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WISH ONE · 04-21-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Omarius Maximus

The Hyundai won because it was the top of the line model. 30+k. vs. the 25k Mustang. If they were comparing performance coupes, they could have easily done the Mustang GT at 30k vs. the Hyundai Genesis.

For 25k, you can't get a remotely competitive Genesis. You're stuck with the slow as hell 4 banger.

Performance wise, the V6 Mustang mops the floor with both, and I'd sacrifice "feel" or any other subjective rationalizations if it means 6k in my bank account.

You also arent taking into consideration that the mustang used had all the gt500 bushings also those pirelli tires pull a significant higher amount of lateral Gs than the Genesis RE-summer tires. Its sort of an unfair advantage if you ask me, not to mention those pirellis alone decreased lap times by 6-7 seconds.

codyace · 04-21-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 240sxcure

Not quite.

I personally know the guy who built that car, before he sold it

Lets just say that car is MINT and the original builder has a rediculous collection of bad ass 80's cars.

I till LOL at these forum kids who think anything American sucks.

Fox Body's out powered and performed anything near them in price from their time

C5 and C6 Corevettes make cars 5x their value look slow

and now the trend continues, with the new Mustang being 'on par' with the m3. 'The ultimate driving machine' is a sweet car, but at the end of the day, a truck go fast junky will be sitting behind that 5.0

Omarius Maximus · 04-21-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WISH ONE

You also arent taking into consideration that the mustang used had all the gt500 bushings also those pirelli tires pull a significant higher amount of lateral Gs than the Genesis RE-summer tires. Its sort of an unfair advantage if you ask me, not to mention those pirellis alone decreased lap times by 6-7 seconds.

What? It's a 2k package on top of the 23k base price. How is that unfair? Still undercuts the Genesis by 5-6k.

BOROSUN · 04-21-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VROOOM

oooh in your face!

WISH ONE · 04-22-2010, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omarius Maximus

What? It's a 2k package on top of the 23k base price. How is that unfair? Still undercuts the Genesis by 5-6k.

Price wise you could always get an Rspec, has all the track goodies, weighs 3300lbs, $23,750... but only 2 liter at the moment.
To each his own, honestly i dont even want to get involved lol.
The mustang is awesome and seems like a cool car, but id rather pick the genesis anyday for my own reasons(opinions) and for others that I cannot disclose.

On another note Im down for the Fox's, i used to really want one. one day ill get one for a project.

*exitspeed* · 04-22-2010, 07:57 AM

I'd rather not have either and wait for the FT86.

I like the Genesis more then the Mustang but not enough to buy one.

VROOOM · 04-22-2010, 08:35 AM

i think we will have to wait and see about the FT-86, seems they might now be all they are cracked up to be

from autoblog

However, a report from Autocar claims that higher than expected development costs could derail any dreams of a good looking, inexpensive FT-86. The British site sites unnamed Toyota sources as saying that the base price of the little coupe has shot from £13,000 ($20,000 in U.S. funds) to £15,000 ($23,000 U.S.), with a range-topper coming in at £17,000 ($26,000 U.S.). Further, Autocar reports that Toyota sports vehicle department head Tetsuya Tada says that the company has increased the targeted FT-86 age group has been bumped by a full 10 years from the 30s to the 40s.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/21/i...rice-on-ft-86/

ronmcdon · 04-22-2010, 10:56 AM

Target group bumped up from 30s to 40s, lol.
Which probably means its targeted towards Toyotas existing demographic.
(cars that are comfy & pratical, but questionably fun to drive).

Makes sense kinda.
Toyota has a large stake in Subaru.
Just have Subaru make fun cars.
Toyota continues to serve the family & elderly customer base.

Speculation aside, id just wait to see what they come up with.
Its difficult to be optimistic however, given Toyotas past efforts.
(borrowing others ideas and not necc doing it any better).

Still, i wouldnt mind if they did something cool for a change.
Doesnt hurt to have another nice car on the market

ronmcdon · 04-22-2010, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WISH ONE

Price wise you could always get an Rspec, has all the track goodies, weighs 3300lbs, $23,750... but only 2 liter at the moment.
To each his own, honestly i dont even want to get involved lol.
The mustang is awesome and seems like a cool car, but id rather pick the genesis anyday for my own reasons(opinions) and for others that I cannot disclose.

On another note Im down for the Fox's, i used to really want one. one day ill get one for a project.

think a lot of it boils down to whether not you want to mod your car.
Its fair to say the 2.0 R is pretty much a platform just for that.

I know the 4B11 engine from the evo x is fairly resposive to boltons & software.
Wonder how the Genesis counterpart fares.
I doubt itll be cheap to extract more power out of the Mustang 3.7
If you want to keep things stock & have good mpg the Mustang v6 is great

*exitspeed* · 04-22-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VROOOM

i think we will have to wait and see about the FT-86, seems they might now be all they are cracked up to be

from autoblog

However, a report from Autocar claims that higher than expected development costs could derail any dreams of a good looking, inexpensive FT-86. The British site sites unnamed Toyota sources as saying that the base price of the little coupe has shot from £13,000 ($20,000 in U.S. funds) to £15,000 ($23,000 U.S.), with a range-topper coming in at £17,000 ($26,000 U.S.). Further, Autocar reports that Toyota sports vehicle department head Tetsuya Tada says that the company has increased the targeted FT-86 age group has been bumped by a full 10 years from the 30s to the 40s.

It's Not Even Out Yet: Toyota reportedly upping price on FT-86 — Autoblog

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Target group bumped up from 30s to 40s, lol.
Which probably means its targeted towards Toyotas existing demographic.
(cars that are comfy & pratical, but questionably fun to drive).

Makes sense kinda.
Toyota has a large stake in Subaru.
Just have Subaru make fun cars.
Toyota continues to serve the family & elderly customer base.

Speculation aside, id just wait to see what they come up with.
Its difficult to be optimistic however, given Toyotas past efforts.
(borrowing others ideas and not necc doing it any better).

Still, i wouldnt mind if they did something cool for a change.
Doesnt hurt to have another nice car on the market

That is all just speculation at this point. We will just have to wait and see.

Bubbles · 04-22-2010, 07:47 PM

You will never convince me V6 mustang sounds cool.

I don't care if it has a million pounds of torque and comes with a toothless chick that blows you.

ronmcdon · 04-22-2010, 09:35 PM

well it doesn't seem right not to get a V8 Mustang, or any muscle car for that matter.
(I know I wouldn't skimp there considering the $6-$4k premium).

however, it's a pretty sensible choice considering th fuel economy & possible insurance savings.
I won't scoff at anyone who drives a '11 V6 mustang.
the old v6 was an outdated POS long due for an overhaul.

*exitspeed* · 04-23-2010, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

well it doesn't seem right not to get a V8 Mustang, or any muscle car for that matter.
(I know I wouldn't skimp there considering the $6-$4k premium).

however, it's a pretty sensible choice considering th fuel economy & possible insurance savings.
I won't scoff at anyone who drives a '11 V6 mustang.
the old v6 was an outdated POS long due for an overhaul.

I agree. I'd NEVER EVER EVER buy a V6 muscle car instead of the V8. It's like a hot chick with no vagina. It's a muscle car without the muscle.

sirfallsalot243 · 04-23-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Hell someone sponsors someone with a free car fuck ya they are going to drive it. LOL

Does that mean the car is really that good? Does that mean the person honestly likes the car enough to own it themselves? Maybe but not always.

Perfect example: You think Ken Block ENJOYS having his ass handed to him in his FIESTA? If Subaru were still involved with WRC, theres no fucking way he'd be driving a ford.

BBSHT240 · 04-23-2010, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Only reason Vaughn Gitten jr drives a Mustang is because Ford is paying for it.

Hell someone sponsors someone with a free car fuck ya they are going to drive it. LOL

Does that mean the car is really that good? Does that mean the person honestly likes the car enough to own it themselves? Maybe but not always.

Its really cool to see some of the interest here with regards to the new Mustang.

I will always have a special place in my heart for Nissan s chassis's ( I still own 3 of them) I definitely shared the same opinion a lot of you seem to have based on the traditional Mustang stereotypes the majority of us have grown up with and are mentioned here at one point.

For the record I do not drive a Mustang because "Ford pays for it" I decided I wanted to drive a Mustang well before any Ford support was in the picture or even dreamed about. I loved with the way the 2005 looked and once I drove one I fell in love. In 2005 I started competing in one and in 2008 Ford came in the picture and since then we have built a great relationship. There is some really good people that work on the Mustang team and they really "get it" I have been in multiple meeting's with the team and they have asked a lot of really good questions and seem to be genuinely interested in my feedback. it is obvious by the new v6 and v8 performance and price point that they are moving in the right direction. I think this thread is proof of that and it is really cool to see everyone opening there minds to the car a bit more, especially this crowd.

And yes I do own one myself- once you drive one its hard for it not to be a must have. Not a sales pitch its truly how I felt. I drove the 2010 across the US last year and I had to have a street mustang.

As far as the "NO IRS" comments, when I asked the engineers "why not an IRS?" They simply redirect the question "Why should we make the car more expensive just to ad an IRS, The current 3 link live axle with a panhard out performs almost every IRS car in the class and that's a fact. Based on the fact that both the new V6 and V8 Mustang are extremely fun to drive, relatively affordable and performs awesome in road racing, drifting and of course drag racing,The only answer I came up with that made sense related to the majority of car owners is that "people just want to say they have IRS because solid axle is viewed as ancient".

I would like to ask you all what would you argument for wanting IRS be? Aside from hardcore racing applications how and why is having IRS better other then solid axle is an old?

Go test drive one and tell me you don't want one, I will be shocked! It looks alot bigger and heavier then it feels behind the wheel.

I also wanted to share the Mustang RTR with you guys. This is a dealer installed package that I have designed and manufactured. It is something that I feel will bridge the gap between traditional mustang styling and the way most of our generation likes to get down with regards to styling. It will be available in May at select Ford Dealerships. Here is a link to a speed hunters feature on the car (the blue stripes are now matte black) CAR FEATURE>> MUSTANG RTR - Speedhunters .

Anyway I just wanted to chime in. As a long time member of the Nissan community and both a Nissan and Ford enthusiast it is cool to see people especially this crowd opening there minds to Mustang.

I would love any feedback good or bad.

Have fun!

Vaughn

BustedS13 · 04-23-2010, 12:07 PM

oh eeew mustangs, hella fail, doesn't bring cute lil boys to my bedroom like a nissan with hello kitty stenciled on the hood
horsepower is dumb, straight line performance is dumb, being a highway monster is dumb, driving a car that can take a daily beating is dumb
mustangs are so drift

g00se · 04-23-2010, 12:47 PM

I stopped by a Ford dealership today and while waiting for my daily POS 1997 explorers leaking rear diff to be replaced i checked one of these bad boys out. And i have to say i was really amazed. I really like the interior, gone it seems is the day of the shitty domestic interior, (it could be that after sitting in my 10 year old s14 that any newer interior may seem like a huge improvement but it is actually pretty clean) especially the retro gauges. The seats are well bolstered, and the dash layout was surprisingly elegant in a retro kind of way. I didnt have the time to test drive it but the roaring sound of a v8 > i4.

drift freaq · 04-23-2010, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBSHT240

Its really cool to see some of the interest here with regards to the new Mustang.

I will always have a special place in my heart for Nissan s chassis's ( I still own 3 of them) I definitely shared the same opinion a lot of you seem to have based on the traditional Mustang stereotypes the majority of us have grown up with and are mentioned here at one point.

For the record I do not drive a Mustang because "Ford pays for it" I decided I wanted to drive a Mustang well before any Ford support was in the picture or even dreamed about. I loved with the way the 2005 looked and once I drove one I fell in love. In 2005 I started competing in one and in 2008 Ford came in the picture and since then we have built a great relationship. There is some really good people that work on the Mustang team and they really "get it" I have been in multiple meeting's with the team and they have asked a lot of really good questions and seem to be genuinely interested in my feedback. it is obvious by the new v6 and v8 performance and price point that they are moving in the right direction. I think this thread is proof of that and it is really cool to see everyone opening there minds to the car a bit more, especially this crowd.

And yes I do own one myself- once you drive one its hard for it not to be a must have. Not a sales pitch its truly how I felt. I drove the 2010 across the US last year and I had to have a street mustang.

As far as the "NO IRS" comments, when I asked the engineers "why not an IRS?" They simply redirect the question "Why should we make the car more expensive just to ad an IRS, The current 3 link live axle with a panhard out performs almost every IRS car in the class and that's a fact. Based on the fact that both the new V6 and V8 Mustang are extremely fun to drive, relatively affordable and performs awesome in road racing, drifting and of course drag racing,The only answer I came up with that made sense related to the majority of car owners is that "people just want to say they have IRS because solid axle is viewed as ancient".

I would like to ask you all what would you argument for wanting IRS be? Aside from hardcore racing applications how and why is having IRS better other then solid axle is an old?

Go test drive one and tell me you don't want one, I will be shocked! It looks alot bigger and heavier then it feels behind the wheel.

I also wanted to share the Mustang RTR with you guys. This is a dealer installed package that I have designed and manufactured. It is something that I feel will bridge the gap between traditional mustang styling and the way most of our generation likes to get down with regards to styling. It will be available in May at select Ford Dealerships. Here is a link to a speed hunters feature on the car (the blue stripes are now matte black) CAR FEATURE>> MUSTANG RTR - Speedhunters .

Anyway I just wanted to chime in. As a long time member of the Nissan community and both a Nissan and Ford enthusiast it is cool to see people especially this crowd opening there minds to Mustang.

I would love any feedback good or bad.

Have fun!

Vaughn

Wow I stand corrected. Thank you Vaughn for this post. I respect completely your viewpoint here. I owe you an apology for my assumption.

What you are doing with Ford and the Mustang is indeed cool. I would love nothing more than American car manufacturers build a good competitive car.

America can do a lot of stuff technology wise and we do lead the world in technology. Now before anyone goes and tries to naysay that its true.

I also am not so much trying to say America is superior so much as making a call out to American Automobile manufacturers.They can build great cars and design great cars. Just get the UAW out of they way LOL and in GM's case management. LOL

Again thank you Vaughn and Ford for trying to make a difference.

Perhaps I will go test drive a Mustang. That RTR looks damn nice. Yup I said that. It is one of the nicest reiterations of current Mustangs I have seen.

*exitspeed* · 04-23-2010, 01:14 PM

Man if GM would pay me to drift a CTS Wagon I'd be ALL THE FUCK OVER THAT! lol.

Oh, or a G8 GXP.

lucky7 · 04-24-2010, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1_Bad_Silvia

u know who the ignorant person is? a person who depends on the news & not his/her own eyes. if i didnt know what im talking about, i wouldnt say anything out of no where...you really think a v6 mustang is as good as infiniti or german cars...just think for 1 mintue..than answer..

the FIRST V6 model came out less than a week ago, because i know the owners son. the GT has not been released to the public yet. the more clear it is that you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about. and don't get mad because that's my opinion.

drftwerks · 04-24-2010, 04:54 PM

best mustang ever.

lucky7 · 04-24-2010, 05:55 PM

i <3 SN95 cobras.

i want a white vert, tan interior, dropped a couple inches with a turbo under the hood.

peetiewonder · 04-24-2010, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

You could date a chick that's a perfect 10. But if she sucks in bed that freaky ass bitch that you think is an 8 is gonna look a whole lot better.

Not quite the same thing, but I like where your head is. My point is that if they can't say anything more than the genesis wins because we like it even though the Mustang beat it like a redheaded stepchild, then that's not grounds enough in my book to declare victory and go out and celebrate.

I can honestly say I love my mustang, probably a little too much but if theres a better car i'll admit it... it just ain't in the under 30k price range.

ronmcdon · 04-24-2010, 11:34 PM

Went to the local Ford dealer today hoping to test drive the '11 Mustangs.
Unfortunately they said the '11 will come out around 1st/2nd week of May.
(12 days from today).

The '10 GT's are bieng offered w/ $1k cash back & 0% APR for 60 mo financing.
Not really worth it imo considering the '11 V6 models will offer almost the same performance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBSHT240

Its really cool to see some of the interest here with regards to the new Mustang.

I will always have a special place in my heart for Nissan s chassis's ( I still own 3 of them) I definitely shared the same opinion a lot of you seem to have based on the traditional Mustang stereotypes the majority of us have grown up with and are mentioned here at one point.

For the record I do not drive a Mustang because "Ford pays for it" I decided I wanted to drive a Mustang well before any Ford support was in the picture or even dreamed about. I loved with the way the 2005 looked and once I drove one I fell in love. In 2005 I started competing in one and in 2008 Ford came in the picture and since then we have built a great relationship. There is some really good people that work on the Mustang team and they really "get it" I have been in multiple meeting's with the team and they have asked a lot of really good questions and seem to be genuinely interested in my feedback. it is obvious by the new v6 and v8 performance and price point that they are moving in the right direction. I think this thread is proof of that and it is really cool to see everyone opening there minds to the car a bit more, especially this crowd.

And yes I do own one myself- once you drive one its hard for it not to be a must have. Not a sales pitch its truly how I felt. I drove the 2010 across the US last year and I had to have a street mustang.

As far as the "NO IRS" comments, when I asked the engineers "why not an IRS?" They simply redirect the question "Why should we make the car more expensive just to ad an IRS, The current 3 link live axle with a panhard out performs almost every IRS car in the class and that's a fact. Based on the fact that both the new V6 and V8 Mustang are extremely fun to drive, relatively affordable and performs awesome in road racing, drifting and of course drag racing,The only answer I came up with that made sense related to the majority of car owners is that "people just want to say they have IRS because solid axle is viewed as ancient".

I would like to ask you all what would you argument for wanting IRS be? Aside from hardcore racing applications how and why is having IRS better other then solid axle is an old?

Go test drive one and tell me you don't want one, I will be shocked! It looks alot bigger and heavier then it feels behind the wheel.

I also wanted to share the Mustang RTR with you guys. This is a dealer installed package that I have designed and manufactured. It is something that I feel will bridge the gap between traditional mustang styling and the way most of our generation likes to get down with regards to styling. It will be available in May at select Ford Dealerships. Here is a link to a speed hunters feature on the car (the blue stripes are now matte black) CAR FEATURE>> MUSTANG RTR - Speedhunters .

Anyway I just wanted to chime in. As a long time member of the Nissan community and both a Nissan and Ford enthusiast it is cool to see people especially this crowd opening there minds to Mustang.

I would love any feedback good or bad.

Have fun!

Vaughn

About the lack of the IRS, honestly if they can do without out & maintain impressive performance results then so be it.
It appears to deliver and that's all that matters imo.

The RTR pkg looks nice & the photos were great, thanks for sharing.
Any idea of the approximate cost?

BBSHT240 · 04-25-2010, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

The RTR pkg looks nice & the photos were great, thanks for sharing.
Any idea of the approximate cost?

The RTR package is $7895 on top of the price of a new Mustang. A V6 version will be released in the future.[/I]

codyace · 04-25-2010, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBSHT240

I would like to ask you all what would you argument for wanting IRS be? Aside from hardcore racing applications how and why is having IRS better other then solid axle is an old?

I think much of the 'anti live axle' crew are the same guys that regard pushrods as complete garbage and junk (especially the LSx series haters). With anything in 'forum life' it seems that those who often scream and shout the loudest, often have the least experience (if any usually) with what they are so adamant about.

I would venture to guess that galf of the people against live axle cars, have never even been in a car with one, this side of an F150, nor have they been in a modified one at that. I've been in some SERIOUS hell rides in American Iron X cars during HPDE days, and can say that a properly handling car, is just that...I'm not to concerned over what parts are under in (in regard to design), just so long as it's efficient.

PS: I absolutely love watching your vidoes with that Mustang -- I'm personally not a drift guy (but I enjoy watching it) but boy oh boy does that car sound completely badass, and looks great with the ass end hanging out. "Makes me proud to be an American" as they say haha

lucky7 · 04-26-2010, 07:26 AM

i keep coming back to this thread. this is me driving the first street version of the 2010 Roush 427R.

me again, driving the Roush Stage 3.

fun cars for sure. should be even better N/A.

0100 · 04-26-2010, 02:23 PM

Not sure if any of you guys are aware of the Ford Mustang BIW (body in white) program that has been around for a very long time. If you plan on building a race car that may be the way to go. Ford Racing starts taking orders for â€™10 BIW Mustangs | Miscellaneous Blog & Discussions at 5.0 Mustang and Super Fords Magazine

No clue when or if they will be taking 2011 orders. Could build a road racing beast.

BurdenInOurHands · 04-26-2010, 03:55 PM

I assume the one on the right is built to something similar to GT1/Trans Am rules...fantastic looking car and undoubtedly wicked fast.

MikeisNissan · 04-26-2010, 06:27 PM

holy shit the one on the right is hot!

04-22-2010, 07:57 AM	#96
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'd rather not have either and wait for the FT86. I like the Genesis more then the Mustang but not enough to buy one. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

04-22-2010, 07:47 PM	#101
Bubbles Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Location, Location. Posts: 3,320 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	You will never convince me V6 mustang sounds cool. I don't care if it has a million pounds of torque and comes with a toothless chick that blows you. __________________ For all the world knows, my vagina could be moist with desire as we speak.

04-23-2010, 12:07 PM	#106
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh eeew mustangs, hella fail, doesn't bring cute lil boys to my bedroom like a nissan with hello kitty stenciled on the hood horsepower is dumb, straight line performance is dumb, being a highway monster is dumb, driving a car that can take a daily beating is dumb mustangs are so drift __________________

04-23-2010, 01:14 PM	#109
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Man if GM would pay me to drift a CTS Wagon I'd be ALL THE FUCK OVER THAT! lol. Oh, or a G8 GXP. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

04-24-2010, 04:54 PM	#111
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	best mustang ever. __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

04-22-2010, 10:56 AM	#98
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Target group bumped up from 30s to 40s, lol. Which probably means its targeted towards Toyotas existing demographic. (cars that are comfy & pratical, but questionably fun to drive). Makes sense kinda. Toyota has a large stake in Subaru. Just have Subaru make fun cars. Toyota continues to serve the family & elderly customer base. Speculation aside, id just wait to see what they come up with. Its difficult to be optimistic however, given Toyotas past efforts. (borrowing others ideas and not necc doing it any better). Still, i wouldnt mind if they did something cool for a change. Doesnt hurt to have another nice car on the market

04-22-2010, 09:35 PM	#102
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	well it doesn't seem right not to get a V8 Mustang, or any muscle car for that matter. (I know I wouldn't skimp there considering the $6-$4k premium). however, it's a pretty sensible choice considering th fuel economy & possible insurance savings. I won't scoff at anyone who drives a '11 V6 mustang. the old v6 was an outdated POS long due for an overhaul.

04-23-2010, 12:47 PM	#107
g00se Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: CA Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I stopped by a Ford dealership today and while waiting for my daily POS 1997 explorers leaking rear diff to be replaced i checked one of these bad boys out. And i have to say i was really amazed. I really like the interior, gone it seems is the day of the shitty domestic interior, (it could be that after sitting in my 10 year old s14 that any newer interior may seem like a huge improvement but it is actually pretty clean) especially the retro gauges. The seats are well bolstered, and the dash layout was surprisingly elegant in a retro kind of way. I didnt have the time to test drive it but the roaring sound of a v8 > i4.

04-24-2010, 05:55 PM	#112
lucky7 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oakland (OT) Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 3,353 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: lucky7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i <3 SN95 cobras. i want a white vert, tan interior, dropped a couple inches with a turbo under the hood. __________________ -Dane

04-26-2010, 07:26 AM	#117
lucky7 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oakland (OT) Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 3,353 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: lucky7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i keep coming back to this thread. this is me driving the first street version of the 2010 Roush 427R. me again, driving the Roush Stage 3. fun cars for sure. should be even better N/A. __________________ -Dane

04-26-2010, 02:23 PM	#118
0100 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New England Posts: 1,581 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Not sure if any of you guys are aware of the Ford Mustang BIW (body in white) program that has been around for a very long time. If you plan on building a race car that may be the way to go. Ford Racing starts taking orders for â€™10 BIW Mustangs \| Miscellaneous Blog & Discussions at 5.0 Mustang and Super Fords Magazine No clue when or if they will be taking 2011 orders. Could build a road racing beast. __________________ TougeHero.com l SilviaV8forums.com

04-26-2010, 03:55 PM	#119
BurdenInOurHands Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Age: 30 Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I assume the one on the right is built to something similar to GT1/Trans Am rules...fantastic looking car and undoubtedly wicked fast.

04-26-2010, 06:27 PM	#120
MikeisNissan Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Earth, Section 301 Posts: 3,730 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	holy shit the one on the right is hot! __________________ 因果関係の流れ

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