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Old 06-25-2009, 11:30 AM   #1831
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my knicks will not be getting Stephen Curry!! nooooooooooo~! damn himmmm and his crazy high stock value sky rocket the last few weeks.
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So shaq to cleveland...
Terrible move for Cleveland...

- Putting all their eggs in one basket, and by "basket" I mean "season," more on that in a few.

- Shaq may have been in shape last year, but credits that to Phoenix's training staff -- they're not coming with him.

- Shaq is slow laterally and off of his feet these days, which makes not a good defender/rebounder.

- Shaq had problems with Dwight Howard last year, remember?

- Hack-a-Shaq is still a viable defensive strategy, so Shaq will play very little in 4th quarters.

- Shaq will clog LeBron's middle, causing him to become less effective having to lean on what is still his weakest weapon - his jumper.

- Back to the "one season" thing - Shaquille has stated that he wants another 2-year when this one is up after this season. This would put Cleveland in the unenviable position to have to TRY to sign an oft-out-of-shape Shaquille and having to pay the most expensive player in the league. When the time to choose comes, any retard knows to pay LeBron, which would leave Cleveland RIGHT back at square one.

This trade gives them the power they need to turn the corner, whether or not it will work remains to be seen and I don't think it will. In the long-term beyond the 2009-2010 season, this is a dumb move, but is probably the best available.
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What if CLE-ORL engaged in a HackaDwight v HackaShaq battle and the ECF was determined by how many FT's each could mamke?

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What if CLE-ORL engaged in a HackaDwight v HackaShaq battle and the ECF was determined by how many FT's each could mamke?

High comedy.
That would be funny, but in comparison, looks like Orlando would win, as Dwight had at least a couple decent games these playoffs, where The Big Washout just doesn't.
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LA sells it's #29 draft pick to NY for $3mil. Looks like they're making way to re-sign
both LO and Ariza.

NBA Draft is tonight. I'm not too excited.

Shaq to Cleveland... well, goodluck.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:34 PM   #1838
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Good move by LA to sell that pick. Hopefully that can get deals done with LO & TA.

Curious to see how team chemistry will be effected by the a
shaquisition.

Will be interesting to see how shaq will hold up through out the next season.

I'm sure he'll come back motivated and in shape next year; but after that, prolly not.
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next song from shaq: "lebron how's my ass taste"?
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I can see Shaq saying it now...
-Lebron is the greatest player I have played with
-Mo Williams is the best PG ever
-Mike Brown is the greatest coach I have played for

Orlando will trade Alston and Lee to New Jersey for Vince Carter and Ryan Andersen. I say that's a solid trade
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thats kind of scary though. c-dwight, f-rashard, f-hedo,g-vc, and g-nelson
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thats kind of scary though. c-dwight, f-rashard, f-hedo,g-vc, and g-nelson
I don't think Hedo is staying, not with his $11mil pricetag.
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For the sake of talk let's say Lakers don't win next year, and Shaq and Lebron win a ring....What will suck for Lebron is everyone saying he can't win a ring without Shaq!! Hahahahaha and now he's got a big monkey on his back. Same with Wade he's also got a big monkey on his back. I think the correct Shaq song would be..."Dwayne tell me how my ass taste!"
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For the sake of talk let's say Lakers don't win next year, and Shaq and Lebron win a ring....What will suck for Lebron is everyone saying he can't win a ring without Shaq!! Hahahahaha and now he's got a big monkey on his back. Same with Wade he's also got a big monkey on his back. I think the correct Shaq song would be..."Dwayne tell me how my ass taste!"
For the minimal upside that Shaq will bring to the team, with the addition of Vince Carter to Orlando and Kevin Garnett returning in Boston, it remains to be seen if Cleveland will even be IN the discussion, especially considering how shitty a coach they have.
It WILL be a one-year experiment, though, as they CAN FUCKING NOT afford LeBron AND Shaq after this season, when LeBron's asking price will understandably be what Tracy McGrady and Kobe Bryant blew through the ceiling on before him.
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If the Warriors trade Biedrins for Amare, I might have to quit that team. Horrible idea.
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Is that even on the table?
Fuck, seems like Phoenix is selling this coming season for next, like Detroit did last year.
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Bucher was on TV saying it's Biedrins/Belinelli/Wright/#7 for Amare.

That's way too much. Ellis and Wright is the most i'd give, but frankly, i'd rather see what Anthony Randolph does next to Biedrins than see Amare at center for one year before he walks.
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damn you golden state!!! you already have that other useless guard called monta ellis WTF you screw us over for? we came so close to getting curry!!!! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu

why the hell did we draft a PF?
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Because David Lee is a free agent, dumbass. It's 2009 and people don't know the #1 rule is "follow the money."

He's also BPA and therefore the best available trade bait.
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well since lakers sold the draft pick. Itll send money over to ariza.
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For the sake of talk let's say Lakers don't win next year, and Shaq and Lebron win a ring....What will suck for Lebron is everyone saying he can't win a ring without Shaq!! Hahahahaha and now he's got a big monkey on his back. Same with Wade he's also got a big monkey on his back. I think the correct Shaq song would be..."Dwayne tell me how my ass taste!"
Ehh, not really for Wade. The Heat actually had good players on the team, unlike Cleveland. It wasn't just two people, or one (as was the case for Cleaveland this year). Williams, Haslem, Posey, Payton, Mourning, Walker, etc. i would say that the whole Kobe can't win without Shaq was also pretty lame considering those teams also had a lot of good players. But yes, the argument for LeBron would be much stronger IMO.
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Shaq in shape?


Shaq hasn't been in shape in 15 years.
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Dallas doesn't want to re-sign Kidd, so I'm thinking he's gonna sign with LA for the
vet's minimum. He has the best chance on winning a title alongside Kobe.

Hedo opted out of his contract, and I have a feeling Portland will make a run at him.
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Hedo opted out of his contract, and I have a feeling Portland will make a run at him.

Lakers already have three point guards, why have another one ?
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They are shopping Farmar...
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They're fully expecting Fisher to ride off into the sunset and be a family man after this contract. They've made it abundantly clear that they're looking for their next point guard, and for them to be shopping Farmar would naturally mean that he ain't it.
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Kirk Hinrich is pretty much the ideal Phil Jackson PG. 6'3, physical, 3P range, plus he's got playoff experience but under 30.

Contract's prohibitive though.
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Ron Artest is a Laker. He will sign a 3-yr contract worth around $18mil. Ariza wanted $9million a year, and no
way is he worth that much. I am exuberant for this signing (pending).

Goodbye Ariza, have fun in Portland/Toronto/Cleveland.
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