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bardabe · 06-22-2015, 11:54 PM

~~~~~~ EDIT: Photobucket fucked my build thread, like they did for half the internet SO I'm re-hosting all the pictures and will slowly fix them. ~~~~~~

I'm not very active on the forums, I spend most of my time working on customer cars so it's actually not often that I get to turn a wrench or burn metal in my own personal car, specially now since the Z32 shares custody of my finances with my R32.

anyway, bought a VVTi 2JZ From LA JDM, and a bunch of goodies for it. ID1050's, Maverick CD009 Adapter, Maverick Flywheel, BWS300, Timing belt and such. It seemed like a great idea at the time, there wasn't very many JZ32's floating around the web and the JZ is a prooven work horse.

-Juan

offthewall · 06-23-2015, 05:23 PM

The Z32 and JZ make such a great pair. Looking forward to the rest of this build.

PoorMans180SX · 06-24-2015, 07:36 AM

This is going to be awesome.

future · 06-24-2015, 09:11 AM

No matter what engine thus will be a sick build

AzS13hatch · 06-24-2015, 11:58 AM

I haven't done much in depth research on Z32's, what is the reason for going to an NA subframe? Also for what its worth, I have the Maverick kit on my S13 behind a 1JZ and I love it. The quality is top notch and had to make no adjustments or fabrication of my own (besides shaving the bell housing to compensate). IMO it looks much cleaner than the Collins kit, although you won't ever see it once in the car.

Hatemy7 · 06-24-2015, 12:39 PM

This is nice. ive never seen this swap into this bad boy

MrFairlady · 06-27-2015, 01:41 PM

Im down like 4flats! Z32.
Can't wait to see whats done.

chank · 06-27-2015, 04:21 PM

Sure are a lot of z32/ 2jz swaps going on. Good luck to you and i'll be looking forward to your progress. heres an old pic of my swap, also vvti, she's a little bit further along now but still lots to do (mock up motor in pic).

bardabe · 07-03-2015, 05:38 PM

Expect some updates over the weekend, I have decided to make a custom tubular cross member to be able to sit the engine as low as possible to avoid any hood notching and retaining maximum oil capacity. don't know how far I'll get since we have a holiday weekend and my access to materials will be limited, BUT i do have this teaser from last night

(got bigger turbo)

bardabe · 09-21-2015, 10:40 AM

So I kinda sold the 2JZ...

spooled240 · 09-21-2015, 11:07 AM

Anthony has a smoked vq37hr that may be salvageable. Just throwin some ideas out there lol

Jissan · 09-21-2015, 01:22 PM

LOL WTH

What's the plan now? I can't say I don't love the VQs, but the vq37hr have massive VVEL solenoids on the back of the heads that push the motor far forward and jack with proper subframe placement on S chassis. Not sure about the Z32 subframe & firewall layout though.

Hatemy7 · 09-21-2015, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bardabe

So I kinda sold the 2JZ...

WTF????

the fk are you going to do now???

bardabe · 09-22-2015, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatemy7

WTF????

the fk are you going to do now???

Test fitted the 2JZ, wasn't going to be practical for the use of the car. The amount of cutting into the cross member and / or the oil pan would sacrifice lots of structural rigidly, ground clearance & oiling issues. So it's just not a good fit for anything other than a few short highway pulls or shirt drift run.

Currently waiting for a good virgin or close to virgin S14/15 SR20 to pop up.

bardabe · 10-31-2015, 04:28 PM

So I kinda bought an SR.

collegekid · 11-01-2015, 08:03 PM

What did that cost you if you don't mind?
I got my Kouki Sr motorset for 2600 shipped, kinda wondering what front clips cost today

PoorMans180SX · 11-01-2015, 08:22 PM

I've never really understood the draw of the notchtops unless you're going to keep them very stockish. Any particular reason you got one?

Corbic · 11-01-2015, 08:37 PM

Utter disappointment

bardabe · 11-02-2015, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collegekid

What did that cost you if you don't mind?
I got my Kouki Sr motorset for 2600 shipped, kinda wondering what front clips cost today

It was a personal hook up, can't really discuss the details on it but for something like what I got with today's exchange rates expect to pay around $3500 or so. Mine was obviously cheaper because I wholesale and been buying engines and clips from them for 10+ years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

I've never really understood the draw of the notchtops unless you're going to keep them very stockish. Any particular reason you got one?

I don't plan to go apeshit right away, so the added torque of the VTC is really nice. I might do a mild turbo upgrade (EFR 7670) but more than likely once I shake the car down and get some real seat time in a year or two I'll be going VET. With the 13 engines the lack of low end and top end kills me and I would have to go VET from the get go. To me seat time and chassis setup is more important than a wild setup at the moment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbic

Utter disappointment

Sorry man, the amount of cutting and compromising the JZ swap into the Z32 makes people do is not something I'm willing to do. (Loosing 95% of the middle of your cross member or 50% of your oil pan) with the added weight and tq it would not end well for my car (log term)

Reece · 11-02-2015, 08:00 AM

SR Z32s are way cool, super excited to see this

Corbic · 11-02-2015, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bardabe

Sorry man, the amount of cutting and compromising the JZ swap into the Z32 makes people do is not something I'm willing to do. (Loosing 95% of the middle of your cross member or 50% of your oil pan) with the added weight and tq it would not end well for my car (log term)

So instead your making massive compromises on displacement, strength and power to shoehorn a SR in there...

VG30DETTs are a dime a dozen.

There is also the RB25, which is shorter than a 2J and of course *dramatic pause*

The LS1.

bardabe · 11-02-2015, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbic

So instead you're making massive compromises on displacement, strength and power to shoehorn a SR in there...

VG30DETTs are a dime a dozen.

There is also the RB25, which is shorter than a 2J and of course *dramatic pause*

The LS1.

Nah, I just don't want to butcher my car. I've done a couple SRZ32's and actually really like the way it fits and feels. I'm going to have fun with it and be very happy.

P.S. If I ever go LSX I'll do it buying a corvette or a CTS-V

collegekid · 11-02-2015, 01:13 PM

If you want to get rid of that side mount setup I am in need of one.
I just want to start out stock and slowly add modifications to see how it changes.

Plus I would rather buy an inexpensive Smic setup vs the $600 greddy and blitz kits that are out there right now (which are really tempting me )

bardabe · 11-02-2015, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collegekid

If you want to get rid of that side mount setup I am in need of one.
I just want to start out stock and slowly add modifications to see how it changes.

Plus I would rather buy an inexpensive Smic setup vs the $600 greddy and blitz kits that are out there right now (which are really tempting me )

yes that is actually for sale, PM me.

bardabe · 12-07-2015, 03:29 PM

So I have progress,

I got to pull the engine out of the clip and sold the transmission. I still need to get rid of the five lug, the RHD stuff, Speed sensor & basically everything else from the clip that i do not need for the swap. while that happens I put the SR on the stand and took it apart. I stripped it of all components this past weekend and took the head off. from initial looks i was a bit skeptic since the engine oil looked dirty. I have never had a bad engine from my supplier so I took the head off and just as expected the cylinder-walls pretty much look perfect. I was able to clean the top of the pistons with a simple spray of parts wash and a rag, only one wipe and the pistons were pretty spotless. since I'm re-sealing the engine and changing out all the gaskets I replaced the factory composite gasket with a 1.5MM Tomei head gasket & brand new Nissan head bolts. I also re-sealed the front timing cover / oil pump, I still need to re-paint the valve cover so i can finish sealing the engine so I can clean the outside of all the old leaks & that weird white calcium build up.

I've been stashing parts for quite sometime now, I should have my bell-housing back from machine shop sometime this week. (Z33 gear box) so I can mate my transmission to the block and begin fabricating motor mounts. just today my ATS Clutch arrived from Japan. (thank you Yasu!) so I'm super stoked for that, i don't think I'll ever have to worry for a slipping clutch. thanks to George over at Maverick Motorsports I won't ever have to worry about breaking a transmission thanks to his SR20 to Z33 adapter as well. I hope to this week finish bleeding the lifters & get the valve train all back together. I still need to make up my mind on what I want to do with the valve cover, ultimately I'd like to send my Valve cover to MCR Factory when i forge the engine & do the top mount turbo but i need to figure out something for now.

Hoffman5982 · 12-07-2015, 07:03 PM

Do you have a hookup for MCR valve covers? I looked into it in the past and was told it would cost about $4-500, and they only like dealing with new valve covers

Lees_Garage · 12-07-2015, 07:27 PM

Glad to see the progress Juan! DM'ing you now about the 5-lug.

bardabe · 01-04-2016, 01:39 PM

Unfortunately I haven't received my bellhousing back from machining so I can make motor mounts and other fab work so I've had to compromise. This weekend I was able to make the hangers for my exhaust, I also took the apexi gauges and installed them. I re-loomed the apexi harness with milspec loom for a cleaner look through the windshield and ran all the wiring. I also had a chance to mock up the Intercooler mounting and I'm really thinking of making an aluminum bumper beam with tabs for the IC. Not sure how traditional I want to do the mounting on that.

-Juan

RalliartRsX · 01-04-2016, 01:54 PM

Timeless look of the Z!

Freeing up weight and complexity on the front is the way ahead me thinks!

future · 01-04-2016, 03:59 PM

This is hawt

06-22-2015, 11:54 PM	#1
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Bardabe's Project SR-Z32: SR20VET Chronicles ~~~~~~ EDIT: Photobucket fucked my build thread, like they did for half the internet SO I'm re-hosting all the pictures and will slowly fix them. ~~~~~~ I'm not very active on the forums, I spend most of my time working on customer cars so it's actually not often that I get to turn a wrench or burn metal in my own personal car, specially now since the Z32 shares custody of my finances with my R32. anyway, bought a VVTi 2JZ From LA JDM, and a bunch of goodies for it. ID1050's, Maverick CD009 Adapter, Maverick Flywheel, BWS300, Timing belt and such. It seemed like a great idea at the time, there wasn't very many JZ32's floating around the web and the JZ is a prooven work horse. -Juan __________________ Review Thread Last edited by bardabe; 11-21-2018 at 11:50 PM.. Reason: Photo bucket fucked thread.

06-23-2015, 05:23 PM	#2
offthewall Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Paw Paw Age: 28 Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The Z32 and JZ make such a great pair. Looking forward to the rest of this build. __________________ Whalen's Speed R&D - IG - @MachinegunSquad - www.whalentuned.com

06-24-2015, 07:36 AM	#3
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	This is going to be awesome. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

06-27-2015, 01:41 PM	#7
MrFairlady Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fascination Street,N.C Age: 42 Posts: 1,701 Trader Rating: (31) Rides Gallery: MrFairlady Feedback Score: 31 reviews	Im down like 4flats! Z32. Can't wait to see whats done. __________________ z-tERty-2

07-03-2015, 05:38 PM	#9
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Expect some updates over the weekend, I have decided to make a custom tubular cross member to be able to sit the engine as low as possible to avoid any hood notching and retaining maximum oil capacity. don't know how far I'll get since we have a holiday weekend and my access to materials will be limited, BUT i do have this teaser from last night (got bigger turbo) __________________ Review Thread Last edited by bardabe; 11-21-2018 at 11:53 PM..

06-24-2015, 11:58 AM	#5
AzS13hatch Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: AZ/ South Korea Age: 33 Posts: 121 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I haven't done much in depth research on Z32's, what is the reason for going to an NA subframe? Also for what its worth, I have the Maverick kit on my S13 behind a 1JZ and I love it. The quality is top notch and had to make no adjustments or fabrication of my own (besides shaving the bell housing to compensate). IMO it looks much cleaner than the Collins kit, although you won't ever see it once in the car.

06-24-2015, 12:39 PM	#6
Hatemy7 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago Il Age: 36 Posts: 1,367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is nice. ive never seen this swap into this bad boy

06-27-2015, 04:21 PM	#8
chank Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: arizona Age: 38 Posts: 68 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Sure are a lot of z32/ 2jz swaps going on. Good luck to you and i'll be looking forward to your progress. heres an old pic of my swap, also vvti, she's a little bit further along now but still lots to do (mock up motor in pic).

09-21-2015, 10:40 AM	#10
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	So I kinda sold the 2JZ... __________________ Review Thread

09-21-2015, 11:07 AM	#11
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,142 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Anthony has a smoked vq37hr that may be salvageable. Just throwin some ideas out there lol

09-21-2015, 01:22 PM	#12
Jissan Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 155 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	LOL WTH What's the plan now? I can't say I don't love the VQs, but the vq37hr have massive VVEL solenoids on the back of the heads that push the motor far forward and jack with proper subframe placement on S chassis. Not sure about the Z32 subframe & firewall layout though. __________________ VQ Build Insta

10-31-2015, 04:28 PM	#15
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	So I kinda bought an SR. __________________ Review Thread Last edited by bardabe; 11-21-2018 at 11:55 PM..

11-01-2015, 08:03 PM	#16
collegekid Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In my house Age: 29 Posts: 755 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	What did that cost you if you don't mind? I got my Kouki Sr motorset for 2600 shipped, kinda wondering what front clips cost today

11-01-2015, 08:22 PM	#17
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I've never really understood the draw of the notchtops unless you're going to keep them very stockish. Any particular reason you got one? __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

11-01-2015, 08:37 PM	#18
Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 37 Posts: 8,027 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Utter disappointment

11-02-2015, 01:13 PM	#23
collegekid Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In my house Age: 29 Posts: 755 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	If you want to get rid of that side mount setup I am in need of one. I just want to start out stock and slowly add modifications to see how it changes. Plus I would rather buy an inexpensive Smic setup vs the $600 greddy and blitz kits that are out there right now (which are really tempting me )

12-07-2015, 03:29 PM	#25
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Progress & Twin Disks. So I have progress, I got to pull the engine out of the clip and sold the transmission. I still need to get rid of the five lug, the RHD stuff, Speed sensor & basically everything else from the clip that i do not need for the swap. while that happens I put the SR on the stand and took it apart. I stripped it of all components this past weekend and took the head off. from initial looks i was a bit skeptic since the engine oil looked dirty. I have never had a bad engine from my supplier so I took the head off and just as expected the cylinder-walls pretty much look perfect. I was able to clean the top of the pistons with a simple spray of parts wash and a rag, only one wipe and the pistons were pretty spotless. since I'm re-sealing the engine and changing out all the gaskets I replaced the factory composite gasket with a 1.5MM Tomei head gasket & brand new Nissan head bolts. I also re-sealed the front timing cover / oil pump, I still need to re-paint the valve cover so i can finish sealing the engine so I can clean the outside of all the old leaks & that weird white calcium build up. I've been stashing parts for quite sometime now, I should have my bell-housing back from machine shop sometime this week. (Z33 gear box) so I can mate my transmission to the block and begin fabricating motor mounts. just today my ATS Clutch arrived from Japan. (thank you Yasu!) so I'm super stoked for that, i don't think I'll ever have to worry for a slipping clutch. thanks to George over at Maverick Motorsports I won't ever have to worry about breaking a transmission thanks to his SR20 to Z33 adapter as well. I hope to this week finish bleeding the lifters & get the valve train all back together. I still need to make up my mind on what I want to do with the valve cover, ultimately I'd like to send my Valve cover to MCR Factory when i forge the engine & do the top mount turbo but i need to figure out something for now. __________________ Review Thread Last edited by bardabe; 11-22-2018 at 12:00 AM..

12-07-2015, 07:03 PM	#26
Hoffman5982 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Definitely NOT FL.... Age: 29 Posts: 2,491 Trader Rating: (25) Feedback Score: 25 reviews	Do you have a hookup for MCR valve covers? I looked into it in the past and was told it would cost about $4-500, and they only like dealing with new valve covers __________________

12-07-2015, 07:27 PM	#27
Lees_Garage Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southern CA Posts: 1,190 Trader Rating: (66) Feedback Score: 66 reviews	Glad to see the progress Juan! DM'ing you now about the 5-lug. __________________ Build Thread @lees_garage

01-04-2016, 01:39 PM	#28
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Unfortunately I haven't received my bellhousing back from machining so I can make motor mounts and other fab work so I've had to compromise. This weekend I was able to make the hangers for my exhaust, I also took the apexi gauges and installed them. I re-loomed the apexi harness with milspec loom for a cleaner look through the windshield and ran all the wiring. I also had a chance to mock up the Intercooler mounting and I'm really thinking of making an aluminum bumper beam with tabs for the IC. Not sure how traditional I want to do the mounting on that. -Juan __________________ Review Thread Last edited by bardabe; 11-22-2018 at 12:10 AM..

01-04-2016, 01:54 PM	#29
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,753 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Timeless look of the Z! Freeing up weight and complexity on the front is the way ahead me thinks!

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