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Old 02-21-2010, 11:24 PM   #31
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Garrett turbos are junk...Ill buy them from you guys for a nominal fee so they can be properly recycled.
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Never Had any problem with any of my Garret turbo's. I'm not saying that just because I haven't, that this is BS, but just my take on it.

I just don't believe this one bit. Matter of fact I'm ordering an S15 turbo this week.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:26 PM   #34
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and thats why I am swaping a VH45 in my baby :]
wont have to deal with boost
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:58 PM   #36
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Never Had any problem with any of my Garret turbo's. I'm not saying that just because I haven't, that this is BS, but just my take on it.

I just don't believe this one bit. Matter of fact I'm ordering an S15 turbo this week.
I don't believe it either
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:23 PM   #37
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I just shelled out for a GT2871R at the beginning of Feb. I hope this is complete bs....
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:31 PM   #38
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my next turbo is going to be precision anyway, they are way ahead of the game
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Old 02-22-2010, 05:18 PM   #39
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turbonetics is ahead of the game....
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I doubt this is true I know at Raceway park thats what most of us run and mine which was bought a month ago is perfect.
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noooooooooo!!!! outsourcing is bullshit, quality is everything
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glad i sold my caterpillar...

I will say this. My 28rs has been through hell and hasn't failed me yet. I'm pretty sure that most ppl would agree that what Garrett has been putting out works fine, regardless of where it came from. I will research this matter further and if its has any truth to it, I will most likely not purchase from Garrett again..
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Glad i like HKS turbos better
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Old 02-23-2010, 11:20 AM   #45
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this won't change my opinion of them.

i've never ran into a bad garrett gt series turbo that wasn't the installer's fault, and the few that i have seen go bad because of that still are 90% less than properly installed wannabe garretts.

so i'm gonna trump heresay with experience and keep on giving garrett and precision my business.

i personally have NEVER had a problem with em and they've always performed better than any other comparable companies turbos.

even better than turbonetics. now what i love about turbonetics is, they make a good product and if you have a problem with theirs they don't give you any crap, they send you a replacement. their customer service is awesome.

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umm they umm are umm garrett um turbos ummmmmmmm
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"Well Cliff Garrett dies. At that time ALL production of Garrett Turbos was at Lomita Torrance ca. Also all engineering and research was there as well. After we were bought and production was sent to Mexico to save costs. Our production numbers doubled. And cost was cut in half our failure rate tripled. Well who cares Honeywell is making money and lots of it."

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wiki says Cliff Garrett died in 1963. So brown bagging it and etc, don't mean shit. The man died 47years ago.
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its not their first merger. Merger means new. NEW, things change. Names may stay the same, but things will change.

The last merger was in 1999, 10-11 frigging years ago. How many turbos that we(zilvian's) typically run that are that old? maybe stock turbos, but not much else.

If it was not for china turbos... where would cx racing/etc be without them? and our 600dollar gt35's?

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In 1964, after a merger with Signal Oil, Garrett became part of Signal Companies.[2] In the mid-1980s, Signal merged with Allied Chemical & Dye, and became AlliedSignal, an automotive, aerospace and engineering company. AlliedSignal merged with Honeywell in 1999, where the turbocharger business was known as Garrett Engine Boosting Systems. Renamed Honeywell Turbo Technologies in 2004, the Garrett name has been retained as a product brand name for aftermarket.[3]

To prove performance and durability, the Garrett brand competes in numerous motorsport series. The company also supports auto racing around the world including sports car racing, drag racing, rally racing, and open-wheel racing.
The plant on 190th will remain and the Lomita Blvd. plant is being moved to the 190th location.

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Look at the posters Grammar and Sentence/paragraph structure(or lack there of...)
Sounds like some bullshit rumor to me...
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Look at the posters Grammar and Sentence/paragraph structure(or lack there of...)
Sounds like some bullshit rumor to me...
I was just in an argument on here with some moron about this like 2 weeks ago. I try to explain to these people that if you type in long, runon setences with incorrect spelling and grammar, no one will take you seriously.

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Is this the same Honeywell that sells electrical components? Relays, limit switches, etc?
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I think someone got mad because his benefits got taken away(not too uncommon in this economy) and tried to get back at the company by writing this letter/post
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Worst purchase I ever made was a GT2871R. Kick rocks.

Story seems credible. I know cuz I slept at a Holiday Inn express last night.
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if thats the truth what could be the other brandname replacement for something bolt-on on a s14a sr20det like the gt2871r?
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Yes, same company. They make theromostats and stuff for your house, airplane components, and turbos, among other things.
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I am so pissed that they stopped doing those commercials.
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I think someone got mad because his benefits got taken away(not too uncommon in this economy) and tried to get back at the company by writing this letter/post
Yeah if you Google "Garrett Lawsuit" the first thing that pops up is some class action about pensions.

I was looking for these Ford and Caterpillar stuff he is talking about and I can't find shit.
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Sounds like everything will be china spec within the next 5 years.
Ugh, please do say that...Just thinking about it, makes me sick!

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I used to be a part of making those turbo's and jet engine gears for military and commercial applications at honeywell aerospace/engines&systems at the phoenix facility next to sky-harbor airport til they outsourced and moved my specific load center as well as many others to czech republic and chihuahua, mexico - where garrett turbo parts are being made now =/
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