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DriftReddy · 02-13-2011, 09:28 AM

Alright, so im looking to do a KAdeT...

whats done to the KA-
-BC 272 cams
-3angle vavle job, hot tank, acid washed
-bored .05 over
-CP pistons 9.0-1
-eagle rods
-ARP EVERYTHING, from pan studs to head bolts
-exedy stg3 clutch
-(gonna do all aluminum valve train)

So I was told by a friend of mine thats done a few KADEt's that he tuned 370's, z32maf, and a t28, with a SAFC and no standalone or enthalpy ecu on a max of 7lbs... JUST THE SAFC to a max of 7lbs...

my question... is it safe to drift a setup like that? I DONT WANT TO BLOW MY MOTOR, its hard enough to afford gas now-a-days, let alone a motor...

So is it a safe idea, or should I just wait to do a enthalpy?

c-los13 · 02-13-2011, 10:24 AM

from what ive heard...
ppl that do ka-t's always cheap out on the tune and blow their motors
if you already put all this money on the motor just wait
thats what i would do.

nismoman · 02-13-2011, 10:27 AM

Safc is crap for a car converted to turbo, it has no timing control. The ka NA timing map is way off for turbo. Get a tuned ecu $400

Sad s13 · 02-13-2011, 10:30 AM

cheap and reliable? pick one its rare that youll be able to have both

DriftReddy · 02-15-2011, 01:34 PM

Ok, emance or enthalpy? What's plus and minus to both?

spartanmisfit · 02-15-2011, 01:46 PM

I have a jim wolf tuned ecu and I've been happy with that in my ka-t. I would not bother with an safc unless you just use it for fine tuning. Personally I would go full stand alone tho. I seem to be the only one dumb enough around to not get an ems. make sure you get a good wideband too.

spooled240 · 02-15-2011, 02:17 PM

i have a jimwolf tune as well going for 3 years with no problems

#1 thing is tuning

jimwolf/enthalpy/nistune/standalone

DriftReddy · 02-15-2011, 02:54 PM

A friend of mine has an emance for 175... I was wondering, if it was worth waiting for an enthalpy or not?

Jybfan04 · 02-18-2011, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriftReddy

Ok, emance or enthalpy? What's plus and minus to both?

Stay away from Emance!

Enthalpy is a great alternative!

xxoreolovexx · 02-18-2011, 12:37 PM

Enthalpy all day!!!

vas570sx · 02-18-2011, 12:40 PM

2871r on 10 psi, 550cc injectors, z32 maf and an enthalpy tuned ECU and ride out.

dRift_g0ddess · 02-18-2011, 01:01 PM

I'd suggest saving money to do it right..It'd suck to see all that money and effort go to waste because you didn't invest in a good tune. Enthalpy or JWT would be my best suggestion.

02-13-2011, 10:24 AM	#2
c-los13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Edinburg, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 445 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	from what ive heard... ppl that do ka-t's always cheap out on the tune and blow their motors if you already put all this money on the motor just wait thats what i would do. Last edited by c-los13; 02-13-2011 at 05:20 PM..

02-13-2011, 10:27 AM	#3
nismoman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 412 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Safc is crap for a car converted to turbo, it has no timing control. The ka NA timing map is way off for turbo. Get a tuned ecu $400 __________________

02-18-2011, 01:01 PM	#12
dRift_g0ddess Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hesperia Posts: 843 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	I'd suggest saving money to do it right..It'd suck to see all that money and effort go to waste because you didn't invest in a good tune. Enthalpy or JWT would be my best suggestion. __________________ Friends don't let friends build SR20's. Have faith in your KA!!

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02-13-2011, 09:28 AM	#1
DriftReddy Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 33 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Cheap KAT build ideas... what to do and not to do help?? Alright, so im looking to do a KAdeT... whats done to the KA- -BC 272 cams -3angle vavle job, hot tank, acid washed -bored .05 over -CP pistons 9.0-1 -eagle rods -ARP EVERYTHING, from pan studs to head bolts -exedy stg3 clutch -(gonna do all aluminum valve train) So I was told by a friend of mine thats done a few KADEt's that he tuned 370's, z32maf, and a t28, with a SAFC and no standalone or enthalpy ecu on a max of 7lbs... JUST THE SAFC to a max of 7lbs... my question... is it safe to drift a setup like that? I DONT WANT TO BLOW MY MOTOR, its hard enough to afford gas now-a-days, let alone a motor... So is it a safe idea, or should I just wait to do a enthalpy?

02-13-2011, 10:30 AM	#4
Sad s13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: founded by the germans in 1904 Age: 33 Posts: 350 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	cheap and reliable? pick one its rare that youll be able to have both

02-15-2011, 01:34 PM	#5
DriftReddy Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 33 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Ok, emance or enthalpy? What's plus and minus to both?

02-15-2011, 01:46 PM	#6
spartanmisfit Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Lansing, Michigan Posts: 1,332 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I have a jim wolf tuned ecu and I've been happy with that in my ka-t. I would not bother with an safc unless you just use it for fine tuning. Personally I would go full stand alone tho. I seem to be the only one dumb enough around to not get an ems. make sure you get a good wideband too.

02-15-2011, 02:17 PM	#7
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,142 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	i have a jimwolf tune as well going for 3 years with no problems #1 thing is tuning jimwolf/enthalpy/nistune/standalone

02-15-2011, 02:54 PM	#8
DriftReddy Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 33 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	A friend of mine has an emance for 175... I was wondering, if it was worth waiting for an enthalpy or not?

02-18-2011, 12:37 PM	#10
xxoreolovexx Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: nj Age: 36 Posts: 184 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Enthalpy all day!!!

02-18-2011, 12:40 PM	#11
vas570sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: west palm beach Posts: 844 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2871r on 10 psi, 550cc injectors, z32 maf and an enthalpy tuned ECU and ride out.