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HyperTek · 10-11-2009, 02:32 PM

if your gonna argue on the internet about carrying a gun, id hate to see you arguing in person about same topic and proving your point lol

sidewaysil80 · 10-11-2009, 02:47 PM

hahahah that would be funny, click clack "bet you wish you carried now"

Tearlessj · 10-11-2009, 03:11 PM

People who open carry all the time have issues. Conceal FTW!

chrisa · 10-11-2009, 03:13 PM

wishing rape/mugging/murder/robery/etc on someone is not cool.

I dont need a gun cuz i never put myself in a situation where i would need it.

ixfxi · 10-11-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ryguy

Regardless of what you think about this particular woman, our constitutional right to bear arms is one of the most important rights we have.

whys that? having a hard time sleeping at night without one? or is it hard to find a toilet in the mall without having one. they should make guns that double as i-phone + gps etc... that would sell big.

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Originally Posted by Taniguchi_Is_#1

if we didn't have guns, the king of england could come here at any time and push us around.

haha good point.

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Originally Posted by sidewaysil80

so dont dare compare me to some backwoods hillbilly brandishing a gun.

you sound like some backwoods hillbilly brandishing a gun...

VA for the win

sidewaysil80 · 10-11-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

you sound like some backwoods hillbilly brandishing a gun...VA for the win

ehhh quite the opposite really, i was born/grew up in north jersey and then after a bunch of years in the marines i've found myself hanging my hat in virgina. funny thing is i like it so much when i'm out i might stay...maybe their is some truth to your statment after all

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Originally Posted by chrisa

wishing rape/mugging/murder/robery/etc on someone is not cool

telling someone to imagine themselves in that situation and wishing those acts on someone are two TOTALLY diff things. i'm trying to get the point across of the horrible situations that could be prevented with carrying a handgun. imo passing judgment on people who decide to legally carry a firearm and making ignorant comments towards our country's constitution isn't cool either. and to jvd if you take offense to my comment about the scenario i apologize...its merely an analogy

chrisa · 10-11-2009, 05:30 PM

you still sound like an asshole...even if they were "saved"

sidewaysil80 · 10-11-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisa

I dont need a gun cuz i never put myself in a situation where i would need it.

not for anything but thats a pretty ridiculous statement dont you think? do you think ANY of the people who were victums of a violent crime thought they were putting themselves in a bad situation? i.e. the store owner getting robbed, the house getting broken into, the family getting mugged when leaving a mall, etc. etc. some things are out of our control...and hoping/taking precautions to avoid bad situations isn't going to make you 100% safe

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Originally Posted by chrisa

you still sound like an asshole...even if they were "saved"

is it better now? re worded it for you...because HEAVEN FORBID...someone on the internet be offened in a debate

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

whys that?

(in reference to your bearing arms statment)
because if that gets taken away, all the people who carry LEGALLY and use them only for home defense...will be completley vulnerable to the criminals who carry ILLEGALLY and use firearms for crime NOT self defense. its a fact that their are NUMEROUS SELF DEFENSE shootings each year, is it sad it has to happen yes! but i am happy the victim/innocent party came out on top...your damn right!

this thread should probably get moved into "loud noises" since it when from a news story into a gun control debate

chrisa · 10-11-2009, 06:23 PM

[quote=sidewaysil80;3076008]not for anything but thats a pretty ridiculous statement dont you think? do you think ANY of the people who were victums of a violent crime thought they were putting themselves in a bad situation? i.e. the store owner getting robbed, the house getting broken into, the family getting mugged when leaving a mall, etc. etc. some things are out of our control...and hoping/taking precautions to avoid bad situations isn't going to make you 100% safe

is it better now? re worded it for you...because HEAVEN FORBID...someone on the internet be offened in a debate

I think having a gun would make it worse, what if said criminal was mugging someone and you pull your gun out on him. Then instead of getting your shit stolen and maybe an ass kicking he shoots you. Like you said criminals carry ILLEGALLY. So no i dont think my statement was stupid.

And for the record, i wasn't offended i just said you sound like an asshole cuz of your previous statement.

sidewaysil80 · 10-11-2009, 06:49 PM

ok so we're going to get into the proper times to employ/draw a firearm in a self defense situation now? this can go all night but heres my .2...i carry a gun concealed (legally) when i'm out and about/keep it in my car, and when i'm home its for home defense for me and my family. if you dont want to carry a gun GOOD FOR YOU, i do though. so who the fuck are you or anyone else to judge me or anyone else for our decision to do so. its not the people who carry legally you should be worried about...and its only "weird" to states that dont allow concealed carry (as in damn near impossible to get)

and i'll be damned if some asshole is going to act as if the constitution is outdated and worthless...just to use that as some half assed argument to press his gun control thoughts on the rest of us.

jskateborders · 10-12-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleepy240

Nowhere in the article did it imply that she wore the gun holstered around the house for her daycare center. The only information is that she wore it to a soccer game, and like I said before there could be infinite number of reasons for that. Maybe in the end it was just to prove a point?

I do agree that something was wrong with the husband obviously.

She could have done it because she was in a bad neighborhood. Ive been to my little brothers soccer games that were in the ghetto before. Im not saying I agree with her open carry idea, but being armed isnt always bad as long as your a responsible adult. I dont think people would have responded that way here in az, but then again, we just passed a law allowing guns in bars... again. Welcome to 1860.

ixfxi · 10-12-2009, 09:41 AM

we dont need gun control

we need some bullet control

haha

10-11-2009, 02:32 PM	#61
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10-11-2009, 02:47 PM	#62
sidewaysil80 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NoVA Age: 35 Posts: 1,710 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	hahahah that would be funny, click clack "bet you wish you carried now"

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chrisa BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: san pedro Age: 35 Posts: 690 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	wishing rape/mugging/murder/robery/etc on someone is not cool. I dont need a gun cuz i never put myself in a situation where i would need it.

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chrisa BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: san pedro Age: 35 Posts: 690 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	you still sound like an asshole...even if they were "saved"

10-11-2009, 06:23 PM	#69
chrisa BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: san pedro Age: 35 Posts: 690 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	[quote=sidewaysil80;3076008]not for anything but thats a pretty ridiculous statement dont you think? do you think ANY of the people who were victums of a violent crime thought they were putting themselves in a bad situation? i.e. the store owner getting robbed, the house getting broken into, the family getting mugged when leaving a mall, etc. etc. some things are out of our control...and hoping/taking precautions to avoid bad situations isn't going to make you 100% safe is it better now? re worded it for you...because HEAVEN FORBID...someone on the internet be offened in a debate I think having a gun would make it worse, what if said criminal was mugging someone and you pull your gun out on him. Then instead of getting your shit stolen and maybe an ass kicking he shoots you. Like you said criminals carry ILLEGALLY. So no i dont think my statement was stupid. And for the record, i wasn't offended i just said you sound like an asshole cuz of your previous statement.

10-11-2009, 06:49 PM	#70
sidewaysil80 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NoVA Age: 35 Posts: 1,710 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	ok so we're going to get into the proper times to employ/draw a firearm in a self defense situation now? this can go all night but heres my .2...i carry a gun concealed (legally) when i'm out and about/keep it in my car, and when i'm home its for home defense for me and my family. if you dont want to carry a gun GOOD FOR YOU, i do though. so who the fuck are you or anyone else to judge me or anyone else for our decision to do so. its not the people who carry legally you should be worried about...and its only "weird" to states that dont allow concealed carry (as in damn near impossible to get) and i'll be damned if some asshole is going to act as if the constitution is outdated and worthless...just to use that as some half assed argument to press his gun control thoughts on the rest of us.

10-12-2009, 09:41 AM	#72
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 79 Posts: 5,923 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	we dont need gun control we need some bullet control haha