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BOROSUN · 05-21-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theronin

Didn't Sony also inflate the ps3s numbers? Basically everything is a rumor until they are released. Any gamer is prob going to buy both anyways. Just for the exclusives. Mmmmm God of War drool

it could be true, sony inflating #. there's no way a 8gb GDDR5 system it's going to cost around that est range. imo.

buuuuut, GDDR6 is around the block. 2014 you'll start seeing it on GPUs. its release should drive the GDDR5 price lower. so I dunno at this point. i'll just sit and wait.

Juantwo3 · 05-21-2013, 10:29 PM

Xbox or die

frost1988 · 05-21-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Juantwo3

Xbox or die

Seems to me the console wars have started once again.My choice will be based on game titles.

***S14DB*** · 05-21-2013, 11:04 PM

It does totally look like an old VCR.

The TV crap sounds like a rehash of the PSX. I wonder how much will be stymied by the broadcasters ala GoogleTV v1. I was kinda pissed how fast his smart glass worked. Then I realized he would hit the button then act when it finally happened on screen.

The whole serialized disc bothers me. Sounds like you are just buying a license with the data disc. I'm sure it's to thwart the "pirates." I am not 100% if the discs have a write sector on them. This would kill the physical shelf life. I really think it's to make people buy digital copies of the games.
With that said I wonder how long before classic xbox and 360 games show up on the arcade as remastered for XBO...

I take all of it with a grain of salt till the units ship. They are aiming at an moving target till then. I'm sure some of it is feeler specs to gauge public acceptance. See how much they can get away with.

SimpleS14 · 05-22-2013, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrick

Main reason I'm wondering is because I thought I'd never fill up my 40gb ps3, but then pretty much all games started requiring 4gb installs, and now I'm down to 1gb free. Meaning I can't play any new games unless I delete old ones. Thats the one thing I've always hated about the ps3.

You can always upgrade that hard drive and transfer all your games and savedata (assuming you make a backup).

turbobrick · 05-22-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

You can always upgrade that hard drive and transfer all your games and savedata (assuming you make a backup).

I know, I just wish I wouldn't have to.

Also

*exitspeed* · 05-22-2013, 12:59 PM

I'm surprised more people aren't excited about the TV aspect. Man I can't wait to use a tablet as the tv remote.

SimpleS14 · 05-22-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

I'm surprised more people aren't excited about the TV aspect. Man I can't wait to use a tablet as the tv remote.

I'm not excited mainly because I got rid of cable.

I will admit its a bit impressive if they can integrate this on an international scale.

deolio · 05-22-2013, 03:44 PM

redline racer510 · 05-22-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by deolio

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^lol just what I was thinking VHS FTL

***S14DB*** · 05-22-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

I'm surprised more people aren't excited about the TV aspect. Man I can't wait to use a tablet as the tv remote.

Is there a coax connection on the back that can do OTA and QAM? Cable Card?
With the HDMI in and out I think it's going to be doing HDMI pass though over lay like GoogleTV. This means I have to have a Cable or satellite box feeding it. Paying a monthly fee for a box.

I would rather have something like my Boxee that takes coax. I really only use the basic channels with Netflix/Hulu/ect. The new boxee has the tuner in it and now does cloud DVR.
The Boxee TV Offers Unlimited DVR Storage, Dual Tuners, And Netflix For $99 (And $15/Month For The DVR) | TechCrunch

Have you used SmartGlass? Even with my 360 on Ethernet it's lagy as hell. If my phone or tablet fall asleep it disconnects and then I have to wait for it to reconnect. I swear it's faster to wake a controller back up. Really annoying when I have to use the bathroom halfway thru a movie. I bought the little xbox media remote because smartglass pissed me off so much. I'm sure on a windows phone or surface it's a lot faster but, watching that demo I can see him tap the phone then wait a second then act like hit the button when the xbox responds.

theronin · 05-22-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

Is there a coax connection on the back that can do OTA and QAM? Cable Card?
With the HDMI in and out I think it's going to be doing HDMI pass though over lay like GoogleTV. This means I have to have a Cable or satellite box feeding it. Paying a monthly fee for a box.

I would rather have something like my Boxee that takes coax. I really only use the basic channels with Netflix/Hulu/ect. The new boxee has the tuner in it and now does cloud DVR.

Have you used SmartGlass? Even with my 360 on Ethernet it's lagy as hell. If my phone or tablet fall asleep it disconnects and then I have to wait for it to reconnect. I swear it's faster to wake a controller back up. Really annoying when I have to use the bathroom halfway thru a movie. I bought the little xbox media remote because smartglass pissed me off so much. I'm sure on a windows phone or surface it's a lot faster but, watching that demo I can see him tap the phone then wait a second then act like hit the button when the xbox responds.

At the rate technology is presently going I would think/hope that lag is fixed by release.

redline racer510 · 05-22-2013, 07:38 PM

I love microsoft, I use there software everyday, but after windows xp was introduced there product really has been crap IMO.

Mister.E · 05-22-2013, 07:50 PM

I already have DirecTV so all this TV integration does not impress me whatsoever. I do like both of the current consoles, but i have never been fond of paying for XBox Live so most of my play time is on my PS3. To think of it, the only thing i really appreciate is the size of the XBox controller. It looks like they made the PS4 controller a little larger; at least i'm hoping so. I really just can't wait to play Destiny. I'm hoping the specs of the PS4 havent been inflated, as of right now it looks like a really impressive system.

Felipe · 05-22-2013, 08:27 PM

One Person Tried To Put All Those PS4 Pictures Together | Kotaku Australia

wonpoo · 05-23-2013, 01:52 AM

PC is best nuff said...

jk pretty excited about new xbox...and PS4

EvilRB · 05-23-2013, 03:25 AM

*exitspeed* · 05-23-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

Is there a coax connection on the back that can do OTA and QAM? Cable Card?
With the HDMI in and out I think it's going to be doing HDMI pass though over lay like GoogleTV. This means I have to have a Cable or satellite box feeding it. Paying a monthly fee for a box.

I would rather have something like my Boxee that takes coax. I really only use the basic channels with Netflix/Hulu/ect. The new boxee has the tuner in it and now does cloud DVR.
The Boxee TV Offers Unlimited DVR Storage, Dual Tuners, And Netflix For $99 (And $15/Month For The DVR) | TechCrunch

Have you used SmartGlass? Even with my 360 on Ethernet it's lagy as hell. If my phone or tablet fall asleep it disconnects and then I have to wait for it to reconnect. I swear it's faster to wake a controller back up. Really annoying when I have to use the bathroom halfway thru a movie. I bought the little xbox media remote because smartglass pissed me off so much. I'm sure on a windows phone or surface it's a lot faster but, watching that demo I can see him tap the phone then wait a second then act like hit the button when the xbox responds.

I'd think it would connect with an HDMI from your cable box.

I have not used Smart Glass actually. The idea still intrigues me. Maybe things will be much faster with One?? Not sure. The potential is still cool though.

AFSil80 · 05-23-2013, 04:34 PM

***S14DB*** · 05-23-2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

I'd think it would connect with an HDMI from your cable box.

I have not used Smart Glass actually. The idea still intrigues me. Maybe things will be much faster with One?? Not sure. The potential is still cool though.

Yeah, there is better specs on the xbox site now. It's a HDMI overlay(Direct ripoff of GoogleTV) from a cable box or Sat.

Quote:

HDMI Pass-Thru
Connect your cable or satellite
box to your Xbox One and
prepare for lift off. HDMI
pass-thru enables you to watch
TV through your Xbox, which
makes switching inputs seem
almost pre-historic.1

1: Supported television tuner or cable/satellite set top box with HDMI output and HDMI cable required (all sold separately).

Xbox One | What It Is - Xbox.com

Screw that, I'm going upgrade to a Boxee DVR and spend the $500 on a HTPC.

I'm sure the windows phone will be lag-less smartglass...

I love the foot notes on the page:

Quote:

1: Supported television tuner or cable/satellite set top box with HDMI output and HDMI cable required (all sold separately).

2: Xbox One system software uses a significant amount of storage; less internal storage will be available to users. 500 GB = 500 billion bytes.

3: In supported games.

Features and requirements are under development and may change prior to release. Available features and content may vary by country. Broadband internet (ISP fees apply) and advanced TV hardware required. Games sold separately.

I was pissed over the years how my 20gb got ate up slowly by the system. I finally did the BEV hack when it ate over 12gb of the drive for the system.

EvilRB · 05-23-2013, 06:39 PM

Less games more cars...

It's about to be cheaper...

redline racer510 · 05-23-2013, 08:31 PM

Xbox is looking more and more crappy as more info and pics get out.
Looks like Microsoft designed a Blu-ray player that plays games and not a video console that plays Blu-ray. Come on microsoft all that R&D and you cant figure out what people want and like. [email protected] share holders, happy customers assure you don't lose valuable customer clientele.

theronin · 05-23-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by redline racer510

Xbox is looking more and more crappy as more info and pics get out.
Looks like Microsoft designed a Blu-ray player that plays games and not a video console that plays Blu-ray. Come on microsoft all that R&D and you cant figure out what people want and like. [email protected] share holders, happy customers assure you don't lose valuable customer clientele.

Games will be the showcase at E3. Anyone who thinks this wont sell as much if not more than the 360 did are delusional.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 05-23-2013, 10:05 PM

I just hope Sony doesnt fuck up the PS4, I'm still pissed off with the whole PS3 fiasco. Hell, even at this point, still doesnt feel like I've gotten the full potential and usage of my PS3. Atleast compared to my old PS1 and PS2.

***S14DB*** · 05-23-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by theronin

Games will be the showcase at E3. Anyone who thinks this wont sell as much if not more than the 360 did are delusional.

If I have to buy two because the first one over heats then maybe. Sell more than the Wii and I'll be impressed...

TougeLove · 05-23-2013, 10:38 PM

or we could all read a book and educate ourselves? then maybe we would all move to the bmw or evo forums?

redline racer510 · 05-23-2013, 11:24 PM

[QUOTE=theronin;5282510]Games will be the showcase at E3. Anyone who thinks this wont sell as much if not more than the 360 did are delusional.[/QUOTE
I rather be delusional and read a book than get my hopes up for a decent product from Microsoft.

theronin · 05-24-2013, 12:50 AM

[QUOTE=redline racer510;5282709]

Quote:

Originally Posted by theronin

Games will be the showcase at E3. Anyone who thinks this wont sell as much if not more than the 360 did are delusional.[/QUOTE
I rather be delusional and read a book than get my hopes up for a decent product from Microsoft.

So why are you posting here. You better be posting from a Mac or on Linux.

redline racer510 · 05-24-2013, 09:39 AM

[QUOTE=theronin;5282795]

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Originally Posted by redline racer510

So why are you posting here. You better be posting from a Mac or on Linux.

BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH. I can like and dislike what ever I want and post from whatever OS, you know I am specifically talking about XBOX quit going off subject with this filler(post just to post). Keep it on topic and give your like dislike opinions regarding XBOX. I don't care whether you like or dislike Xbox, I know what I am not going to buy(Xbox) this year. BTW I hope you know the delusional part was sarcasm, I'm just checking. Delusional sarcasm FTMFW, aw man you got me typing filler in this thread.

*exitspeed* · 05-24-2013, 10:52 AM

It's not that serious guys. lol

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*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	It does totally look like an old VCR. The TV crap sounds like a rehash of the PSX. I wonder how much will be stymied by the broadcasters ala GoogleTV v1. I was kinda pissed how fast his smart glass worked. Then I realized he would hit the button then act when it finally happened on screen. The whole serialized disc bothers me. Sounds like you are just buying a license with the data disc. I'm sure it's to thwart the "pirates." I am not 100% if the discs have a write sector on them. This would kill the physical shelf life. I really think it's to make people buy digital copies of the games. With that said I wonder how long before classic xbox and 360 games show up on the arcade as remastered for XBO... I take all of it with a grain of salt till the units ship. They are aiming at an moving target till then. I'm sure some of it is feeler specs to gauge public acceptance. See how much they can get away with. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

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exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'm surprised more people aren't excited about the TV aspect. Man I can't wait to use a tablet as the tv remote. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

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Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 36 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	I already have DirecTV so all this TV integration does not impress me whatsoever. I do like both of the current consoles, but i have never been fond of paying for XBox Live so most of my play time is on my PS3. To think of it, the only thing i really appreciate is the size of the XBox controller. It looks like they made the PS4 controller a little larger; at least i'm hoping so. I really just can't wait to play Destiny. I'm hoping the specs of the PS4 havent been inflated, as of right now it looks like a really impressive system.

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redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Xbox is looking more and more crappy as more info and pics get out. Looks like Microsoft designed a Blu-ray player that plays games and not a video console that plays Blu-ray. Come on microsoft all that R&D and you cant figure out what people want and like. [email protected] share holders, happy customers assure you don't lose valuable customer clientele. __________________ WARNING: User has a low tolerance for stupidity. Post at your own risk.

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redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	[QUOTE=theronin;5282510]Games will be the showcase at E3. Anyone who thinks this wont sell as much if not more than the 360 did are delusional.[/QUOTE I rather be delusional and read a book than get my hopes up for a decent product from Microsoft. __________________ WARNING: User has a low tolerance for stupidity. Post at your own risk.

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