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Brian · 05-13-2010, 03:45 PM

lol at all the sickly looking people I see when I go to Trader Joe's.

*Drift N Dragg* · 05-13-2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Our bodies are great at digesting cooked meat of all kinds. Our digestive tracts have changed to suit the cooked meat so we are no longer as well suited to eating uncooked meat.

As far as chicken soup goes the broth is made up of seasoning and connective tissue dissolved in water. If made correctly there are no "flavorings". When I make soup the only part "man" had any part in is chopping the veggies and throwing it in a pot with the chicken.

If you are wrong I'm calling you out. I don't care who's side you are on if it's wrong it's wrong.

Next Time you post, make it correct.

EDIT:
Where were you helping my point? A counter point does not help me.

Fine:

Looking at the Label, Want me to take a Picture?

Egg noodles (enriched durum semolina flour, whole egg) cream soup base: enriched bleached flour, partially hydrogenated soy bean oil, cornstarch, sea salt, cane sugar, hydrolyzed phosphate, silicon dioxide, disodium inosinate, disodium guanylate, lecithin, flavoring.

Red Meat:

Quote:

The mainstream perspective in the United States is that red meat should be a very limited part of a healthy diet. This is primarily based on the fact that it contains saturated fat, which the American Heart Association says is the main dietary cause of high blood cholesterol.
Meanwhile, studies have linked red meat to a number of chronic diseases, including:

Breast cancer
Colon cancer
Prostate cancer
Heart disease

Conventionally speaking, it is because of findings like these that the common healthy diet mantra in the United States sounds something like this:
"The less red meat the better," says Dr. Walter Willett, professor of epidemiology and nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health. "At most, it should be eaten only occasionally. And it may be maximally effective not to eat red meat at all."

Eating Red Meat: Once and for All, Is it Bad for You or Good for You?

I am in no way saying its bad for you 100%, there are Good qualities about it.. Maybe you should slow your Roll alittle bit Mr. Offensive..

Apparently you Missed the point again... When I say RED meat, does not mean RAW or Slightly cooked.. Red Meat is Red Meat, whether RAW or COOKED .. But OMG, you Knew this Right?? Red Meat is aimed at Steak/Hamburger Style Meats, and why you ask? Because its RED ...

Thanks for Putting me on "BLAST" Worked out well for you, didn't it..

*kingkilburn* · 05-13-2010, 03:54 PM

I don't buy that shit. I made a point of saying I don't buy from industries I don't like. The only soup I buy is tomato and I pay close attention to what's in it.

I don't add "flavoring" to my food and I don't use all that stuff to make pasta either.

As far as red meat goes correlation is not causation.

I looks like it did work out well.

*Drift N Dragg* · 05-13-2010, 04:03 PM

Ok Dude... Play as you will .. I see the Direction you are taking this ....

Please Continue...

*kingkilburn* · 05-13-2010, 04:04 PM

Why do you think I bothered to type it?

Brian · 05-13-2010, 04:22 PM

Drift and Drg your bullshit meter is rising fast.
1%

*kingkilburn* · 05-13-2010, 04:28 PM

And this shit wasn't even about pro or anti meat.

The title should have been:
Meat is awesome. If you disagree you're a * Watch It *

lol

theicecreamdan · 05-13-2010, 07:13 PM

I'd wager that most of the connection between cancers and red meat is more closely related to all the processed shit people eat and not the meat itself.

*kingkilburn* · 05-13-2010, 07:17 PM

It calls a lot into question.
What were the methods used to gather the data?
What else did the people questioned eat and how much?
How in shape were those questioned?
In what form did they eat red meat?

For all I know they were all fat slobs sitting around eating slimjims all day.

ronmcdon · 05-13-2010, 07:36 PM

Well, red meats generally have more calories, saturated fats, etc.
All things equal, those things increase the liklihood you get obesity, heart problems, etc.
Of course it also varies person to person to some degree.

Think cancer is more difficult to understand.
I agree how the meat is processed, how the animals are raised, preparation of meat, may be a more significant factor.
Cancer is a lot more frieghtening than just about anything else imo.
You can lead an otherwise healthy life, but still die of it out of the blue.

drftwerks · 05-16-2010, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Drift N Dragg

Your Statement is completely False.

Animals were NOT created for the Purpose of Food. They were turned that way by Man....

You said "created" implying that you may be referencing the whole biblical creation theory, in which case - yes, animals were indeed created for the purpose of food and to assist man with work. If you were not referencing the bible, then i would imagine survival of the fittest would be enough reason to eat whatever you can kill or buy.

just sayin'

VROOOM · 05-16-2010, 01:39 PM

05-13-2010, 03:45 PM	#31
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	lol at all the sickly looking people I see when I go to Trader Joe's. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

05-13-2010, 03:54 PM	#33
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't buy that shit. I made a point of saying I don't buy from industries I don't like. The only soup I buy is tomato and I pay close attention to what's in it. I don't add "flavoring" to my food and I don't use all that stuff to make pasta either. As far as red meat goes correlation is not causation. I looks like it did work out well. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

05-13-2010, 04:04 PM	#35
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why do you think I bothered to type it? __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

05-13-2010, 04:22 PM	#36
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Drift and Drg your bullshit meter is rising fast. 1% __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/ Last edited by Drift N Dragg; 05-16-2010 at 02:26 PM..

05-13-2010, 04:28 PM	#37
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	And this shit wasn't even about pro or anti meat. The title should have been: Meat is awesome. If you disagree you're a * Watch It * lol __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C Last edited by Drift N Dragg; 05-16-2010 at 02:27 PM.. Reason: boarderline Personal Attack, Read Rules.

05-13-2010, 07:17 PM	#39
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It calls a lot into question. What were the methods used to gather the data? What else did the people questioned eat and how much? How in shape were those questioned? In what form did they eat red meat? For all I know they were all fat slobs sitting around eating slimjims all day. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

05-13-2010, 07:36 PM	#40
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Well, red meats generally have more calories, saturated fats, etc. All things equal, those things increase the liklihood you get obesity, heart problems, etc. Of course it also varies person to person to some degree. Think cancer is more difficult to understand. I agree how the meat is processed, how the animals are raised, preparation of meat, may be a more significant factor. Cancer is a lot more frieghtening than just about anything else imo. You can lead an otherwise healthy life, but still die of it out of the blue.

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