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01-26-2008, 11:08 AM | #212 | |
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Thanks blu808. yah, that bracket took a while to cut and file the ends round match the peterson bracket. The drum idea is pretty clever, I never would have thought of that. The only thing we've made out of those drums were BBQ's.
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01-26-2008, 05:05 PM | #215 | |
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i think he knows that, he was being funny.
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So, does anyone have tips for welding steel overhead/ vertical in a tight situation? think under the car.
Im using a Millermatic DVI2 with 0.030 solid core wire and mystery gas. I have to find out what it is. I asked my dad what he got when he filled it up and he didnt know. -Matt
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01-26-2008, 06:19 PM | #221 |
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It is pretty creative, I've seen it around a few times now... guess it must work decently.
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01-26-2008, 08:10 PM | #222 |
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kingston240: Thanks matt.
For welding overhead you are most likely getting chunky spattered welds? You need to turn up the gas flow for overhead work. A good rule of thumb is that a mig welder should sound like bacon frying in a pan. Turn up the gas until the bead is consistant. ditch_bound: Lets try to keep this thread serious. fakts13: Your right they have many uses. wheel tubs, BBQ, trash can, ect. sildrift86: Thanks. Practice makes perfect. ROUGE180: Thanks. Alot of other people on this thread have awesome skills as well. I have been building stuff and fabbing stuff ever since I can remember. one year for x mas when I was 4 my dad gave me a cordless drill. Within an hour I had taken almost everything in the house apart. O man was I in trouble.
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I already posted some of these pics. But ehh.
Here is some pics of a turbo kit I am making for s13, s14, fc3s with ls1/ls2 engines. S14 Also here is a cage I built for that car. Custom rear firewall Cool x bars. Fender brace. Pink sdp weld locd version 4 Then I murdered out my 929rr. Metalic charcole/ satin black.
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01-26-2008, 10:38 PM | #224 |
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^^^ Stock CA model 929! I had one of those, from 2001 to 2004, then I got spanked by a GSXR1k and never looked back =P Paint doesn't look too bad
When my pops and I was looking at boosting the Z06, I realized how friggin hard it is to find room for two turbos and all the associated piping with a LSx in the bay... then there's the issue of actually makign the power to make it all worthwhile, and not blowing the piston lands on #7... The Vortec turned out to be the simple option, and works very well. ~530rwhp @ 6psi. What kind of prep was done to those LSx's, and what kind of numbers are you hoping for? I sure to miss the turbo spool in the 'vette that I have in the S13.
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01-26-2008, 10:49 PM | #225 |
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I will post up more numbers on the turbo stuff once we actually dyno. I dont want to give out false numbers.
Anyway. The 929 is fun. I am more into knee dragging thank doing drag runs and with the gearing and mods I have it can smoke my friends 06 gsxr 750, and my buddies tl1000r, so its fast enough. Its really just a beater bike anyways. As for motor prep. The obvious fuel system, with 60# injectors, 2 bar map sensor, major tuning on our dyno with hp tuners, and 91 octane. With all the lsx cars we boost. we regularly see 550 whp on camaros, vettes, ect. with stock engines. Most of the hype around the internet of people blowing shit up is because it is not tuned correctly. After we have a good tune for the shop car we will be including that map with the turbo kits. Then I will be throwing in our 383 stroker ls1 which is being built right now for 950-1000 whp. say goodbye to the tranny, clutch, rear end, axles, and whatever is connected to them. lol
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01-27-2008, 01:32 AM | #226 |
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^^^ Wow. That's constructive. Luke, please don't get discouraged Oh look ditch, your green square is now red.
Can't wait to see the finished turbo kit! There's a lot of interest, and not very many kits that are durable (lots of cracking near the flanges, because it's so hard to support the turbo's weight), or make as much power as a simple Vortec. I know you'll do the work to do it right, which is what makes me excited
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01-27-2008, 11:53 AM | #227 |
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blu808: I usually see manifold that try to have equal lenght runners(or tubes ? I don't know). But yours is not like that, is this affecting performance in any way ? (talking about the gto engine)
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A long runner manifold or equal length would be beneficial to performance because it equals out the pulsing effect from each cylinder. It also is less restrictive.
The manifold I built is called a log style manifold. It is actually a very common style of manifold, and many cars use that design. So yes it would be better to use a equal length long runner manifold, but considering it is turbo charged, and that the ls1 makes so much exhaust cfm's it will work just fine with the log style.
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alright, i took some time saturday night to drink/work on the wheels tubs on one of our drift cars.I didn't get very far as i went through the orginal design and a few other variations. i made a bunch of cardboard templates and eventually built a rough draft of the one i think we will end up finishing off.
the cardboard templates... Thanks USPS. Took me a little time to get this all cut out and fitted still doesn't fit a 100% how i wanted, but its close enough. i will get some pictures from the bottom of the tub to show the way i tacked it together. This is the tub with the start of the flush mount relay box. I had this vision in my head, but im still not sure i will can pull it off as clean as i would like. I am still pretty new to sheet metal fabrication, with no formal training and learning basically everything i know on my own i figure i can teach myself over time. Sheet metal is cheap and i dont mind wasting it like with tube. Once i can get the wiring harness all back to how its ran stock i should beable to mount the box and tub to make sure final fitment and look is what i am going for, right now the tub has to sitt off because of how i have the harness pulled into the bay. This car was in a wreck and had the whole section infront of the towers replaced, and they did a really bad welding job on it, i cut the fender rails apart again and pulled the harness into the bay so i could cut the tub areas out, the owner a friend of mine decided to stitch weld the strut towers and the place i cut the fender rails back together.... now i have to clean off all his welds and recut the fender rails. FUN.... Completely unrelated, but here is a log manifold i made last year its a EvoIII big16G turbo on a Sr20det for a car we are working on, it will hopefully get to make it into the NOPI series this year.
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01-29-2008, 09:11 AM | #231 |
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i see a beer! haha.
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01-31-2008, 06:26 PM | #232 |
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Ok heres another fabrication project update.
So at work I decided to start building the exhaust system. We were going to use 3.5" tubing all the way back to the x pipe, but the tranny cross member was sitting too low. We want to maximize ground clearance, and have the frame be the lowest part of the car. The solution. Fabricate some round to oval collectors all while maintaining the same cubic area. Well here is what we started with. A v band, welded to a 3.5" piece of mandrel bent tubing. welded to 2 triangles, that are welded to a custom made piece of 2.5" x 7" oval tubing. All tig welded together. Yes that was a pain in the ass to make. And im not even half way done. Next was time to make the side pieces. bending a sliced piece of 3.5" tubing marking where to cut. Cut, and tacked up. On the car. Fits perfectly. THen I made the other one. Fucking sick. And yes it was a pain in the ass to make these. Then it was time to send some shit out to be powder coated. This meant that all bearings, seals, etc had to be removed. Fun. alternator ac pump. its a 7 cylinder Look at all the cute little pistons. Ps pump. Then Vic asked me to tig weld this stainless steering arm to a stainless u joint. Turned out great. Then I took a break and decided to work on the turbo kit. First I took the turbo and manifold and mocked up the system on the Ls1 FC. Fits good. Plenty of Downpipe clearance. Thats all for now. Im tired. lol
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I had a similar idea for the exhaust on my car when I do it, Luke. Once again, your work is awesome! Did I tell you the oval tubing was my idea? Did you steal my idea?
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Luke,
Those exhaust boom tubes are sick. That thing is gonna be loud! There are tons of boom tubes on ebay from nextel cup cars for pretty decent prices. Is that turbo V8 in a 240? Probably won't be fast Here is the new RS Maxi manifold tacked up. I'll remove each runner individually, weld them w/ back purging and then re install them and weld the last two welds. I still need to do the wastegate runners but will do that once I can get the engine back in the car. The material is 304. I would have liked to use 321 or 316 but it would have been over 3x the money. I'm going to send the manifold to zircotec in the UK (for coating) once it is completed. |
02-01-2008, 08:51 AM | #236 |
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Ok, since this is the fabrication thread, lets talk welders.
I think me and a few buddies are gonna go in together on a mig welder, probalby will have about 800 to spend. This will be something for seam welding and making a roll cage and other little stuff but we'll probably start light and work our way up the fabbing scale. http://store.cyberweld.com/millermatic175.html any opinions on this, and probably would pick it up with the spool gun? What else would you guys reccomend, lincolns? hobarts? Is it likely to get a pulsed mig at the price, or have i not been looking hard enough? EDIT, Nevermind, pulsed mig is not a cash option haha.
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02-01-2008, 09:30 AM | #237 |
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hey driftstyre: what gauge 304 are you using? I take it the car is gonna be for drag with a turbo that big? should be strong enough to hold up for a bit if it is for drag. your fitment on every cut is awesome on the runners (no gaps). how long did it take you to mock that up?
edit: just took a look at your build thread, nevermind what I said, nice project! aa87: that would probably be good enough for most projects. I prefer tigging aluminum, so I've never used a spool gun before. if you see yourself needing to weld aluminum, I'd get the spool gun. you don't need pulsed mig, just practice making your finger into the pulser Last edited by fakts13; 02-01-2008 at 10:40 AM.. |
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I bought my miller 140 through cyberweld. I have no complaints. I picked the millermatic 140 because it takes 110 volt and I don't see myself welding anything thick. If i do, i could bevel the work piece and do multiple passes.
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02-02-2008, 12:07 AM | #239 | |
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I just brought in an S14 SR with Apexi Power FC to use my gt2871r on and I figure the S14 intake manifold is a good excuse to do a vmount intercooler. I've already done all the measuring I need and have designed the system in CAD to help figure it all out. A few questions, do you know where I can order 1 3/8" aluminum straight pipe and tight radius mandrel bends? I need to rework the radiator pipe and I don't want to just use sections of hose :P. I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to mount my oil cooler on my right wheel tub or if I'll run it through my GTR style grill and out the first uras hood vent. -Jackson
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