a very long time. I like driving independantly so I'm knowledgeable about the engine then I am of actually drifting a car. But I do get caught up in the behind the scenes stuff. I do know what it takes and I will never say nor have I said that you guys are ripping anyone off because I do understand what it takes.

You do hinder on your advertising, and I do understand it's not easy. I'm just really deeply involved with a larger variety of groups. There are alot of Camaro guys, Mustang guys, and other domestic guys that are kinda upset and offended cause they feel that they are purposely not being invited to these events.

Camaro runers in San Jose, have several really good drifters in their Camaro crew and I was talking to them the other day and they honestly think that NCDA (Quoting) "Are really fucked up for leaving domestics out of their events" they personally told me that they believe that you guys are purposely not inviting them, and they are upset that just because they don't drive imports they aren't allowed to participate... I understand that this isn't true but it is the message that we are sending out.

I know that when ever a domestic shows up at a DD event they are ripped one end and out the other. We need to open this up and show the domestic groups that interested in drift that they are welcome....

If you have any questions or wanna talk directly, PM me or Ask someone at AutoRND for my cell number. My names David.

OMG!! You don't konw how many times up late night me and Don are drinking coffee trying to figure out how to get the demostic guys involved!! We would love to have them there. All the domestic places we went to all seem to have this drifting is stupid and we grip and we are elite of an attitude. DUDE I grew up around V8s and actually I am saving up for a C5 vette. I always plug Camaros and C5 Vettes for good at drifitng every where I go. Infact Stir TV is going to air a NCDA segment and I plugged Camaroes, Vettes, E30, and E36 BMWs. Oh my God there is no way NCDA would purposely keep them out, I just don't know where to find domestic guys that are interested. Tell those guys to mail me please. Come on Don has a Mustang and I am a C5 lover. Ooops I hope the import guys won't hate me
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Like I said. I'm involved with a bunch of domestic guys who enjoy drifting. I drive with a few of them on passes at night. They have a really bad image of NCDA and most drift organizations right now but I'll talk to them anywayz. Maybe I can convince some of them to go with me to Freedom Drift, the problem is your advertising and stuff. It's usually nothing but pictures of imports and stuff. Dude, email me directly. [email protected], or call me I don't like giving my number openly so get it from Josh or someone. I know Josh can usually get a hold of night or day.
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What I see, it is not that domestics are left out. It is that they don't know about the events. Drifting doesn't me just imports, its a different way to enjoy driving. I believe NCDA lacked advertising. NCDA is trying to serve the invironment which most attends. Which is the strong nissan group. But they are improving very fast.

With more intrest and money, they can lure Dale Earnhardt Jr. to do some tandum drifts with Taniguchi in some demos which will attract more spectators. hee hee hee... But do you understand my approach? They are starting to do that with that crazy bikers. Now that was cool.

If you look at driftday, they have a strong following. Cause they have backers and include well known drifters at the events.

But in time NCDA will also grow stronger. Its a given.
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What I see, it is not that domestics are left out. It is that they don't know about the events. Drifting doesn't me just imports, its a different way to enjoy driving. I believe NCDA lacked advertising. NCDA is trying to serve the invironment which most attends. Which is the strong nissan group. But they are improving very fast.

With more intrest and money, they can lure Dale Earnhardt Jr. to do some tandum drifts with Taniguchi in some demos which will attract more spectators. hee hee hee... But do you understand my approach? They are starting to do that with that crazy bikers. Now that was cool.

If you look at driftday, they have a strong following. Cause they have backers and include well known drifters at the events.

But in time NCDA will also grow stronger. Its a given.
And I don't doubt it. I'm just trying to give advise and let them know different opinions. Imput never hindered improvement only helps speed it along.
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Well i dont see why you guys think im snobby or whatever. Thats your deal though.

As for driving, Im way better at grip than drift. Drifting is just way fun for me becuase when i was growing up racing shifter karts drifting was frowned upon.

Anyways, Lets do a touge run some night, pm me your #.

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It was just your attitude the night I met you, and the fact that you where trying to push me and tell me that my KA with turbo sets where crappy and I didn't know what I was talking about. It was the night at Starbucks with Georgia. I had a red S13. You kept talking about how superior the SR was to the KA and that I was gonna blow my motor like everyone else. You even told me to my face that I didn't know what I was talking about even though I was working on KA's even before people knew was the S13 was.
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I never said you where snobby or stuck up. I said that was my first impression but I didn't know enough about you or spent enough time talking to you find out what kinda person you where...

But yeah. I'll definately go for a drive with you.
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I make money on my events. HAHAAHHAHHAHAHAH.

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Yeah, Al makes a ton of money from events. We were laughing about it over our steak dinners after the last event.
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HELL YEAH.

Oh yeah, you owe me dinner fucker.

I was tired ass hell. I can't believed you guys went straight home.
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Damn i miss out on zilvia like for 2 days and all hell breaks loose... I want some shit talking about me too =) Luke, you a dirty dirty guy... Pssshh.. Oh yeah and cocky... hehehe... Also David.. The flyers for the may 30th event were at the shop.. we still didnt get the new flyers for july 4th yet. And All is such a lil punk...

man.. i suck at this shit talking..

anyways.. YOU ALL SUCK ==) EAST COAST OwNZ JOO hehehe... did i do it right?
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Old 06-11-2004, 11:50 AM   #85
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Damn i miss out on zilvia like for 2 days and all hell breaks loose... I want some shit talking about me too =) Luke, you a dirty dirty guy... Pssshh.. Oh yeah and cocky... hehehe... Also David.. The flyers for the may 30th event were at the shop.. we still didnt get the new flyers for july 4th yet. And All is such a lil punk...

man.. i suck at this shit talking..

anyways.. YOU ALL SUCK ==) EAST COAST OwNZ JOO hehehe... did i do it right?
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are you bringing me that manifold today???
Ohhh, and or zeal shipment came in, you should come check them out.
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Old 06-11-2004, 03:13 PM   #87
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Since when is Luke with AutoRND.

I'm confused. lolz.

We all know that Josh is a little sorry ass pothetic looser with no life. Go back to your cave child.
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I started working here this week. Ive known the guys here for quite some time.

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