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Gordo714 · 02-16-2009, 07:58 PM

okay here is my problem and hopefully it helps others out as much at it will help me.....

there is a L shaped piece of metal that bolts on to cover the chains in between the 2 cam shafts. (to prevents them from i dont know what )thats what im trying to figure out well the thing is that it was just bouncing around making a real loud clicking noise. okay so i removed my engine cover and removed that piece walla... i thought i had solved the problem turns out that when i bolted it back up now the chains where hitting the top of the engine cover.....

so what i want to figure out is what is that L shaped piece of metal for and why are my chains hitting and causing it to snap and now they are hitting the top of my engine cover....

please help me

this is what it should look like

here is where the L shaped plate should be bolted but the 2 bolts are still there and the plate cracked

here is where the chain is hitting the top of my head cover

this is the L shaped metal and where it cracked

this is a side shot of the L shaped metal and where they cracked

please help me and bump my thread

-Art

drftmark · 02-16-2009, 09:59 PM

Nissan recommended taking that out, so go ahead and just remove it. There is also another one to take out but it is more of a pain to get to.

redsx13 · 02-16-2009, 10:12 PM

yep, throw it in the trash

Gordo714 · 02-16-2009, 11:31 PM

Alright coo so the chain won't come off or anything

steve shadows · 02-17-2009, 12:01 AM

are you saying it's still hitting the inside of the valve cover tho?

in this case you will need to add tension to the chain or replace the chain if it has too much slack

Gordo714 · 02-17-2009, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve shadows

are you saying it's still hitting the inside of the valve cover tho?

in this case you will need to add tension to the chain or replace the chain if it has too much slack

Yeah it hits so I guess I need to tighten it up any idea how

Ali 556 · 02-17-2009, 03:05 AM

FSM !!!!

redsx13 · 02-17-2009, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordo714

Yeah it hits so I guess I need to tighten it up any idea how

buy a new tensioner, if the doesn't work you have to buy a new chain

The Chad · 02-17-2009, 03:56 AM

Yeah man it's just a chain guide. Both my 240's broke off. According to Nissan it is a non replaceable part, (throw away). If the chain has too much slack in it, it might be time for a new timing chain tensioner and chain too.

toointoxicated62 · 02-17-2009, 08:36 AM

toss it, its worthless :] i dont have the guilds on my motor

Gordo714 · 02-17-2009, 10:10 AM

alright thanks guys im going to toss the part and eventually recalibrate the timing chain.

The Chad · 02-17-2009, 04:29 PM

DO not "recalibrate" anything, do it right and get a new tensioner and fresh chain. they tend to expand over time.

Gordo714 · 02-17-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chad

DO not "recalibrate" anything, do it right and get a new tensioner and fresh chain. they tend to expand over time.

i ment tighten it, alright then i look for a new tensioner and chain
does anybody recomend not driving it for now or what

Gordo714 · 02-17-2009, 07:04 PM

i found out that my chain is a little loose and i do not have a timing gun to do this my self
so her is my question can i still drive my car around or will this lead to a bigger problem

ro240sx · 02-18-2009, 12:05 AM

take it to spencers.

Gordo714 · 02-18-2009, 12:36 AM

Yeah I know this weekend

crameur · 02-18-2009, 05:44 AM

or you can eat some pancakes and put some butter cream on it , you know what i mean ?

Gordo714 · 02-18-2009, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crameur

or you can eat some pancakes and put some butter cream on it , you know what i mean ?

na homie i dont know what you mean

kalypso123 · 02-18-2009, 01:24 PM

thats sounds good... with the whip cream and strawberries

Gordo714 · 02-18-2009, 04:25 PM

i got a quote 500 bucks to change my timing belt fuuuuuuuuck
i am tripping out though because my engine still pulls and has power lose
i am just gonna drive it till it gives out SR coming soon!!!!!!!!

ro240sx · 02-18-2009, 09:26 PM

Is that right. So your gonna get an SR.

Gordo714 · 02-19-2009, 12:00 AM

Yeah fool that's right!!!!!!!!!!

The Chad · 02-19-2009, 03:52 AM

If you can get a FSM the chain isnt that bad. Took me a weekend of dabbing at it for a few hours here and there. But try re-setting your timing if the chain isnt hitting/rubbing 1st. better than ruining your poor KA. $500 is very high since any low milage KA i've seen for sale is no more than $500, I paid $600 for a DOHC KA and Tranny from a 97' with 70k miles.

Gordo714 · 02-20-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chad

If you can get a FSM the chain isnt that bad. Took me a weekend of dabbing at it for a few hours here and there. But try re-setting your timing if the chain isnt hitting/rubbing 1st. better than ruining your poor KA. $500 is very high since any low milage KA i've seen for sale is no more than $500, I paid $600 for a DOHC KA and Tranny from a 97' with 70k miles.

whats the FSM chain

Jus Skott · 02-19-2009, 04:49 AM

lol the third thing i did when i first bought my car was remove that. then proceeded to throw it at my roommates younger brother. "put that shit on your slow ass honda"

Gordo714 · 02-20-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jus Skott

lol the third thing i did when i first bought my car was remove that. then proceeded to throw it at my roommates younger brother. "put that shit on your slow ass honda"

i threw mine at my cheap ass dog ahhaha

Jus Skott · 02-20-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordo714

i threw mine at my cheap ass dog ahhaha

how'd he feel about that?

JRas · 02-21-2009, 12:49 AM

.. it's a chain guide and it's not needed

The Chad · 02-21-2009, 08:24 AM

FSM = Factory Service Manual. They make a Chilton's/Haynes Manual look like a retarded child cast away when born at the factory. Helps you know what you are doing when repairing just about anything on your car. They are vehicle specific.

khilgers · 02-21-2009, 08:29 AM

I've been running without a chain guide for almost 2 years now. No problems what so ever.

02-16-2009, 07:58 PM	#1
Gordo714 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 714 Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	plate on top of camshafts cracked!!!!!!! okay here is my problem and hopefully it helps others out as much at it will help me..... there is a L shaped piece of metal that bolts on to cover the chains in between the 2 cam shafts. (to prevents them from i dont know what )thats what im trying to figure out well the thing is that it was just bouncing around making a real loud clicking noise. okay so i removed my engine cover and removed that piece walla... i thought i had solved the problem turns out that when i bolted it back up now the chains where hitting the top of the engine cover..... so what i want to figure out is what is that L shaped piece of metal for and why are my chains hitting and causing it to snap and now they are hitting the top of my engine cover.... please help me this is what it should look like here is where the L shaped plate should be bolted but the 2 bolts are still there and the plate cracked here is where the chain is hitting the top of my head cover this is the L shaped metal and where it cracked this is a side shot of the L shaped metal and where they cracked please help me and bump my thread -Art

02-17-2009, 12:01 AM	#5
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	are you saying it's still hitting the inside of the valve cover tho? in this case you will need to add tension to the chain or replace the chain if it has too much slack __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

02-17-2009, 03:05 AM	#7
Ali 556 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Far Far Away...... Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	FSM !!!! __________________ '95 S14 Se With HKS's - BREMBO's - ES/SPL.

02-21-2009, 12:49 AM	#28
JRas Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 32 Posts: 1,503 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	.. it's a chain guide and it's not needed __________________

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02-16-2009, 09:59 PM	#2
drftmark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: tx Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Nissan recommended taking that out, so go ahead and just remove it. There is also another one to take out but it is more of a pain to get to.

02-16-2009, 10:12 PM	#3
redsx13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Agoura Hills, Ca Age: 31 Posts: 572 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	yep, throw it in the trash

02-16-2009, 11:31 PM	#4
Gordo714 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 714 Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Alright coo so the chain won't come off or anything

02-17-2009, 03:56 AM	#9
The Chad Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 40 Posts: 943 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah man it's just a chain guide. Both my 240's broke off. According to Nissan it is a non replaceable part, (throw away). If the chain has too much slack in it, it might be time for a new timing chain tensioner and chain too.

02-17-2009, 08:36 AM	#10
toointoxicated62 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NY Age: 31 Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	toss it, its worthless :] i dont have the guilds on my motor

02-17-2009, 10:10 AM	#11
Gordo714 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 714 Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	alright thanks guys im going to toss the part and eventually recalibrate the timing chain.

02-17-2009, 04:29 PM	#12
The Chad Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 40 Posts: 943 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	DO not "recalibrate" anything, do it right and get a new tensioner and fresh chain. they tend to expand over time.

02-17-2009, 07:04 PM	#14
Gordo714 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 714 Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	i found out that my chain is a little loose and i do not have a timing gun to do this my self so her is my question can i still drive my car around or will this lead to a bigger problem

02-18-2009, 12:05 AM	#15
ro240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OC, CA Posts: 283 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	take it to spencers.

02-18-2009, 12:36 AM	#16
Gordo714 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 714 Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Yeah I know this weekend

02-18-2009, 05:44 AM	#17
crameur Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Age: 35 Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	or you can eat some pancakes and put some butter cream on it , you know what i mean ?

02-18-2009, 01:24 PM	#19
kalypso123 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,853 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	thats sounds good... with the whip cream and strawberries

02-18-2009, 04:25 PM	#20
Gordo714 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 714 Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	i got a quote 500 bucks to change my timing belt fuuuuuuuuck i am tripping out though because my engine still pulls and has power lose i am just gonna drive it till it gives out SR coming soon!!!!!!!!

02-18-2009, 09:26 PM	#21
ro240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OC, CA Posts: 283 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Is that right. So your gonna get an SR.

02-19-2009, 12:00 AM	#22
Gordo714 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 714 Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Yeah fool that's right!!!!!!!!!!

02-19-2009, 03:52 AM	#23
The Chad Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 40 Posts: 943 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you can get a FSM the chain isnt that bad. Took me a weekend of dabbing at it for a few hours here and there. But try re-setting your timing if the chain isnt hitting/rubbing 1st. better than ruining your poor KA. $500 is very high since any low milage KA i've seen for sale is no more than $500, I paid $600 for a DOHC KA and Tranny from a 97' with 70k miles.

02-19-2009, 04:49 AM	#25
Jus Skott Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Morrisville Pa. Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	lol the third thing i did when i first bought my car was remove that. then proceeded to throw it at my roommates younger brother. "put that shit on your slow ass honda"

02-21-2009, 08:24 AM	#29
The Chad Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 40 Posts: 943 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	FSM = Factory Service Manual. They make a Chilton's/Haynes Manual look like a retarded child cast away when born at the factory. Helps you know what you are doing when repairing just about anything on your car. They are vehicle specific.

02-21-2009, 08:29 AM	#30
khilgers Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Twin Cities Age: 41 Posts: 893 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: khilgers Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've been running without a chain guide for almost 2 years now. No problems what so ever.