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*Jeff240sx* · 09-04-2001, 09:50 PM

I just saw a commercial for a toyota camry.  And it had SO MANY flashes of "You know you want it" with a camry under it.
Isn't subliminal messaging illegal?
-Jeff

misnomer · 09-04-2001, 10:00 PM

Subliminal messaging I don't believe has ever been proven effective. You gotta work on your willpower man <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

*transient* · 09-04-2001, 10:05 PM

Jeff is quite right. It's completely illegal... Whether it works or not I don't know, but I'd imagine that if someone was in an impressionable state it would...

*Jeff240sx* · 09-04-2001, 10:10 PM

But this is a commercial...  Remember when everyone bitched about The Exorcist because it had a subliminal image??
I just think its totally WRONG to do!
-Jeff

misnomer · 09-04-2001, 10:29 PM

I don't mean to debate psychology here, but people are really only in an impressionable state if they think they are. IE: Hypnosis really only works on people who believe in it (and even then there's no proof that exists either). Every commercial, every jingle, it's all geared to stay in your head. If you can recognize and realize that there's a camry there with that slogan, and it sticks in yer head, then hat's off to Toyota's marketing department. Good press or bad press, it stays in  your head. And with that, I finish my debating and go on to better things, like buying a Camry!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

whateverjames · 09-04-2001, 11:10 PM

i've seen that commerical. i never ever wanted a toyota camry before, but now i've come to realize that "i know i want it" so i'll be selling my 240sx. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> yaright

2k1 · 09-05-2001, 06:08 AM

It can't be subliminal if you actually KNOW that you saw it. That's contrary to the whole idea of a subliminal message. Remember about 10 years ago Toyota had the Paseo commercial where the guy would say 'women dig it' really fast? It wasn't subliminal because you were conscious of the message.

Same with the camry :\

*transient* · 09-05-2001, 09:35 AM

Btw... women DO dig the paseo. A friend of mine has one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

misnomer · 09-05-2001, 12:07 PM

Why dig a paseo? 240s are sooooo much more sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

*transient* · 09-10-2001, 09:57 AM

yeah, but see... a lot of girls (at least around here) like a cute car, and that's definately what the paseo is.

09-11-2001, 02:55 PM

Paseo is funny-looking. It is so NOT cute. Most women actually want a little cheap car that will have a cupholder and will get them from place to place. Other women want a rear-wheel-drive 5-speed KA24DE (with a T at the end at one point or another). Or maybe a Supra...

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09-04-2001, 09:50 PM	#1
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 38 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just saw a commercial for a toyota camry.  And it had SO MANY flashes of "You know you want it" with a camry under it. Isn't subliminal messaging illegal? -Jeff

09-04-2001, 10:00 PM	#2
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Subliminal messaging I don't believe has ever been proven effective. You gotta work on your willpower man <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

09-04-2001, 10:05 PM	#3
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 37 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jeff is quite right. It's completely illegal... Whether it works or not I don't know, but I'd imagine that if someone was in an impressionable state it would...

09-04-2001, 10:10 PM	#4
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 38 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	But this is a commercial...  Remember when everyone bitched about The Exorcist because it had a subliminal image?? I just think its totally WRONG to do! -Jeff

09-04-2001, 10:29 PM	#5
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't mean to debate psychology here, but people are really only in an impressionable state if they think they are. IE: Hypnosis really only works on people who believe in it (and even then there's no proof that exists either). Every commercial, every jingle, it's all geared to stay in your head. If you can recognize and realize that there's a camry there with that slogan, and it sticks in yer head, then hat's off to Toyota's marketing department. Good press or bad press, it stays in  your head. And with that, I finish my debating and go on to better things, like buying a Camry!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

09-04-2001, 11:10 PM	#6
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 41 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i've seen that commerical. i never ever wanted a toyota camry before, but now i've come to realize that "i know i want it" so i'll be selling my 240sx. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> yaright

09-05-2001, 06:08 AM	#7
2k1 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It can't be subliminal if you actually KNOW that you saw it. That's contrary to the whole idea of a subliminal message. Remember about 10 years ago Toyota had the Paseo commercial where the guy would say 'women dig it' really fast? It wasn't subliminal because you were conscious of the message. Same with the camry :\

09-05-2001, 09:35 AM	#8
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 37 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Btw... women DO dig the paseo. A friend of mine has one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

09-05-2001, 12:07 PM	#9
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why dig a paseo? 240s are sooooo much more sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

09-10-2001, 09:57 AM	#10
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 37 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, but see... a lot of girls (at least around here) like a cute car, and that's definately what the paseo is.

09-11-2001, 02:55 PM	#11
Guest Posts: n/a	Paseo is funny-looking. It is so NOT cute. Most women actually want a little cheap car that will have a cupholder and will get them from place to place. Other women want a rear-wheel-drive 5-speed KA24DE (with a T at the end at one point or another). Or maybe a Supra...