HPKMotorsports3

your work is amazing!!!

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speedfreak90

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The_Doctor

This is the best 240 build thread I have ever seen. I look forward to your updates and hopefully take some ideas to my build.

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zurud

Awesome job

Om1kron

interesting.

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Wayne

A18

This build is absolutely amazing. The attention to detail is just phenomenal. Good job!

pandaroo

i like it, i love it, i want some more of it!

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silviamayne

wow, this is amazing!

240sx .25mile

what videos did you learn to weld from?

great build by the way!

donandal

My welders, mig and tig are both Miller.
they have a basic video library.
also some videos like this..
Welding Tips and Tricks - TIG, MIG, Stick and a pantload of other info
the English wheel kit I bought also came with videos

Thanks

Corbic

Holly crap - insane.

Sterlz

wow this is amazing, i'm dumbfounded. you guys should be on that HD theater channel

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d-man478

I read the whole first post and all the comments about how amazing the build is, but i cant see the pictures. it says exceeded bandwith. ahhhhh. im sad.

SLiDe_WaYz

Judging from the comments this is a amazing build ! but I'm frustrated that all the photo's are telling me bandwidth exceeded so i cant enjoy the awesomeness everyone else is seeing and getting.

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sr20sean

yea pics dont work =[

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benarovi

^^this reading comments seems as a insane build but WTF FIX UR PHOTOBUCKET ACCOUNT!!!!! shits killin me i need to see this

donandal

sorry guys
I'm on the road now in Portland Oregon,
just got to the hotel
I'll try to get the pics fixed
EDIT
well it should be fixed ...
don't know how long til it will show the pics...
but the account is good to go
again...sorry
and thanks

donandal

Ok
Finished up the latches for the battery box…


We also built these braces for the front tension rod brackets.
Allen thought this should be one of the first upgrades we should do
on the suspension. We will be upgrading both the front and rear
arms and links with custom pieces to tighten everything up.
if any one notices, the knurled knob on the botttom
of the strut drains the oil that surrounds the cartridge, and
also breaks the vacuum lock to get them back out for service

These are made from 6061 aluminum. We added a tab to the skid plate
at the cross tube to tie it all together.


The large aluminum washers have a .080 shoulder turned on them
that fit tight to the stamped holes diameter and lock the brace in place.

Allen likes the aluminum look of these pieces, so we’ll just clean
and polish these up a bit.
wish I was a better photographer
more to follow.....

Wongger

Wow, this is unreal. Keep it up!!

'97 S14 SE Turbo

With all the machine tools you have, you should just build this for the S13 so you don't worry about ground clearance.

Just need to custom build the air cups like these, and source the rest of the stuff locally in the US. Just need a 2 gal. air tank, lines, and a compressor. The electronics for the roberuta kit is actually too simple, and only use one solenoid, and a latch-on timer for letting the system run for 5 minutes at a time before de-energizing. There are other parts of the Roberuta system that I wouldn't copy. They used a water trap incorrectly in their exotic car setup, and that latch-on timer is an off-the-shelf industrial equipment piece, not really suitable for automotive use.

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C-unit

anychance you want to finish my vq swap for me...lol

GSXRJJordan

Wayne I think you tried to tell me about this build last week, but I hadn't seen it.

Interesting choices made here. Most of the cars I'm involved with are competition cars, and the 'constants'/build priorities are certainly different, with the goal very visible. I haven't seen a goal posted here (besides father/son building, which is awesome), so it's hard to weigh in on the merits of different strategies - which is any engineer's favorite hobby

The fabrication looks very good... those fender liners blew my mind, especially when I saw that they all interlock with each other! The center console is also a work of art, and assuming the fan shroud tubes don't deform over time the shroud looks great as well. Little things like the battery box and your solid tension rod braces are incredibly time consuming, but are very nice touches.

Your suspension choices made some interesting problems for you, and as nice as your 3d model is for showing general behavior (as it should be used), I still think you're going to run into some issues. 2" of usable stroke at your current ride height is not horrible, and a 400lb spring isn't horribly soft, but I think you're going to be on the bumpstops/seeing coil bind even on smooth surfaces. There are many more 'correct' ways to get more mechanical grip up front before you give up stroke and canister packaging... which leads me to the question of why run a square setup at all, and at this point, why stop at 265's in back? This is where a goal or class rules/etc helps prioritize.

The tie rod pickup hook is a nice way to get around the wheel and keep bump steer in check, but I think a full sweep (left and right toe angles through the steering range at droop, static, and coilbind) would be needed to put the issue to rest. We run into the rack location issue with V8 swaps in lots of chassis, and once you start moving pickups (especially with a strut suspension) some weird things happen.

Your choice to keep all the Z33 wiring/electronics was certainly an interesting one. If you're swayed by the Z's creature comforts I suppose that makes sense, but as far as the engine's concerned a reflash is far easier (and not expensive). I've done quite a few Z33 race cars and removing the factory wiring saves 60lbs or so while greatly increasing reliability/simplicity/serviceability, which is what my guys are looking for.

With a project with this extensive a reach, you're going to get a lot of questions, from the uninformed to the in-depth ~ you guys have been great sports in the Subaru thread and I hope my comments don't come off as closed-minded.

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irax

This is probably one of the best builds ever.
It is great to see the VQ swap community expand and the wealth of knowledge just based on pictures alone is fucking amazing! It's also interesting to see a 50 state emissions build at that. Do you have any more pictures from the gas tank modifications? Also how much would you charge for that radiator shroud setup?

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racepar1

I must say that you guys did sooooooo much work that was totally not necessary. I also must say that I can appreciate every single part and piece that you touched, AMAZING work man. It's pretty clear that everything is well thought out. Keep it up, don't listen to anyone. I'm confident that you're going to do the right thing for your project on your own...

donandal

To all of the people who have taken the time to read
and or post comments on this build....

All I can say is THANK YOU....

I'm not sure Allen really wanted me to post this build
thread, but I'm glad we did. I have really enjoyed it.
I know that the build is different from a lot of the other
cars, and a lot of that is because Allen wanted it his way.

It has been a learning experience for both of us.
I am not an engineer, and I am not really good
with electronics either, so I really appreciate the
thoughtful comments and critiques we recieved from
guys with a lot more experience than us.


We have made a few mistakes, and I expect a few more
changes, but it's been our mistakes and choices, and it's
been fun bringing Allen's ideas to fruition.


Thanks

drift freaq

Well all I can do, is praise you for the fact that you guys did it and did it so well is pretty awesome.

Like Racepar1 said ignore other peoples comments as to why. You guys decided to do it this way because you wanted to. A+ for for sticking to that and they quality with which you pulled it off.

I myself gave up on the concept of a install kit, because of lack of interest overall. Its nice to see some interest here.

My project has been on hold for some time now. After the economy went down a lot of other things became more important to me than car modifications. I hope to get back to it soon. For the sake of finishing it.

Congrats again to you guys for an absolutely jaw dropping awesome build done for your own reasons and not for the sake of others. This is currently the way I look at car modifications these days.
Ignore what others do or think do it for yourself.

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If you ever decide to sell these, let me know. I'd love to have a set. :COOL:

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plusONETEN

Its not really intended for a specific class... didn't want to limit potential modifications by some rulebook. Lots of the stuff we did 'the hard way' was for driveability reasons. Also, using standard 350z parts or 240sx parts... either way, replacement parts will be available, but 240sx parts are becoming more rare. Things like chassis parts will last forever, though. I intend on driving this car cross country a few times so stock-like z reliability sounds pretty good to me.

As for the tires, 265s were the goal for the front. the square setup is intended to save me money on tire rotations, but leave the option for more tire in the back if i add more power later on. The rear fenders are going to be rolled + pulled so there will be good fitment of the 265s... but, theres a lot of space on the inside still. Its definately possible that i will get 2 more RPF1s for the back at some point, and add more tire on the inside. Im not sure, but it might be possible to fit something like a 315/35-17 in the back without too much modification... (or perhaps something like a 295... would have to look at sizes to find the best choice) regardless, the modification wouldnt interfere with the exterior paint, so i could do it at any time...


Things like spring rates and anti-roll bars will be tweaked as needed. Also, if i run into travel issues, ill just get stiffer springs. Its not the worst thing to hit the bump stops here and there, as long as your not hitting them so frequently that grip suffers. 400 was on the soft side on what i figured would be good.... but, if 400 turns out to be stiff enough, then i will at least be using my travel. If i bought a 550lb front (which was on the stiff end of what i was thinking) and i didnt take full advantage of all the travel, i might not notice... but if im using a 400lb and i hit the bumpstops, i definitely will notice. Springs arent that expensive and its a good way to tune the cars balance regardless...


Currently, in the front, we have less negative camber than possible, because of the square setup. If there were fatter tires out back, i would probably add more negative camber up front. With our current setup, we can get zero camber, up to a few degrees of negative and not worry about clearance.

Lees_Garage

Updates?????

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donandal

We are finishing up a lot of loose ends...
painting headlite buckets, finishing dash,
finishing rear package tray, and trunk carpet
etc. ,but not a lot to show just yet...
thanks for the continued interest