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PoorMans180SX · 10-26-2020, 05:40 AM

Checking out the main bearing clearance, it's pretty much perfect at .0015-.0018", and the rods are at .0024" which is mint as well. Measured with a proper bore gauge.

Oil squirter "delete" will be replaced with some proper Mazworx ones.

Super Beefy crank doesn't allow squirters it seems.

Timing chain squirter will be replaced with a Taarks screw in.

PoorMans180SX · 10-26-2020, 05:45 AM

Here's some of the detail work that I do to my bottom ends. Basically smoothing out casting flash, breaking sharp edges, Smoothing out oil drains and feeds, etc.

Why does no one ever address the terrible water inlet on SR20 blocks? It's a ninety degree cross drilled passage that has to see a bunch of turbulence.

Just cleaned up some more flash in the water pump area.

PoorMans180SX · 10-26-2020, 05:54 AM

Also, SR20 blocks have these weird plugged, unused passages that run to the sump. I may try and simplify my catch can setup by using the top fitting as a drain. I gotta knock that aluminum plug out so I can use the factory crankcase vent, but I think I can re-route the PCV system so in vacuum/cruise it takes the proper path of through the air intake, down into the sump, up through the timing cover and out the valve cover. Kinda nice for detail people like me hah.

Off to the machine shop today!

PoorMans180SX · 10-26-2020, 08:24 AM

Just learned from a very reputable SR20 builder that my main clearances are much too tight. Guess I'll order up those .001" extra clearance bearings hah.

RalliartRsX · 10-26-2020, 08:31 AM

Its funny. When you posted the mains and rods, I had to go look them as they did seem too tight. Especially if you want to put some big turbo heat into them.

Good catch!

S14rebuild · 10-26-2020, 09:08 AM

Kinda weird on the crank to big for squirters

PoorMans180SX · 10-26-2020, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Its funny. When you posted the mains and rods, I had to go look them as they did seem too tight. Especially if you want to put some big turbo heat into them.

Good catch!

Thanks, I guess I'm used to iron block 4G63's that must move around less? The rods should be fine as far as I'm aware, but I guess #3 main should never be less than .0030"! Which is much larger than I'm used to seeing. Mine is at .0012" so I'm going to have to do some finessing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Kinda weird on the crank to big for squirters

I'll be test fitting everything to see if I can run them or not.

PoorMans180SX · 10-26-2020, 10:40 AM

A friend of mine let me thrash his NA KA car a few weekends ago. It was fun sending this thing in third.

PoorMans180SX · 10-29-2020, 05:29 AM

Got the THL crossmember in.

Got the GKtech one-piece arms in, the car back on the ground, and got it to a more proper ride height.

Still need to install these and a hundred other things.

jr_ss · 11-01-2020, 11:28 AM

Everything looks good. I wouldn’t omit the piston squirters if I were you. On the oil drain holes, did you just chamfer the hole instead of having a 90* edge? I’ve contemplated doing some of these things on my “big power” build.

PoorMans180SX · 11-04-2020, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_ss

Everything looks good. I wouldn?t omit the piston squirters if I were you. On the oil drain holes, did you just chamfer the hole instead of having a 90* edge? I?ve contemplated doing some of these things on my ?big power? build.

Yeah I'm going to try and fit the squirters back in. Yes, I chamfered or radiused every oil drain and feed area it made sense to.

A bigger update later this week.

PoorMans180SX · 12-29-2020, 07:15 AM

I've been taking a little break from this for the Holidays, but here's an update:

PoorMans180SX · 01-08-2021, 05:34 AM

Well, one more piece of the puzzle.

PoorMans180SX · 01-21-2021, 10:22 AM

Anyone interested in an old-school style writeup on the SR20 wiring harness build? Obviously I'm doing a video about the whole thing, but I can take pictures and do a writeup if people think that would be beneficial for the forum. I'm going to be building the harness to be future proof so it would include some extra sensor provisions and all the things to run the VVL system for a VE head conversion.

Updates on the car coming soon.

e30gangsta · 01-21-2021, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Anyone interested in an old-school style writeup on the SR20 wiring harness build? Obviously I'm doing a video about the whole thing, but I can take pictures and do a writeup if people think that would be beneficial for the forum. I'm going to be building the harness to be future proof so it would include some extra sensor provisions and all the things to run the VVL system for a VE head conversion.

Updates on the car coming soon.

That would be super awesome/beneficial even if its a youtube video.

IIIXziuR · 01-21-2021, 12:39 PM

Is that you with the very manly beard and high quality branded flannel shirt? Very nice!

I would be interested in seeing your process on the wiring harness build!

I may have missed it but you aren't doing anything with those VG33's anymore, huh?

PoorMans180SX · 01-21-2021, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e30gangsta

That would be super awesome/beneficial even if its a youtube video.

Thank you for the feedback!

Quote:

Originally Posted by IIIXziuR

Is that you with the very manly beard and high quality branded flannel shirt? Very nice!

I would be interested in seeing your process on the wiring harness build!

I may have missed it but you aren't doing anything with those VG33's anymore, huh?

Haha, indeed that is me. Nah, the VG33 was supposed to be a budget build for me and it got out of control much too quickly. As you can tell, I tend to "spaceship" things, or make them way more complicated than they have to be. Not to mention when I stopped working at the shop I lost the ability to weld things, which was pretty key for that whole setup. I sold them all to my local Z31 friend.
I'm still kind of undecided on what engine is going in the orange car (That I really, really don't want to be orange anymore).

supersayianjim · 01-30-2021, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Well, one more piece of the puzzle.

why no ecu master?

PoorMans180SX · 02-08-2021, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersayianjim

why no ecu master?

Because I dislike ECU master connectors, this will allow me transition to a different ECU if I want, and I got a sweet deal on this. Might run an ADU5 though!

Finishing up the nitty gritty of planning out this harness. A few more big decisions to make and then it's mockup time for the ECU to firewall.

RalliartRsX · 02-08-2021, 11:17 PM

As an ecumaster user, I share that sentiment.....

PoorMans180SX · 02-15-2021, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

As an ecumaster user, I share that sentiment.....

Yeah right?

I've made a few mistakes on this car in the rush to get it ready for last season. I'll show ya'll some of them this week, including what not to do on a rear subframe and why you don't want to try running one-peice S14 FLCA on an S13...

PoorMans180SX · 02-15-2021, 08:34 PM

This is the kinda shit I?m talking about.

PoorMans180SX · 02-16-2021, 03:02 PM

Time for subframe redo, round 2.

RedSled · 02-16-2021, 05:31 PM

what caused the subframe to split like that ,that's very disturbing

RalliartRsX · 02-16-2021, 05:47 PM

Looks like some jackass shoved the aluminum bushings into the housing misaligned, fucked it, and carried on

PoorMans180SX · 02-16-2021, 06:35 PM

It's my fault guys, although it wasn't your typical install. Video will be up in a couple hours with all the mistakes I made on this thing haha. Luckily it is salvageable, but I'm going to be refreshing my spare subframe with a few new twists to replace this thing for now.

PoorMans180SX · 02-16-2021, 07:35 PM

It's here:

RalliartRsX · 02-16-2021, 08:11 PM

Now I feel bad for calling you a jackass as I actually respect your builds lol

P.S the surface rust on the rear rotor matches your beard color hahahaha!

PoorMans180SX · 02-16-2021, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Now I feel bad for calling you a jackass as I actually respect your builds lol

P.S the surface rust on the rear rotor matches your beard color hahahaha!

Hhahahaahahah, it's all good man, it was a bad idea, just something I rushed to get done and I've paid the price for it! Trashing these bushings and going a totally new approach on this next subframe, so hopefully I can redeem myself.

Hahaha indeed it does, especially under that 6k LED!

PoorMans180SX · 02-21-2021, 01:00 PM

It?s okay guys, I never want to watch other people?s vlogs either 🤣.

10-26-2020, 05:40 AM	#601
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Checking out the main bearing clearance, it's pretty much perfect at .0015-.0018", and the rods are at .0024" which is mint as well. Measured with a proper bore gauge. Oil squirter "delete" will be replaced with some proper Mazworx ones. Super Beefy crank doesn't allow squirters it seems. Timing chain squirter will be replaced with a Taarks screw in. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

10-26-2020, 05:45 AM	#602
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Here's some of the detail work that I do to my bottom ends. Basically smoothing out casting flash, breaking sharp edges, Smoothing out oil drains and feeds, etc. Why does no one ever address the terrible water inlet on SR20 blocks? It's a ninety degree cross drilled passage that has to see a bunch of turbulence. Just cleaned up some more flash in the water pump area. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

10-26-2020, 05:54 AM	#603
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Also, SR20 blocks have these weird plugged, unused passages that run to the sump. I may try and simplify my catch can setup by using the top fitting as a drain. I gotta knock that aluminum plug out so I can use the factory crankcase vent, but I think I can re-route the PCV system so in vacuum/cruise it takes the proper path of through the air intake, down into the sump, up through the timing cover and out the valve cover. Kinda nice for detail people like me hah. Off to the machine shop today! __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

10-26-2020, 08:24 AM	#604
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Just learned from a very reputable SR20 builder that my main clearances are much too tight. Guess I'll order up those .001" extra clearance bearings hah. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

10-26-2020, 10:40 AM	#608
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	A friend of mine let me thrash his NA KA car a few weekends ago. It was fun sending this thing in third. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs. Last edited by PoorMans180SX; 10-29-2020 at 05:27 AM..

10-26-2020, 08:31 AM	#605
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,753 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Its funny. When you posted the mains and rods, I had to go look them as they did seem too tight. Especially if you want to put some big turbo heat into them. Good catch!

10-26-2020, 09:08 AM	#606
S14rebuild BANNED Join Date: May 2019 Location: Florida-FAIL Posts: 2,497 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Kinda weird on the crank to big for squirters

10-29-2020, 05:29 AM	#609
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Got the THL crossmember in. Got the GKtech one-piece arms in, the car back on the ground, and got it to a more proper ride height. Still need to install these and a hundred other things. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

11-01-2020, 11:28 AM	#610
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,054 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Everything looks good. I wouldn’t omit the piston squirters if I were you. On the oil drain holes, did you just chamfer the hole instead of having a 90* edge? I’ve contemplated doing some of these things on my “big power” build. __________________ My SR20VET

12-29-2020, 07:15 AM	#612
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I've been taking a little break from this for the Holidays, but here's an update: __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

01-08-2021, 05:34 AM	#613
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Well, one more piece of the puzzle. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

01-21-2021, 10:22 AM	#614
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Anyone interested in an old-school style writeup on the SR20 wiring harness build? Obviously I'm doing a video about the whole thing, but I can take pictures and do a writeup if people think that would be beneficial for the forum. I'm going to be building the harness to be future proof so it would include some extra sensor provisions and all the things to run the VVL system for a VE head conversion. Updates on the car coming soon. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

01-21-2021, 12:39 PM	#616
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,652 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Is that you with the very manly beard and high quality branded flannel shirt? Very nice! I would be interested in seeing your process on the wiring harness build! I may have missed it but you aren't doing anything with those VG33's anymore, huh? __________________ ... ... ... ... .

02-08-2021, 11:17 PM	#620
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,753 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	As an ecumaster user, I share that sentiment.....

02-15-2021, 08:34 PM	#622
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	This is the kinda shit I?m talking about. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs. Last edited by PoorMans180SX; 02-16-2021 at 02:59 PM..

02-16-2021, 03:02 PM	#623
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Time for subframe redo, round 2. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

02-16-2021, 05:31 PM	#624
RedSled Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chilling Posts: 106 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	what caused the subframe to split like that ,that's very disturbing

02-16-2021, 05:47 PM	#625
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,753 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Looks like some jackass shoved the aluminum bushings into the housing misaligned, fucked it, and carried on

02-16-2021, 06:35 PM	#626
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	It's my fault guys, although it wasn't your typical install. Video will be up in a couple hours with all the mistakes I made on this thing haha. Luckily it is salvageable, but I'm going to be refreshing my spare subframe with a few new twists to replace this thing for now. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

02-16-2021, 07:35 PM	#627
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	It's here: __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

02-16-2021, 08:11 PM	#628
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,753 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Now I feel bad for calling you a jackass as I actually respect your builds lol P.S the surface rust on the rear rotor matches your beard color hahahaha!

02-21-2021, 01:00 PM	#630
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	It?s okay guys, I never want to watch other people?s vlogs either 🤣. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

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