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*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-18-2008, 10:05 AM

Kobe couldnt make a shot for himself if his life depended on it. What the hell happened to him??? Seems like all of a sudden he lost all his fucking footwork. He was running around like he has fucking lead in his shoes...

SimpleSexy180 · 06-18-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eastcoastS14

woooo nasty game from what I saw lol went into boston and everywhere was at maximum capacity about 3 hours before we got in. Ended up finding a hard rock cafe that was also packed but watched the last half....boston was insaaaaaaaaaaaaane after the game...ppl climbing light posts and takin down stop signs all kinds of riot patrol and everything...crazy shit

after the patriots...all the pent up emotions came out.

Brian · 06-18-2008, 10:19 AM

hahah eat shit LAKERS

98koukile · 06-18-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by revat619

I'm not even gonna dignify this with a response.

I can talk basketball all day, but i'll only do it with people who know basketball.

You dont and its painfully obvious.

Sorry I'm not west coast biased, just think even when the playoffs started no one gave the celts or the pistons the time of day. Every poll was which west coast team would win the finals. The Celtics walked all over the west coast this whole year and it still took them 7 games to beat Detroit. Someone hit the nail on the head when they said it takes 5 people to win, the lakers had one, Celts had 7. Even when the big 3 were off the court their heart was carrying Posey and Rondo and Powe.

It's easy to see why the Celtics won, this is an annual event for the Lakers. The Lakers have been a top team the whole time that the Celtics were trying to get back to the finals. To have one chance at something makes you try that much harder to get it, and thats all it took this time around... the Lakers will come back strong next year for sure, only time will tell if the Celtics will be there

pink godzila · 06-18-2008, 10:52 AM

Sigh LAKER play like a team that dose not belong to FINAL!!!

eastcoastS14 · 06-18-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SimpleSexy180

after the patriots...all the pent up emotions came out.

yeah seriously....lots of kids downtown were saying the celtics were makin up for the pats and they started the mandatory yankees suck chant at the bar haha

ill post up some cell phone vids later when i get a chance

Brian · 06-18-2008, 11:01 AM

This one is for YOU, Larry Bird.

0100 · 06-18-2008, 11:09 AM

^word

I am 32 this is the basketball I remember.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULvo7__wwBU[/ame]

Gnnr · 06-18-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 98koukile

Sorry I'm not west coast biased, just think even when the playoffs started no one gave the celts or the pistons the time of day. Every poll was which west coast team would win the finals. The Celtics walked all over the west coast this whole year and it still took them 7 games to beat Detroit. Someone hit the nail on the head when they said it takes 5 people to win, the lakers had one, Celts had 7. Even when the big 3 were off the court their heart was carrying Posey and Rondo and Powe.

It's easy to see why the Celtics won, this is an annual event for the Lakers. The Lakers have been a top team the whole time that the Celtics were trying to get back to the finals. To have one chance at something makes you try that much harder to get it, and thats all it took this time around... the Lakers will come back strong next year for sure, only time will tell if the Celtics will be there

Of course everyone picked the Lakers, even I changed my original prediction of the Celts in 7. Why? Because the way they played before reaching the finals. I mean, losing to the Hawks!? C'mon. That shouldn't have happened. Thats what everyone was going off of. Had the Celts had the same playoff record that the Lakers had with the same kind of dominance (sweeping one series, taking the Spurs in 5) and not having played those game 7s, maybe the predictions would have been much more even. Yes they won, but they played a lot of ugly basketball. Hell, there was a lot of ugly basketball from all the teams in this post-season. I want to see more finesse, structure, and wise decision making next season.

SimpleS14 · 06-18-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnnr

Damn, I was gonna say that but I didn't think it was it. I typed Paul Pierce shoes in Google Image and it came up, but it looked nothing like the pics I was comparing it to.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?sl..._ga&prov=getty

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?sl..._ga&prov=getty

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo?sl...lal&prov=getty

It's the same shoe...just different color.

Where is my +rep PHLIP?

BOROSUN · 06-18-2008, 01:00 PM

^^^ not me.

im always for pro-east. except for denver cause of AI.

its knicks turn next season!!!

racepar1 · 06-18-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Kobe couldnt make a shot for himself if his life depended on it. What the hell happened to him??? Seems like all of a sudden he lost all his fucking footwork. He was running around like he has fucking lead in his shoes...

Like I said before, it will not take the best defensive team in the league very long to stop one player no matter how good that one guy is. The rest of the lakers team just plain didn't show up.

Dutchmalmiss · 06-18-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by racepar1

Like I said before, it will not take the best defensive team in the league very long to stop one player no matter how good that one guy is. The rest of the lakers team just plain didn't show up.

+1. I wonder how the starters are going to be next season. I'm thinkin with Bynum back and Gasol moving to a more comfortable forward position along Odom, and then Kobe and Farmar/Fisher as the guards, we might be fuckin BOSS for next season.

Rob's S14 · 06-18-2008, 01:22 PM

Props to Tim Legler...the only guy on ESPN that picked the Celtics. Everyone else is all talking now saying it's no surprise that C's won...that's BS they were all picking Lakers in 5 and 6 just like on here.

*revat619* · 06-18-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by racepar1

Like I said before, it will not take the best defensive team in the league very long to stop one player no matter how good that one guy is. The rest of the lakers team just plain didn't show up.

Exactly.

When its basically 5 on 1, it really isnt that hard to stop a guy. And no he wasnt ball hogging.

If the rest of the team is gonna sleep then he has no choice.

I swear, Kobe cant do anything right with some of you people. He passes the ball and doesnt shoot as much he's being lazy and not getting involved. His team basically stops playing so he takes over all offensive responsibilities and he's a ball hog....

Get the fuck outta here.

And no he's not trying to compare himself to Jordan. Have any of you seen the interviews?! He hates that comparison. He said it himself that its ridiculous and that Jordan is on a completely different level. He just wants to be Kobe.

Gnnr · 06-18-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by revat619

And no he's not trying to compare himself to Jordan. Have any of you seen the interviews?! He hates that comparison. He said it himself that its ridiculous and that Jordan is on a completely different level. He just wants to be Kobe.

Only one that said that was 98koukile. What Rob's S14 was describing really was poor decision making.

Rob's S14 · 06-18-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by revat619

Exactly.

When its basically 5 on 1, it really isnt that hard to stop a guy. And no he wasnt ball hogging.

If the rest of the team is gonna sleep then he has no choice.

I swear, Kobe cant do anything right with some of you people. He passes the ball and doesnt shoot as much he's being lazy and not getting involved. His team basically stops playing so he takes over all offensive responsibilities and he's a ball hog....

Get the fuck outta here.

And no he's not trying to compare himself to Jordan. Have any of you seen the interviews?! He hates that comparison. He said it himself that its ridiculous and that Jordan is on a completely different level. He just wants to be Kobe.

it's not so much kobe ball hogging it's the stupid shots that he takes. again if he took smart shots instead of forcing things, people would have nothing to say.

and of course kobe is going to say he hates the comparison to MJ but in reality you know he wants to be as good as him and it's never going to happen. what you want him to say "yeah I'm as good MJ, maybe better" get real. nobody will ever admit to wanting to be the next MJ, even LeBron, but in his case why else would he choose 23?

*revat619* · 06-18-2008, 02:04 PM

true those shots were bad. But think about it, who else was stepping up? They get flustered then they just stand around. Call me crazy, but i'll take a poor shot attempt from Kobe over any other Laker or their lack there of any day of the week. ATLEAST the dude is giving it his all instead of just bitching out and not showing up (insert any other Laker)

EDIT: So what if he wants to be as good as him? Dude what the fuck is your deal? What is so wrong with him wanting to be the best? So by your logic having a competitive nature is pointless. Anybody thats truly passionate about their sport wants to be the best. That holds true no matter what sport it is. How do you not get that?

Seriously, if you dont like the guy, just say you dont like the guy.

yudalicious · 06-18-2008, 02:11 PM

Hey I think Kobe took some bad jumpshots, but I also think some of his bad shots were because he sometimes really had no where to go or drive the ball, credit to Boston's D. At that point I'd rather Kobe jack up a long jumper than Sasha or someone try to create a shot for themselves. If I were Kobe and my best wingman shows up half the times (LO) and my best big man plays like he's scared (Gasol) than I'll probably try to force some issues too. Boston's D figured out Kobe and the Lakers but Kobe and the Lakers couldn't figure out Boston's D.

And everyone overrated the Lakers and underrated the Celtics because the Celtics struggled before the finals while the Lakers rolled (which, in hindsight, was a boon for the Celtics), not because they have something against Boston or because they love Kobe's nuts, get over this everyone hates us and disrespects us thing. This is not really directed at you, Rob, just a random insert.

Edit: I agree Revat. Just saw your post after I posted mine. Everyone hates Kobe and hates how he wants to be MJ. I've no doubt he wants to be even better than MJ, but what's wrong with that?

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Originally Posted by Rob's S14

Odom didn't win MVP.

Couple thoughts after the asskicking that was game 6. Lakers played like shit, because of Boston's defense. What happened to the Laker offense this series. 9 out of 10 times down the floor they give Kobe the ball at the top and he either tries to make something happen (shot, drive, drive and kick) but if he passes and nothing happens he runs in a circle and demands the ball back and starts the same process again.

As for Kobe, I still think he's a ball hog but for maybe different reasons than other people. It's not whether or not he passes the ball. To me it's the shots he takes. He was 7-22 last night, but how many of those shots were bad ill advised, forced shots or shots early in the clock. If he took 22 high % shots and only made 7 it would be one thing, but he forces so many bad shots. Now being that Kobe is a great player he does make those some times, but when he doesn't it opens the team up to fast breaks and being out of rotation and gets the rest of the offense out of whack. Maybe ball hog is the wrong term, because he's not a ball hog for the whole game anymore...he just does it in spurts throughout the game.

Anyways, I'm glad the big 3 all finally got theirs. Time to look forward to the draft and see how all the teams stack up...off season moves are gonna start soon and that's always exciting.

**Phlip** · 06-18-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

It's the same shoe...just different color.

Where is my +rep PHLIP?

Find me those black ones in a 10.5 and you got it, lol

stiizy · 06-18-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BOROSUN

its knicks turn next season!!!

dude never knicks aint doing shit in the near-future.. and i'm from NY.. like i said b4 all we got is the yankees(suck this year) and the giants( i'm a patriot,cowboy fan<--for T.O.)

Not bashing just being real

Rob's S14 · 06-18-2008, 02:22 PM

There is nothing wrong with him wanting to be that good. I don't remember saying it was a bad thing ever.

The reason his teammates are just "standing around" is because once they miss a few times Kobe starts calling for the ball at the top of the key and calling an iso. That's fine if it's working but since the defense was only giving him jump shots an iso isn't going to work. Had they stuck to running the offense, you know going inside to Pau first and cutting through the lane they would get better shots. It showed in the first quarter, but all of a sudden a few shots don't fall and he takes a few bad shots and it just snowballed.

Kobe can "give his all" without taking bad shots. How bout play defense. How many times did Pierce get by him, or that lazy defense he played on Rondo allowing him to get by him for a layup or get to the lane.

All of this blame doesn't fall on Kobe...Phil should be taking alot of heat too, but it seems like he's getting a pass, which is wrong.

BTW, competition is good...and nothing the fuck is wrong with me thank you.

ALTRNTV · 06-18-2008, 02:29 PM

Some people just can't see and understand the passion he has for the game. He doesn't want to be MJ. He wants to be BETTER than MJ. What's so wrong about that? Some people just have a hidden hate for him. Yes he's cocky at times, yes he has had his problems in the past, yes his image isn't as good as what it used to be, but who gives a fuck? The guy works harder than anyone in the league, but gets shit for it. The guy can't win with any of you close-minded people, or the media. He gets no love. He's a great teammate, as all his Lakers this year have said. You always see him talking to them and giving them advice during the game. Even when the Lakers were down 30+ last night, you saw him talking to Odom and Gasol about the gameplan.

The draft is next week!

Someone go make an '08-09 NBA Off-Season Thread.

racepar1 · 06-18-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by revat619

true those shots were bad. But think about it, who else was stepping up? They get flustered then they just stand around. Call me crazy, but i'll take a poor shot attempt from Kobe over any other Laker or their lack there of any day of the week. ATLEAST the dude is giving it his all instead of just bitching out and not showing up (insert any other Laker)

EDIT: So what if he wants to be as good as him? Dude what the fuck is your deal? What is so wrong with him wanting to be the best? So by your logic having a competitive nature is pointless. Anybody thats truly passionate about their sport wants to be the best. That holds true no matter what sport it is. How do you not get that?

Seriously, if you dont like the guy, just say you dont like the guy.

EXACTLY! The rest of the team was useless, so all the celtics d had to do was tune in on Kobe. If the d is tuned in on Kobe and the rest of the team is not moving then all Kobe can do it throw it up. LO started to play a bit in the second half, gasol never seemed to even make it off the god damn plane, radmonovic was absolutely useless, farmar did nothing, sasha did nothing, fisher couldn't get anything going, kobe could only get it going in the first quarter before the celtics focused on him. There were no other options but to fins some space and throw it up. Phil completely failed in keeping the team focused and he doesn't seem to be emphasizing defense at all to the team. Defense is what wins chanmionships and the celtics proved that.

stiizy · 06-18-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by racepar1

EXACTLY! The rest of the team was useless, so all the celtics d had to do was tune in on Kobe. If the d is tuned in on Kobe and the rest of the team is not moving then all Kobe can do it throw it up. LO started to play a bit in the second half, gasol never seemed to even make it off the god damn plane, radmonovic was absolutely useless, farmar did nothing, sasha did nothing, fisher couldn't get anything going, kobe could only get it going in the first quarter before the celtics focused on him. There were no other options but to fins some space and throw it up. Phil completely failed in keeping the team focused and he doesn't seem to be emphasizing defense at all to the team. Defense is what wins chanmionships and the celtics proved that.

Well put +1...................

SimpleS14 · 06-18-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PHLIP

Find me those black ones in a 10.5 and you got it, lol

No dice....apparently they are not available in adult sizes :|

Dutchmalmiss · 06-18-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AkademikONE

Someone go make an '08-09 NBA Off-Season Thread.

I think that's something you'd be obliged to do

With Bynum back, we'll DEFINITELY step up our defensive game. Either they need to get a new defensive coach, or keep studying game footage from the finals.

Rob's S14 · 06-18-2008, 02:44 PM

AGAIN....I never said there was anything wrong with wanting to be as good/better than MJ, hell I want to be that good too. I agree Kobe does work his ass off, there's no plausible argument there.

I think the Lakers should scrap the Triangle,(since they rarely use it anyways) and gear up for more a motion offense. They're jump shooters anyways so that seems like it would free more people up. Unless they are willing to stick to the Triangle at all times and be more disciplined...and yeah some D would help.

racepar1 · 06-18-2008, 02:51 PM

Honestly if I was Phil I would have tried some VERY different lineups in the 3rd quarter. Anything to try to control the paint. I would have even gone as far as mihm, gasol, ronny, odom, and kobe. Just try to out-muscle them. I mean it is the finals! Your team is pathetic at this point! Why not do some weird shit to try to get something going? At least put two bigs on the floor at the same time! 3 bigs like in the line-up I listed above is pretty damn extreme.

Sil-Eighty SE-K · 06-18-2008, 04:01 PM

big parade tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!! w00t!!! these are getting really comfy

06-18-2008, 10:05 AM	#1171
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Kobe couldnt make a shot for himself if his life depended on it. What the hell happened to him??? Seems like all of a sudden he lost all his fucking footwork. He was running around like he has fucking lead in his shoes... __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

06-18-2008, 10:19 AM	#1173
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06-18-2008, 11:01 AM	#1177
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06-18-2008, 11:09 AM	#1178
0100 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New England Posts: 1,581 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	^word I am 32 this is the basketball I remember. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULvo7__wwBU[/ame] __________________ TougeHero.com l SilviaV8forums.com

06-18-2008, 02:04 PM	#1188
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	true those shots were bad. But think about it, who else was stepping up? They get flustered then they just stand around. Call me crazy, but i'll take a poor shot attempt from Kobe over any other Laker or their lack there of any day of the week. ATLEAST the dude is giving it his all instead of just bitching out and not showing up (insert any other Laker) EDIT: So what if he wants to be as good as him? Dude what the fuck is your deal? What is so wrong with him wanting to be the best? So by your logic having a competitive nature is pointless. Anybody thats truly passionate about their sport wants to be the best. That holds true no matter what sport it is. How do you not get that? Seriously, if you dont like the guy, just say you dont like the guy. __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

06-18-2008, 10:52 AM	#1175
pink godzila Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SoCal / Japan Tokyo Posts: 4,179 Trader Rating: (226) Feedback Score: 226 reviews	Sigh LAKER play like a team that dose not belong to FINAL!!!

06-18-2008, 01:00 PM	#1181
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^ not me. im always for pro-east. except for denver cause of AI. its knicks turn next season!!!

06-18-2008, 01:22 PM	#1184
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,198 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Props to Tim Legler...the only guy on ESPN that picked the Celtics. Everyone else is all talking now saying it's no surprise that C's won...that's BS they were all picking Lakers in 5 and 6 just like on here.

06-18-2008, 02:22 PM	#1192
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,198 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	There is nothing wrong with him wanting to be that good. I don't remember saying it was a bad thing ever. The reason his teammates are just "standing around" is because once they miss a few times Kobe starts calling for the ball at the top of the key and calling an iso. That's fine if it's working but since the defense was only giving him jump shots an iso isn't going to work. Had they stuck to running the offense, you know going inside to Pau first and cutting through the lane they would get better shots. It showed in the first quarter, but all of a sudden a few shots don't fall and he takes a few bad shots and it just snowballed. Kobe can "give his all" without taking bad shots. How bout play defense. How many times did Pierce get by him, or that lazy defense he played on Rondo allowing him to get by him for a layup or get to the lane. All of this blame doesn't fall on Kobe...Phil should be taking alot of heat too, but it seems like he's getting a pass, which is wrong. BTW, competition is good...and nothing the fuck is wrong with me thank you.

06-18-2008, 02:29 PM	#1193
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Some people just can't see and understand the passion he has for the game. He doesn't want to be MJ. He wants to be BETTER than MJ. What's so wrong about that? Some people just have a hidden hate for him. Yes he's cocky at times, yes he has had his problems in the past, yes his image isn't as good as what it used to be, but who gives a fuck? The guy works harder than anyone in the league, but gets shit for it. The guy can't win with any of you close-minded people, or the media. He gets no love. He's a great teammate, as all his Lakers this year have said. You always see him talking to them and giving them advice during the game. Even when the Lakers were down 30+ last night, you saw him talking to Odom and Gasol about the gameplan. The draft is next week! Someone go make an '08-09 NBA Off-Season Thread.

06-18-2008, 02:44 PM	#1198
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,198 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	AGAIN....I never said there was anything wrong with wanting to be as good/better than MJ, hell I want to be that good too. I agree Kobe does work his ass off, there's no plausible argument there. I think the Lakers should scrap the Triangle,(since they rarely use it anyways) and gear up for more a motion offense. They're jump shooters anyways so that seems like it would free more people up. Unless they are willing to stick to the Triangle at all times and be more disciplined...and yeah some D would help. Last edited by Rob's S14; 06-18-2008 at 02:46 PM.. Reason: something to add

06-18-2008, 02:51 PM	#1199
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Honestly if I was Phil I would have tried some VERY different lineups in the 3rd quarter. Anything to try to control the paint. I would have even gone as far as mihm, gasol, ronny, odom, and kobe. Just try to out-muscle them. I mean it is the finals! Your team is pathetic at this point! Why not do some weird shit to try to get something going? At least put two bigs on the floor at the same time! 3 bigs like in the line-up I listed above is pretty damn extreme.

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