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***S14DB*** · 03-08-2008, 07:10 PM

Please take it to someone that knows what they are doing to check it out.

alkemyst · 03-08-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by landins13

sounds like the guy is feeding you a load of crap, i dont know if it would physically bolt on but it seems as though the sr head would be a down grade for that engine considering that the sr20 head would be ported for a 2 liter engine while the ka head would be designed and ported for a 2.4 liter engine.

the guy doesnt know what hes talking about, and id be extremely skeptical about it having forged pistons and aftermarket cams

yeah switch to 4 lug hubs too because some guy told me that the 4 lug hubs were only available special order from Nissan for SE's...the lower unsprung weight made for 'roughly' he said a full second 0-60 and turning a sub 14 sec. 1/4 mile stock.

Maybe he is the same guy you are talking to...he was in miami.

nissanracer29 · 03-09-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nissanracer29

I attempted to start the car up just to see if it would crank and sure enough it did start up on the second attempt. I have an Apexi SAFC and Apexi timer that are waiting to be installed. Would I be able to drive the car if I had those things hooked up? Do I need to get a boost controler or will the SAFC take care of that?

Can someone help me answer this question. Also If I put a stock intake back on cant I just take the turbo off and run car with the turbo manifold on? Or will that hurt the engine? Thanks

racerjake · 03-09-2008, 08:13 PM

Don't give up on this motor! This is a typical type of thing. The guy probably knew how to build a motor but didn't figure out how to do the fuel and timing. You can idle the car and drive it around before boost builds on stock fuel and timing as long as you keep it off boost. (read, go very slow and rev LOW!) But who they hell knows what you got. The intake or the turbo isn't a problem. What is, is not knowing the flow rate of your injectors or the MAF. Depending on those, you can be running too rich (bye bye cat) or too lean (bye bye motor). DON'T run that thing before you figure out what you got. A SAFC gives you tuning ability - but you need a wideband and some knowledge (preferably a dyno) to make it right.

Here's what I would do. Go back to this guy and get a LIST of what he put on it. What MAF, how many cc injectors, what fuel pump, what Compression Ratio. With that, the right people can figure out how to make this thing get the fuel it needs.

As for your last question - the answer is NO. Stock intake, no turbo, stock manifold - but the wrong MAF and or injectors and or Compression Ratio will be NO GOOD. You need to figure out what you got.

racerjake · 03-10-2008, 07:28 AM

BTW - chances are you have SR20DET Injectors and turbo - not the head. And you probably have a 300ZX MAF, not injectors. This is a typical KA-T build.

nissanracer29 · 03-10-2008, 08:33 AM

im not sure how to post pictures on here. So if anyone would like to see what I have just let me know and I can email them to you. Im going to call the guy this afternoon and ask him those questions.

bizzyj83 · 03-10-2008, 09:04 AM

lol
shafted.

SR head on KA block?
LOLOLOLOLOL.

Does that even make sense?

Jung918 · 03-10-2008, 10:33 AM

the guy is a liar so even if you ask him what parts are on the car, would you really trust him? next time you make a purchase do some homework so you are not in this situation.

you can email me the photos and I will host them.

do not run the car without a proper tune.

nissanracer29 · 03-10-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jung918

the guy is a liar so even if you ask him what parts are on the car, would you really trust him? next time you make a purchase do some homework so you are not in this situation.

you can email me the photos and I will host them. foemac @ gmail.com

do not run the car without a proper tune.

Ok I emailed the pictures to you.

Jung918 · 03-10-2008, 02:21 PM

racerjake · 03-10-2008, 03:43 PM

OMFG!

You need to find someone who knows what they are doing. Do NOT run the car like that. The IC pipes are comical. I doubt a blow thru on the hot side will ever work right, and don't get me started on the cold side that runs outside the bodywork. If you don't know what that means - it means you need to find someone who knows what they are doing.

Good luck man. On the bright side, you have way more than a grand worth of parts there.

nissanracer29 · 03-10-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerjake

OMFG!

You need to find someone who knows what they are doing. Do NOT run the car like that. The IC pipes are comical. I doubt a blow thru on the hot side will ever work right, and don't get me started on the cold side that runs outside the bodywork. If you don't know what that means - it means you need to find someone who knows what they are doing.

Good luck man. On the bright side, you have way more than a grand worth of parts there.

Plus he had an Apexi SAFC and Apexi Timer sitting in the passenger seat that havent been installed. Yea the IC pipes are horribly routed. I am going to try and route them differently. What do you think about how the turbo is mounted? Can I rotate it downwards by unbolting it or do I need to get a different manifold? Thanks everyone for all the responses.

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03-09-2008, 08:13 PM	#34
racerjake Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Connecticut Age: 47 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't give up on this motor! This is a typical type of thing. The guy probably knew how to build a motor but didn't figure out how to do the fuel and timing. You can idle the car and drive it around before boost builds on stock fuel and timing as long as you keep it off boost. (read, go very slow and rev LOW!) But who they hell knows what you got. The intake or the turbo isn't a problem. What is, is not knowing the flow rate of your injectors or the MAF. Depending on those, you can be running too rich (bye bye cat) or too lean (bye bye motor). DON'T run that thing before you figure out what you got. A SAFC gives you tuning ability - but you need a wideband and some knowledge (preferably a dyno) to make it right. Here's what I would do. Go back to this guy and get a LIST of what he put on it. What MAF, how many cc injectors, what fuel pump, what Compression Ratio. With that, the right people can figure out how to make this thing get the fuel it needs. As for your last question - the answer is NO. Stock intake, no turbo, stock manifold - but the wrong MAF and or injectors and or Compression Ratio will be NO GOOD. You need to figure out what you got.

03-10-2008, 07:28 AM	#35
racerjake Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Connecticut Age: 47 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	BTW - chances are you have SR20DET Injectors and turbo - not the head. And you probably have a 300ZX MAF, not injectors. This is a typical KA-T build.

03-10-2008, 08:33 AM	#36
nissanracer29 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Parrottsville, TN. Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	im not sure how to post pictures on here. So if anyone would like to see what I have just let me know and I can email them to you. Im going to call the guy this afternoon and ask him those questions.

03-10-2008, 09:04 AM	#37
bizzyj83 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: dekalb Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol shafted. SR head on KA block? LOLOLOLOLOL. Does that even make sense?

03-10-2008, 03:43 PM	#41
racerjake Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Connecticut Age: 47 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OMFG! You need to find someone who knows what they are doing. Do NOT run the car like that. The IC pipes are comical. I doubt a blow thru on the hot side will ever work right, and don't get me started on the cold side that runs outside the bodywork. If you don't know what that means - it means you need to find someone who knows what they are doing. Good luck man. On the bright side, you have way more than a grand worth of parts there.