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Old 12-11-2007, 10:14 PM   #61
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fuck I hope TJ Ford is alright. I didn't see the video yet but after reading about it....it doens't look so good....especially since he just had surgery on his neck

I just hope he can move again. Articles are saying he didn't even move when he was on the floor. Toronto is pretty strong this year too.... did anyone see the game?
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I didn't see the game, but I saw the foul, it appeared to be an honest mistake, a play on the ball that went bad when TJ used the rim to seal the defender.
They also said that he moved his extremities in the hospital as well.
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The Knicks sucks...they get paid to lose...
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I'm a Warriors fan and I have NO idea how we won. We didn't really deserve to.

Basically the refs were jobbing us a LITTLE, but we were killing ourselves ALOT with poor,..i mean ATROCIOUS shot selection and ballhandling/passing. Al Harrington, Stephen Jack, Monta Ellis all took turns fucking up fast breaks or simple half-court offense ball rotation.

Basically, Baron Davis' end of the game play making, Kobe's injury, and an ungodly 48% 3P shooting performance overall gave us a lucky win.

Fortunately Utah lost as well to the streaking Trailblazers, and GS now sits in the 7th seed.

I am both frightened and happy that we won. Nellie needs to sit the team down tomorrow and make them watch game tape of their stupidity. Passing drills all day.
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“Hi, I’m Kobe Bryant and I want to win a championship."
"Once the roster had been determined in training camp, Phil Jackson gathered his players for a meeting at the Lakers hotel in Hawaii. All around the room, they were required to stand one by one, give their name and say something about themselves.

And so, the rookies, Javaris Crittenton and Coby Karl, rose, and and the old returning champion, Derek Fisher, and finally, the most famous man in the room climbed to his feet.

“Hi, I’m Kobe Bryant and I want to win a championship."

For a moment, it had to draw the air out of the room. After all, this was the tension that hung over the franchise like an anvil.

“That’s all he said," Jordan Farmar said by phone Thursday. “That’s all that needed to be said."



Great season so far.

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-Lakers, Celtics, Magic, Blazers, Hornets, Pistons and Spurs are looking exceptionally well
-Blazers with a 12-game winning streak
-Knicks continue to... well, I don't know (fire Thomas)
-Heat continue decline
-Lakers with impessive wins over Spurs, Nuggets (2), Jazz (2), Pistons, and Suns (2)
-Bryant is playing team ball, Bynum is a growing into the player the Lakers drafted him for (with tons more room for potential), bench is playing well

Can't wait for the game this Sunday against the Celtics. Going to be a good one.
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Team to beat: Boston Celtics. I'm all for KG getting a ring. The man is on a mission!
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If Kevin Garnett wins the MVP this year (since most analysts say), I will be disappointed. He isn't even the MVP of his OWN team, let alone the NBA. Yes, the stat differences are minor, but a MVP has to be a clear-cut standout.

Paul Pierce 21.1PPG 5.3RPG 5.0 APG
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Kevin Garnett 18.9 PPG 10.5RPG 3.6APG
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Well, I'm not sure what they base MVP on nowadays. Is it supposed to be the player most valuable to his team? Most valuable in the league? Highest scorer? A person who exceeds in his sportsmanship?
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I am beginning to notice that Amare Stoudemire is more or less a bully, who only comes off when no one is around to stop him.
If a team even has an *okay* center, he is not particularly good at either end of the court, often even confused-acting when faced with decision time.
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If the league actually decided to call traveling or offensive fouls on him...would he be better than Jerome James (circa '04-'04)?

"STAT"'s footwork is generally flawed, only the beauty of Nash's passes and the necessity to sell advertising time overshadow his infractions. He's a phenomenal athlete, no doubt,...a specimen..but he's not particularly skilled.

The Suns are gonna need a big man who can play D if they want to do more than dream about a championship.

On another note:

The Jazz made a minor move (Giricek and a pick for Kyle Korver) that might have just kicked the Warriors out of the playoffs. They now have a pretty good 3P shooter to space the floor for Boozer when Okur is cold.

Damn.
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Yeah, Amare's footwork is approximately shit, I am hoping that Van Gundy doesn't let that happen to Dwight Howard down in Orlando. Hell with free throw shooting, Shaq made a hall of fame career without it, but his footwork and defense were on point, now they're going to shit too in a linear parallel with his conditioning, but we all saw that coming.
I am not quite counting the warriors out of the playoffs yet, there is a lot of parity between 4-8th seeds, or what would be if the playoffs were not months out.
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If Kevin Garnett wins the MVP this year (since most analysts say), I will be disappointed. He isn't even the MVP of his OWN team, let alone the NBA. Yes, the stat differences are minor, but a MVP has to be a clear-cut standout.

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KG has been ANCHORING that team defensively. Neither of the other 2 guys are defensive stalwarts, is it a coincidence that the Celts suddenly became the #1 team in defense? I think KG is definitely the MVP for the Celts and a front runner for MVP of the league if the Celts continue to play like they're playing. If you watch the Celts play, it's clear he's the heart and the root of defensive mojo for this team.
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Garnett has the best mobility on the perimeter of any 7 footer, which allows him to be an ungodly pick and roll defender. You don't get any advantage by running a guard through a pick, since you run into his massive wingspan and quick feet. He's also smart enough to recover and attentive enough to bring weakside help for his team mates.

Throw in his dominating rebounding and you have a seriously effective defense.
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fuck man warriors lost next game there gonna kick spurs ASS
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will you please die already?

If we couldn't close the gap on a Hornets team that lost David West in crunch time, I think you should shoot yourself if you think we're gonna "kick spurs ass".

Dumbass fans can get off the bandwagon please.
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my knicks is done for this season.

as for nuggets they are inconsistent. they will face utah 4xtimes i'm hoping they shut them down atleast 3-1. also they need a win against portland and lakers.


definitely KG deserves mvp, they will be champs this year but, you know who else deserves a championship ring?... AI!
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Well, I'm not sure what they base MVP on nowadays. Is it supposed to be the player most valuable to his team? Most valuable in the league? Highest scorer? A person who exceeds in his sportsmanship?
If it was awarded to the person most valuable to his team, Kobe should have won it during the 05-06 season, and not Nash.

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KG has been ANCHORING that team defensively. Neither of the other 2 guys are defensive stalwarts, is it a coincidence that the Celts suddenly became the #1 team in defense? I think KG is definitely the MVP for the Celts and a front runner for MVP of the league if the Celts continue to play like they're playing. If you watch the Celts play, it's clear he's the heart and the root of defensive mojo for this team.
Ok ok, maybe I was just hating in my post earlier. lol

The Celtics do look good, however, look at their early schedule, it's one of the weakest in the league. The remaining games for them will be a harder schedule and a better gauge of how good they really are. I expect those 3 losses to add up.
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We'll see when they play the Pistons, they've already avenged their other two losses...
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Ok ok, maybe I was just hating in my post earlier. lol

The Celtics do look good, however, look at their early schedule, it's one of the weakest in the league. The remaining games for them will be a harder schedule and a better gauge of how good they really are. I expect those 3 losses to add up.
I just think KG has a strong case SO FAR in this long season, but he's not the only one. Celts and Det tonight, this will be their second true test (they lost to Det the first time), should be a great game. My Rockets, on the other hand, not doing so well. Talk about tough schedule, they've played all the top West teams at least twice already and we're only 1/3 of the way through the season. However, w/ Lady McGrady out, their ball movement is the best I've seen in ages, and the last couple of games they have been playing well, a close loss to to a Celts team and a close win over Orlando.
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Chris Paul just ran through Baron Davis and Steve Nash on a *back to back* set against GSW and PHX.

The All-Star Game is in New Orleans, and frankly, his performance is more than enough.

Paul should start the All-Star Game for the West.
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STEVE NASH IS NOT THAT GREAT!!!
His defense is lacking to the point where he is a liability on defense if the point guard he is facing can work with the ball (C. Paul, J. Kidd) without it (D. Williams) or shoot it (D. Fisher).
See what I just did? I named 3 point guards who have and will continue to pull Steve Nash's skirt, while the league continues to ignore that and hold him as the best ever. Shit, if I had 5 picks, Nash would be my 5th out of point guards in a league that apparently has abandoned point guard play.
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Well, his offensive efficiency (check the FG, FT, 3p percentages, the assist totals) is pretty ridiculous still.

I'm sure he tries on defense, but he just never had the raw physical ability to do much.

Marion and bell are above average defenders, and Hill can still play some D.

But the Suns are just too small without a dominating guy in the middle to hold down the paint, which just makes Nash's matador defense stand out more.

I always thought they should have at least gotten another 6'6, 6'7 wing type guy to help man up on the perimeter, since you can't run Hill into the ground this early. None of the guys they drafted have done much.
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Lakers atop the Pacific Division with their 7th straight win after tonight's OT win in Seattle.
Bynum out 8 weeks, though.

Boston with a 2-game slide.

Knicks/Heat are still... the Knicks/Heat.
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Bump. Zilvia has no NBA love.

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People (well, these people) don't pay attention to the NBA until the NFL season ends, you should know that.
Tracy McGrady has gone down longer than he probably should have been with injury, TJ Ford is rushing his exit from the league because his spine is apparently made of tin foil, the Lakers are unfortunately headed in the same direction as last year, extreme promise ruined by injury and then having to actually PLAY Kwame Brown (could we PLEASE trade him?). Everyone ignores when an even decent point guard exposes Steve Nash's defensive shortcomings EVERY TIME, be it defending the ball or getting out to defend a jumper, but especially on the ball, the man has zero defensive mobility.
LeBron and Dwyane Wade will both need to leave their current demonstrations if they ever want to win again, the Heat will be held down by Shaq's contract and continued refusal to retire and the Cavs will continue to feel stupid for letting Boozer escape with nothing in return, more especially simply for letting him leave.
Did I mention that the eastern conference, with the exception of the Celtics and Pistons, is a fucking joke?
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BREAKING NEWS.

Lakers sign center DJ Mbenga.



I guess we need all the help we can, after Ariza going down with a foot injury.
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Someone injured Don Nelson's head a long time ago.

Why else would he run Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson to the ground in pursuit of blown games like today?

Use ur flippin' bench and an actual big man in the middle.
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According to ESPN:

Barring an unexpected change of heart, sources said, Webber will accept the invitation from former coach Don Nelson and former teammate Chris Mullin to come back to the team with whom he won NBA Rookie of the Year honors in 1994, only for Webber to force a trade to Washington some six months later when his prickly relationship with Nelson collapsed.


If anyone ever needed proof that time doesn't move forward in a straight line, but merely in circles...this it it.

After the disastrous post-'94 debacle where Webber left and sent the franchise (With help from other bungling moves by the front office) into a tail spin for 15 years, he's gonna be back with the coach that sent him away to begin with. Go figure.

For those who aren't Warrior fans or are too young to remember:

Warriors had the #3 pick in the '93 draft. On draft day, we dealt the #3 (Penny Hardaway) and three future first rounders to Orlando to draft Webber #1 overall. We made the playoffs that year and Webber was spectacular.

Nellie wanted C-Webb to play center, guard other centers, and play in the low block. C-Webb refused to play center and wanted to stay on the perimeter. As a result of the conflict, Webber exercised an opt-out clause in '94 and was signed and traded to the Washington Wizards in exchange for Tom Gogliotta and future first rounders. (None of those picks was noteworthy).

Gogliotta was eventually dealt for Donyell Marshall, who proceeded to have a half-dozen mediocre seasons with the Warriors.

Marshall was dealt in '00 for Danny Fortson in a multiteam deal. Fortson was a rebounding specialist who averaged 16 pts and 16 boards in 6 games after he was traded, then promptly broke his foot and missed the rest of the year. The next year his stats plummetted (to 11/11) and he lost his job to Troy Murphy, who was a pretty good pick at the time (before he, too, got hurt and lost mobility).

Danny Fortson was dealt in' 03 along with Antawn Jamison to the Mavericks in a 4 team, 9 player deal for Nick Van Exel, Eduardo Nejera, Evan Eschemeyer, and crap.

Nick Van Exel was then dealt to Portland for Dale Davis and Dan Dickau.

The Warriors eventually signed Speedy Claxton to take NVE's starting Pg spot.

In 2004, Claxton and Dale Davis were traded for...

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Baron Davis.

Nellie's back. Webber's back. Baron's replaced Hardaway, Ellis has replaced Sprewell, Harrington has replaced Chris Gatling, and Jackson has replaced Mullin.

Oh boy.
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thats why the knicks fired his ass.
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