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GabeS14 · 07-22-2010, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Just to nit-pick a little bit, I hate when it is called re-barreling and people get new lips. Technically it is all a barrel but I prefer to call the outside portion a lip and the inside portion a barrel.
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looks great dude..good job..
on your post, i somewhat agree,
re barreling-re-lipping.and just switching lips should be 3 different things.
re-lipping sounds more like cutting and welding in a new lip. and changing lips is what you did.
I called up Eric, (thanks to the guy who posted before with his info)
I had the front wheels repaired but the rear Weds Kranze rapiers, are causing me some serious drama, (LAX wheel repair) straightened one lip out and relipped the other so now one is shorter than the other..WTF?? and the one that was straightened out is all crinkly??wtf again..
so i gave them a cease and desist and i told him i was gonna take therear wheels away and just take them to ERic's shop and he said he has a new 6.5" lip he could just cut and wled in. I am hoping to have an effective 7-8 inch lip when he is done.

95KA-Turbo · 07-22-2010, 11:19 PM

That should be insane looking!

I should be getting my other RS faces back from the machine shop tomorrow, so I will be ordering powder and getting them blasted so I can put the new set together! I'll only have 4.5" lips, but I believe that's the biggest BBS RS lip that's out there (aside from people polishing up other barrels and putting them on as lips, haha!).

ka24t85 · 07-23-2010, 10:39 AM

sweet, good info

fckillerbee · 07-23-2010, 03:32 PM

my new favorite thread....

and jeff...i'm wearing a savini shirt right now..lol...got it from their open house they had a couple months ago.

GabeS14 · 07-24-2010, 04:26 PM

Juat dropped my 2 rear rapiers for Eric to start working on

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fckillerbee · 07-26-2010, 05:28 PM

is there anyway we can get some shop prices...like if I had a 18 inch wheel...and wanted to make it "x" times wider, it is going to cost "x" dollars. from the face, or the backside of the rim. (adding more lip/ more backspacing)

That way we get an estimated price...
What are turn around times?....
what should we look at when shopping a shop that does this?.....
anyone have problems with their widening?.....
what are the general problems....(balancing, mounting, etc)
can you add lips to wheels that don't have one already (example rotap45..adding a lip?)

I mean...im one that knows nothing about this...so any question and all questions might be asked in here...can we make this a example/ fact only thread...

Dunkz · 07-26-2010, 06:21 PM

I had new lips made for my panasports by this company in germany: Pertsch & Partner Onlineshop

They started off as 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 and pretty poor offsets.

After swapping the rear lips to the front and having new lips made for the rear I ended up with with a 9j for the front and a 10.5 et3 on the rear.

I think the total price was something like £280 (about $430 with our poor exchange rate at the moment) delivered to Scotland for a pair of 3" lips.

PoorMans180SX · 07-26-2010, 07:56 PM

Very good idea for a thread. Subscribed.

jiggs · 08-11-2010, 01:01 AM

who relips wheels? got vs-xx 18x9 (2) , and 18x10 (2) all plus 30 offset with small lips. I want to have maximum lip and lower offset while staying the same width. how am i able to achieve that goal?

GabeS14 · 08-11-2010, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiggs

who relips wheels? got vs-xx 18x9 (2) , and 18x10 (2) all plus 30 offset with small lips. I want to have maximum lip and lower offset while staying the same width. how am i able to achieve that goal?

read back in the thread a bit, some one posted about 3 shops who do it.

jiggs · 08-11-2010, 01:15 AM

thanks much, im leaning towards eric vauhn...

GabeS14 · 08-11-2010, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiggs

thanks much, im leaning towards eric vauhn...

I recommend him, thats where my wheels are right now.

K_style · 08-11-2010, 02:00 AM

This is awesome thread... wonder if there is any shop in OR would do that....

95KA-Turbo · 08-11-2010, 07:41 AM

Got a pair of the faces back from powder coating. When I get the center caps I'll take some pictures out in the sun.

I hand cleaned the bolts for that wheel with a wire brush and sanded down the part on the face that meets with the lip and barrel. I am starting to remember how time consuming and annoying it is to take wheels apart and rebuild them. I know it is worth it though!

ballinnmiami240sx · 08-11-2010, 08:36 AM

knoop that looks awesome. I likes!!!!

implayaz9 · 08-11-2010, 08:36 AM

^where did u get ur lips?... I need help finding some 2.5/3inch lips for my rs's.. also whats the best way to clean the bolts and the nuts?

yokotas13 · 08-11-2010, 08:44 AM

vinegar is hte bestest

95KA-Turbo · 08-11-2010, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by implayaz9

^where did u get ur lips?... I need help finding some 2.5/3inch lips for my rs's.. also whats the best way to clean the bolts and the nuts?

3":

polished wheel lips shells rims dishes BBS 3x17 RS RF : eBay Motors (item 150092627962 end time Aug-28-10 16:42:54 PDT)

2.5":

polished wheel lips shells rims dishes BBS 2.5x17 RS RF: eBay Motors (item 150295750075 end time Sep-07-10 09:40:38 PDT)

That's the guy I went through, but he had to make mine since he doesn't make 4.5" lips.

The bolts I have are chrome bolts so I didn't have to clean them on the outside. I just used one of those table mounted grinding wheel things with a wire brush on it to get the old lock tight and sealant out of the threads.

ballinnmiami240sx · 08-11-2010, 08:51 AM

dont do anything else to those wheels. They look perfect!!!

implayaz9 · 08-11-2010, 08:55 AM

Thanks 95KA-Turbo.. what were ur original specs and the final ones? also what sealants u use to put em back together?

95KA-Turbo · 08-11-2010, 10:38 AM

My original ones were 17X7/8 +45/50 and after the 3.5" lips they were 17X10/11 +7/+12.

Now I am running 17X7 +45 all around, I had 5mm shaved off the back of a pair of them and am running 4.5" lips out back. So the sizes are 17X10/11 +7/-1. I have to run a 15mm spacer up front to get full use of my knuckles, so it'll be 10 -8. I am using the four 17X11 +12s as drift spares, and if I get enough grip from the 11 -1s with 245s I'll slide on them too, haha.

sskracing · 08-11-2010, 10:40 AM

this is pretty cool,
i might try to get my work euroline sl's widened or something.
could use a little more lippage!
95KA-Turbo- those wheels look good bro!
GabeS14- post picks of those 7'' lips when those wheels are done yo!
those wheels going on the s14?

GabeS14 · 08-11-2010, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sskracing

this is pretty cool,
i might try to get my work euroline sl's widened or something.
could use a little more lippage!
95KA-Turbo- those wheels look good bro!
GabeS14- post picks of those 7'' lips when those wheels are done yo!
those wheels going on the s14?

For sure. I got my fingers crossed hoping it works out. Yea they Will prob go On the s14

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OBEEWON · 08-11-2010, 11:14 AM

YES!

THIS THREAD IS THE G.O.A.T.

Im going to that spot in Burlington. I need my Hasemis widened.

OBEEWON · 08-11-2010, 11:17 AM

For anyone who has done this already. What would be cheaper. Getting a new lip made or having the lip widened? (Not including powder coat and stuff, that will be done either way.)

Is there anyone on the east coast that makes lips?

implayaz9 · 08-11-2010, 11:48 AM

I think not to many companies in us have lips. Few shops do but they are not cheap and also rare if u want more than 4 inch lips. Might have to get em custom made

GabeS14 · 08-11-2010, 10:04 PM

Buying full lips 4-5" cost about $400-$500 a lip
Welding and widenning costs about $200-$300 a rim, tey have to be polished after welding though.

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onlydrinkkoolaid · 08-11-2010, 10:55 PM

Man I want to know whats the limit on how much and what kind of rims can be widen
Just curious on what are the pros and cons of doing this kind of widening if you consider a one forged rim because I have a really sweet deal on some WORKS MEISTER S1 2P

implayaz9 · 08-11-2010, 10:58 PM

^ U can buy lips for those from work usa.. not cheap but its very doable.

95KA-Turbo · 08-11-2010, 11:50 PM

Got the rear pair bolted up and sealed tonight (thanks for the help Andrew!)

It takes approx. 20 mins to clean all of the bolts for one wheel (34) with a wire wheel, and it took a couple of hours to get these bolted together properly and sealed up.

07-22-2010, 11:19 PM	#32
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 36 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	That should be insane looking! I should be getting my other RS faces back from the machine shop tomorrow, so I will be ordering powder and getting them blasted so I can put the new set together! I'll only have 4.5" lips, but I believe that's the biggest BBS RS lip that's out there (aside from people polishing up other barrels and putting them on as lips, haha!). __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

07-24-2010, 04:26 PM	#35
GabeS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sin City Las Vegas Posts: 4,521 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: GabeS14 Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Juat dropped my 2 rear rapiers for Eric to start working on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ E92 M3 19" wheels for sale///JWT Cams and Springs +30whp for sale... cheap.

07-26-2010, 06:21 PM	#37
Dunkz Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 37 Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I had new lips made for my panasports by this company in germany: Pertsch & Partner Onlineshop They started off as 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 and pretty poor offsets. After swapping the rear lips to the front and having new lips made for the rear I ended up with with a 9j for the front and a 10.5 et3 on the rear. I think the total price was something like £280 (about $430 with our poor exchange rate at the moment) delivered to Scotland for a pair of 3" lips. __________________

07-26-2010, 07:56 PM	#38
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Very good idea for a thread. Subscribed. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

08-11-2010, 01:01 AM	#39
jiggs Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	who relips wheels? got vs-xx 18x9 (2) , and 18x10 (2) all plus 30 offset with small lips. I want to have maximum lip and lower offset while staying the same width. how am i able to achieve that goal? __________________ JS4HATERS

07-23-2010, 10:39 AM	#33
ka24t85 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: mo val Age: 35 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sweet, good info

07-23-2010, 03:32 PM	#34
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 36 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	my new favorite thread.... and jeff...i'm wearing a savini shirt right now..lol...got it from their open house they had a couple months ago.

07-26-2010, 05:28 PM	#36
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 36 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	is there anyway we can get some shop prices...like if I had a 18 inch wheel...and wanted to make it "x" times wider, it is going to cost "x" dollars. from the face, or the backside of the rim. (adding more lip/ more backspacing) That way we get an estimated price... What are turn around times?.... what should we look at when shopping a shop that does this?..... anyone have problems with their widening?..... what are the general problems....(balancing, mounting, etc) can you add lips to wheels that don't have one already (example rotap45..adding a lip?) I mean...im one that knows nothing about this...so any question and all questions might be asked in here...can we make this a example/ fact only thread...

08-11-2010, 01:15 AM	#41
jiggs Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks much, im leaning towards eric vauhn... __________________ JS4HATERS

08-11-2010, 02:00 AM	#43
K_style Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 7,666 Trader Rating: (63) Rides Gallery: K_style Feedback Score: 63 reviews	This is awesome thread... wonder if there is any shop in OR would do that....

08-11-2010, 07:41 AM	#44
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 36 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Got a pair of the faces back from powder coating. When I get the center caps I'll take some pictures out in the sun. I hand cleaned the bolts for that wheel with a wire brush and sanded down the part on the face that meets with the lip and barrel. I am starting to remember how time consuming and annoying it is to take wheels apart and rebuild them. I know it is worth it though! __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

08-11-2010, 08:36 AM	#45
ballinnmiami240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: gloucester, VA Age: 42 Posts: 517 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	knoop that looks awesome. I likes!!!! __________________ 1994 FD3S Drift // 945garage // sumospeed.com

08-11-2010, 08:36 AM	#46
implayaz9 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SOCAL Age: 39 Posts: 1,105 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^where did u get ur lips?... I need help finding some 2.5/3inch lips for my rs's.. also whats the best way to clean the bolts and the nuts?

08-11-2010, 08:44 AM	#47
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 36 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	vinegar is hte bestest __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

08-11-2010, 08:51 AM	#49
ballinnmiami240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: gloucester, VA Age: 42 Posts: 517 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	dont do anything else to those wheels. They look perfect!!! __________________ 1994 FD3S Drift // 945garage // sumospeed.com

08-11-2010, 08:55 AM	#50
implayaz9 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SOCAL Age: 39 Posts: 1,105 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Thanks 95KA-Turbo.. what were ur original specs and the final ones? also what sealants u use to put em back together?

08-11-2010, 10:38 AM	#51
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 36 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	My original ones were 17X7/8 +45/50 and after the 3.5" lips they were 17X10/11 +7/+12. Now I am running 17X7 +45 all around, I had 5mm shaved off the back of a pair of them and am running 4.5" lips out back. So the sizes are 17X10/11 +7/-1. I have to run a 15mm spacer up front to get full use of my knuckles, so it'll be 10 -8. I am using the four 17X11 +12s as drift spares, and if I get enough grip from the 11 -1s with 245s I'll slide on them too, haha. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

08-11-2010, 10:40 AM	#52
sskracing Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: 361, TX Posts: 152 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	this is pretty cool, i might try to get my work euroline sl's widened or something. could use a little more lippage! 95KA-Turbo- those wheels look good bro! GabeS14- post picks of those 7'' lips when those wheels are done yo! those wheels going on the s14?

08-11-2010, 11:14 AM	#54
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,051 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	YES! THIS THREAD IS THE G.O.A.T. Im going to that spot in Burlington. I need my Hasemis widened. __________________

08-11-2010, 11:17 AM	#55
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,051 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	For anyone who has done this already. What would be cheaper. Getting a new lip made or having the lip widened? (Not including powder coat and stuff, that will be done either way.) Is there anyone on the east coast that makes lips? __________________

08-11-2010, 11:48 AM	#56
implayaz9 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SOCAL Age: 39 Posts: 1,105 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I think not to many companies in us have lips. Few shops do but they are not cheap and also rare if u want more than 4 inch lips. Might have to get em custom made

08-11-2010, 10:04 PM	#57
GabeS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sin City Las Vegas Posts: 4,521 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: GabeS14 Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Buying full lips 4-5" cost about $400-$500 a lip Welding and widenning costs about $200-$300 a rim, tey have to be polished after welding though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ E92 M3 19" wheels for sale///JWT Cams and Springs +30whp for sale... cheap.

08-11-2010, 10:55 PM	#58
onlydrinkkoolaid Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Gainesville,FL Age: 33 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Man I want to know whats the limit on how much and what kind of rims can be widen Just curious on what are the pros and cons of doing this kind of widening if you consider a one forged rim because I have a really sweet deal on some WORKS MEISTER S1 2P

08-11-2010, 10:58 PM	#59
implayaz9 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SOCAL Age: 39 Posts: 1,105 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^ U can buy lips for those from work usa.. not cheap but its very doable.

08-11-2010, 11:50 PM	#60
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 36 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Got the rear pair bolted up and sealed tonight (thanks for the help Andrew!) It takes approx. 20 mins to clean all of the bolts for one wheel (34) with a wire wheel, and it took a couple of hours to get these bolted together properly and sealed up. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

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