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Geno750 · 09-11-2009, 08:58 PM

Finally got mine.

Everything looks great so far. I remember a lot of people wondering about A/C fitment, and I'll have that answer shortly. Here is a picture of the setup that is being replaced. I already started taking it apart, so bare with the messy engine bay.

I'll keep this thread updated as I go.

florante rea · 09-11-2009, 09:23 PM

wow, just plain sick. how much 4 the setup if you don't mind me asking?

GSXRJJordan · 09-11-2009, 09:48 PM

Looks sexy as hell. New tiny Tial wastegates for easy fitment, love it! Also curious how much you spent, and is that the 3071/76 or 3582?

Geno750 · 09-11-2009, 11:32 PM

Its the 3076r. I don't even what to think about how much this ended up costing me. It was north of $2000 though.

All I have to say is yay for buying a lot of Bank of America shares when it was down below $5 a share several months ago.

KrazyS13 · 09-12-2009, 01:04 AM

Wow, thats beautiful!!

*brndck* · 09-12-2009, 01:50 AM

fuck man, i've always LOVED an external gate blowing out thru a screamer pipe, i can only imagine how much better TWO of them will sound!

GSXRJJordan · 09-12-2009, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geno750

It was north of $2000 though...

If you're anywhere near $2000 for the turbo, wastegates, and mani, you've gotten a screaming deal.

If you're over $2k for just the manifold, I'd want something that says "FULL RACE" on the side lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brndck

fuck man, i've always LOVED an external gate blowing out thru a screamer pipe, i can only imagine how much better TWO of them will sound!

Sounds just like one big one. =P

Om1kron · 09-12-2009, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

If you're anywhere near $2000 for the turbo, wastegates, and mani, you've gotten a screaming deal.

If you're over $2k for just the manifold, I'd want something that says "FULL RACE" on the side lol.

Why when this one fits better???

GSXRJJordan · 09-12-2009, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

Why when this one fits better???

Lifetime warranty mostly, reputation, but also bling/fanboy status. I'm guessing the Powerlab mani is much cheaper though.

I'm only asking because I'd really love a twin-scroll mani for the RB25 that's as nice as the Full Race for a more 'reasonable' cost.

Geno750 · 09-12-2009, 06:31 AM

PowerLab's warranty is the same as Full-Race's warranty on the manifold. The manifold, wastegates, and the elbow/dump tubes was what I was talking about when people asked about price.

Also, the car this is all going into is a 95 180sx, so fanboy status is covered.

GSXRJJordan · 09-12-2009, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geno750

PowerLab's warranty is the same as Full-Race's warranty on the manifold. The manifold, wastegates, and the elbow/dump tubes was what I was talking about when people asked about price.

Also, the car this is all going into is a 95 180sx, so fanboy status is covered.

Haha, excellent! That's definitely a better deal than Full Race, I can't wait to see fitment in the car!

Om1kron · 09-12-2009, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Haha, excellent! That's definitely a better deal than Full Race, I can't wait to see fitment in the car!

They're actually about the same price...

GSXRJJordan · 09-12-2009, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

They're actually about the same price...

Those wastegates are ~$250/ea, so $2k including wastegates and dump tubes is cheaper than Full Race, right?

Anyway, looks dope, might have to talk to them about a twin scroll RB mani.

S14_Kouki · 09-12-2009, 08:07 PM

I know whats cheaper then full race

Geno750 · 09-12-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Those wastegates are ~$250/ea, so $2k including wastegates and dump tubes is cheaper than Full Race, right?

Anyway, looks dope, might have to talk to them about a twin scroll RB mani.

For the most part, yes.

Geno750 · 10-18-2009, 01:38 PM

I've been super busy lately, but I finally had some free time to get started on the car.

The manifold DOES clear A/C just fine, but the dipstick will need to be bent.

The dump tubes also clear the side of the chassis with enough space to route the lines, you will just have to have the lines right up against the body of the car. Every inch of space is needed to put distance between the A/C lines and the dump tubes, and the manifold.

Om1kron · 10-18-2009, 03:10 PM

going to need mad thermal wrap on them ac lines lol.

Geno750 · 10-18-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

going to need mad thermal wrap on them ac lines lol.

Definitely, I'll be wrapping the manifold and the lines in the area. Luckily I ordered WAAAY to much of that stuff when setting up a 13B to be used in an airplane, so I've got a lot left.

Geno750 · 12-29-2009, 07:02 PM

I know its been a while, but I've finally been able to get everything installed, wrapped, and checked out. The biggest delay was waiting for a S14 SR20DET water neck to get here.

I also ran into a delay when I realized that with the placement of one of the wastegate flanges on the manifold, a vertical oil retun setup would be impossible. A 45 degree fitting must be used to route the oil return line around the wastegates and manifold.

I made all the turbo lines myself, and recommend that to anyone interested in doing a top mount turbo. It is incredibly easy to do on your own, and you'll save quite a bit of money doing it this way. Here is a breakdown of everything I've used. Other part numbers are available for different brands, but this should make searching for what is needed a whole lot easier.

1x 9919BFF -4 AN to 12mm x 1.25 Male (threads into the block's oil feed hole)
1x 220487 -4 AN 90 DEGREE HOSE END (oil feed line to the turbo)
1x 220490 -4 AN STRAIGHT HOSE END (oil feed line from the block)
2x 670520 Metric adapter to -6an X14MM 1.5 (two for turbo, two for block. Only order 3 if you are going to use the rear water line on a S13 SR)
1x 900106 -6 ECON-O-FIT RED 5/8 ID (ONLY used if using S13 SR rear water line)
3x 220687 -6 90 DEGREE HOSE END (two will be used to make the water line going from the block to the turbo. Only buy 2 if using the rear waterline on the S13 SR)
1x 220690 -6 STRAIGHT HOSE END (1 for the oil feed line. Don't order if using S13 SR rear water line)
1x 220047 -10 1/2" NPT ADAPTER (this will convert the oil drain fitting on the block to -10an)
1x 697070 -10 ADAPTER (bolts onto GT series turbo's as a -10an oil return flange)
1x 220090 -10 STRAIGHT HOSE END (block side fitting for oil return hose)
1x 220086 -10 45 DEGREE HOSE END (this is needed, a straight hose end will not fit turbos mounted to the powerlab manifold)
1x 632150 -10 PROFLEX HOSE 3FT (3ft is the smallest quantity orderable by summit)
1x 230610 -6 S.S. HOSE 10FT (6ft is the absolute minimum I'd recommend ordering, besides, any extra can be used in the future for things like fuel lines)
1x 230403 -4 S.S. HOSE 3FT (again, the minimum amount that can be ordered from summit)

Also, this kit places the Downpipe in extreme proximity to any breather tube connecting the block to the valve cover. I used this:
2x 900112 -12 ECON-O-FIT RED 15/16 ID
1x 230203 -12 S.S. HOSE 3FT (I plan on finding a way to convert the fittings on the greddy catch can to -12 and -10 in the future)

pyshin · 12-29-2009, 07:09 PM

That. Is. Beautiful. Congrats.

Geno750 · 12-29-2009, 07:22 PM

And here is a video of the setup at idle, no fluid or exhaust leaks, so I'll be road testing it once the car is back together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvQyVyX2ZTQ

*brndck* · 12-30-2009, 09:01 PM

one question, how does this all fit on an lhd car?

Geno750 · 12-30-2009, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brndck

one question, how does this all fit on an lhd car?

I'd say better. No A/C or heater lines to contend with, and everything is very close to the block easily leaving space for the steering rack and bmc.

sidewayson · 01-04-2010, 07:34 PM

I have the car they designed the manifold on and it is lhd everything fits and works great i do not have ac but i do have powersteering. My car runs great the only problem i did not for see was the oil return line I had to run a 45 off the turbo and i redid the block to a -10 not a big deal. Dyno time this week.

. Glad to see the kit worked out for you geno

XnTroubleX · 01-04-2010, 07:49 PM

how long did it take for you to have it in posession after you ordered it?

chinabean · 01-04-2010, 07:52 PM

wow badass

Geno750 · 02-19-2010, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XnTroubleX

how long did it take for you to have it in posession after you ordered it?

Sorry for my late reply, I've been in Hong Kong and don't have a whole lot of time to get online. From purchase to delivery it took about 6 weeks, but I was one of the very first people to purchase, and we (intensepower and I) wanted to make sure everything fit properly. So I told them I wouldn't mind waiting for them to get a similar turbo to what I have to ensure proper downpipe fitment.

XnTroubleX · 02-19-2010, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geno750

Sorry for my late reply, I've been in Hong Kong and don't have a whole lot of time to get online. From purchase to delivery it took about 6 weeks, but I was one of the very first people to purchase, and we (intensepower and I) wanted to make sure everything fit properly. So I told them I wouldn't mind waiting for them to get a similar turbo to what I have to ensure proper downpipe fitment.

No prob on the delay,, I ordered my mani and it came in in about 3 weeks, I didnt order the kit because Im going a different direction on the turbo. But I ordered the wastegates, dump pipe and dump tubes about a week ago and they should be here next week.

Geno750 · 02-20-2010, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XnTroubleX

No prob on the delay,, I ordered my mani and it came in in about 3 weeks, I didnt order the kit because Im going a different direction on the turbo. But I ordered the wastegates, dump pipe and dump tubes about a week ago and they should be here next week.

Nice, what turbo are you going to use?

IntensePower · 07-13-2010, 12:22 PM

Any updates on your build... HP numbers or anything.

Nice write up btw... THANKS FOR SHARING!

09-11-2009, 08:58 PM	#1
Geno750 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Age: 36 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Powerlab twin scroll manifold Finally got mine. Everything looks great so far. I remember a lot of people wondering about A/C fitment, and I'll have that answer shortly. Here is a picture of the setup that is being replaced. I already started taking it apart, so bare with the messy engine bay. I'll keep this thread updated as I go.

09-11-2009, 09:23 PM	#2
florante rea Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: king of prussia, pa Age: 40 Posts: 1,448 Trader Rating: (43) Feedback Score: 43 reviews	wow, just plain sick. how much 4 the setup if you don't mind me asking? __________________ fdrea

09-11-2009, 09:48 PM	#3
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Looks sexy as hell. New tiny Tial wastegates for easy fitment, love it! Also curious how much you spent, and is that the 3071/76 or 3582? __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

09-12-2009, 08:07 PM	#14
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10-18-2009, 01:38 PM	#16
Geno750 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Age: 36 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I've been super busy lately, but I finally had some free time to get started on the car. The manifold DOES clear A/C just fine, but the dipstick will need to be bent. The dump tubes also clear the side of the chassis with enough space to route the lines, you will just have to have the lines right up against the body of the car. Every inch of space is needed to put distance between the A/C lines and the dump tubes, and the manifold. Last edited by Geno750; 10-18-2009 at 02:13 PM..

09-11-2009, 11:32 PM	#4
Geno750 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Age: 36 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Its the 3076r. I don't even what to think about how much this ended up costing me. It was north of $2000 though. All I have to say is yay for buying a lot of Bank of America shares when it was down below $5 a share several months ago.

09-12-2009, 01:04 AM	#5
KrazyS13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Murfreesboro, Tn Age: 37 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews	Wow, thats beautiful!!

09-12-2009, 06:31 AM	#10
Geno750 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Age: 36 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	PowerLab's warranty is the same as Full-Race's warranty on the manifold. The manifold, wastegates, and the elbow/dump tubes was what I was talking about when people asked about price. Also, the car this is all going into is a 95 180sx, so fanboy status is covered.

10-18-2009, 03:10 PM	#17
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 6,879 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	going to need mad thermal wrap on them ac lines lol. __________________ Wayne

12-29-2009, 07:02 PM	#19
Geno750 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Age: 36 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I know its been a while, but I've finally been able to get everything installed, wrapped, and checked out. The biggest delay was waiting for a S14 SR20DET water neck to get here. I also ran into a delay when I realized that with the placement of one of the wastegate flanges on the manifold, a vertical oil retun setup would be impossible. A 45 degree fitting must be used to route the oil return line around the wastegates and manifold. I made all the turbo lines myself, and recommend that to anyone interested in doing a top mount turbo. It is incredibly easy to do on your own, and you'll save quite a bit of money doing it this way. Here is a breakdown of everything I've used. Other part numbers are available for different brands, but this should make searching for what is needed a whole lot easier. 1x 9919BFF -4 AN to 12mm x 1.25 Male (threads into the block's oil feed hole) 1x 220487 -4 AN 90 DEGREE HOSE END (oil feed line to the turbo) 1x 220490 -4 AN STRAIGHT HOSE END (oil feed line from the block) 2x 670520 Metric adapter to -6an X14MM 1.5 (two for turbo, two for block. Only order 3 if you are going to use the rear water line on a S13 SR) 1x 900106 -6 ECON-O-FIT RED 5/8 ID (ONLY used if using S13 SR rear water line) 3x 220687 -6 90 DEGREE HOSE END (two will be used to make the water line going from the block to the turbo. Only buy 2 if using the rear waterline on the S13 SR) 1x 220690 -6 STRAIGHT HOSE END (1 for the oil feed line. Don't order if using S13 SR rear water line) 1x 220047 -10 1/2" NPT ADAPTER (this will convert the oil drain fitting on the block to -10an) 1x 697070 -10 ADAPTER (bolts onto GT series turbo's as a -10an oil return flange) 1x 220090 -10 STRAIGHT HOSE END (block side fitting for oil return hose) 1x 220086 -10 45 DEGREE HOSE END (this is needed, a straight hose end will not fit turbos mounted to the powerlab manifold) 1x 632150 -10 PROFLEX HOSE 3FT (3ft is the smallest quantity orderable by summit) 1x 230610 -6 S.S. HOSE 10FT (6ft is the absolute minimum I'd recommend ordering, besides, any extra can be used in the future for things like fuel lines) 1x 230403 -4 S.S. HOSE 3FT (again, the minimum amount that can be ordered from summit) Also, this kit places the Downpipe in extreme proximity to any breather tube connecting the block to the valve cover. I used this: 2x 900112 -12 ECON-O-FIT RED 15/16 ID 1x 230203 -12 S.S. HOSE 3FT (I plan on finding a way to convert the fittings on the greddy catch can to -12 and -10 in the future)

12-29-2009, 07:09 PM	#20
pyshin Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	That. Is. Beautiful. Congrats.

12-29-2009, 07:22 PM	#21
Geno750 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Age: 36 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	And here is a video of the setup at idle, no fluid or exhaust leaks, so I'll be road testing it once the car is back together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvQyVyX2ZTQ

01-04-2010, 07:34 PM	#24
sidewayson Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: az Age: 35 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have the car they designed the manifold on and it is lhd everything fits and works great i do not have ac but i do have powersteering. My car runs great the only problem i did not for see was the oil return line I had to run a 45 off the turbo and i redid the block to a -10 not a big deal. Dyno time this week. . Glad to see the kit worked out for you geno

01-04-2010, 07:49 PM	#25
XnTroubleX Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: louisiana Age: 37 Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	how long did it take for you to have it in posession after you ordered it?

01-04-2010, 07:52 PM	#26
chinabean Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in burning embers Posts: 655 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	wow badass

07-13-2010, 12:22 PM	#30
IntensePower Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,190 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Any updates on your build... HP numbers or anything. Nice write up btw... THANKS FOR SHARING! __________________ IntensePower.com 480-635-8888 Setting World Records Daily! S13/S14 Tailight Specials Stance Coilover Special Kouki Headlight Special

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