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bardabe · 09-17-2010, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrflip69

Haltech Platinum Pro uses OEM knock sensor. I think the new AEM series use it too--Nistune obviously.

Plenty of people run PFCs without knock control though...

If you've got a good tuner, it shouldn't be a problem, but I figure it's always good to have an extra fail safe for those hot days and extra crappy gas.

I'm more interested to see you fit all the AC/rad/fan stuff though, as there's barely any room with my setup--but S14 has just a bit more room than an S13.

fitting it is easy, keeping it cool is the hard part.

Sileighty_85 · 09-17-2010, 10:40 PM

Just got in my Steering overhaul package.
(I already got some Moog Outer Tie Rod Ends)

tricky_ab · 09-18-2010, 06:55 AM

Damn you've got great attention to details. Nice job on the harness.

fender-startocaster · 09-18-2010, 12:02 PM

^ im with him! your attention in detail shows especially in how well documented your thread is.

Sileighty_85 · 09-18-2010, 09:23 PM

Thanks Guys ^^
I believe in doing it right the first time with quality parts

Got everything installed today, I would have kinda done a step by step but didnt think about it at the time

A BIG noticeable difference after everything, Steering is much more responsive and stiff.

The Tein Tie Rods came with steering angle spaces.
I must say i never expected that a 1/4in metal ring would make such a noticeable difference in steering angle

yeah a def need to get some Angle adjuster tie rod ends

eklips3 · 09-19-2010, 02:14 AM

the tein tie rods are dope hey. i've got the same in my car

i took my car for a spin today and tested my turning radius , i was laughing the whole time.

you basically turn and your inside rear wheel is pretty much stationary

redline racer510 · 09-21-2010, 10:15 PM

M an your build looks exactly like mines with the exception of the new oilpan. Man i have been looking for the P/N for the front timing cover for like a week thanks for the info. I will post pics as soon as i get my timing cover and rocker covers in.
Think "satin wrinkle black"

redline racer510 · 09-26-2010, 01:45 PM

damn what happened to this build thread did it die or something lol?

Sileighty_85 · 09-26-2010, 02:06 PM

nah man its still happening.

I had to wait until my wifes GC interview in New Orleans before taking the next step.

Im iffy on my wiring harness so Im gonna send it off and have it checked over before pluging it in.

But I will start pulling the KA and dropping the RB in when it starts cooling off, or within two weeks

Sileighty_85 · 09-26-2010, 08:16 PM

so anyone know for a fact or have pics if its possible to put the FAL fans on the Koyo Rad as pullers with Syko Mounts, WITHOUT cutting the Upper Core Support?

Im kinda not wanting to sandwich it behind the condenser, thinking it might not be efficient enough

Freddy · 09-26-2010, 08:41 PM

Man this build is making me think of doing a rb25 swap instead of ka-t, keep up the good work

mrflip69 · 09-27-2010, 01:30 AM

Dunno if it'll fit with your fancy condenser but with the stock one on an S14, you will be able to barely fit a clutch fan by just bashing the upper core support a bit if any.

Yellow4g63 · 09-27-2010, 03:14 AM

I had to cut my upper core support and drill new holes to move the radiator forward enough for the fan clutch to fit with my Koyo. Mckinney mounts.

fender-startocaster · 09-27-2010, 08:26 AM

^^ that looks good but damn its missing a lot of the support. Could it be possible to obtain shorter radiator that would fit underneath the core support as if it was tucked in forward?

OBEEWON · 09-27-2010, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bardabe

fitting it is easy, keeping it cool is the hard part.

Ugh. So true. Im about to give up and take mine out. As of Friday I can no longer keep it cool with all the AC crap.

I want to put in my clutch fan so bad but I do not want to cut my rad support at all. Im on ZeroLift mounts and there is not much space. Even my E-fans are mm's from my pulleys.

singlecamslam · 09-27-2010, 03:44 PM

Yea Rb's and cooling dont get along so well. I use pusher fans SO FAR so good. I'm with Obee i would hate to cut my support.

redline racer510 · 10-03-2010, 07:26 PM

sileighty85 Im debating the exact same thing and what I am leaning towards is the flexalite 106-398( these things are supposedly 1 3/8" thick). I'm thinking of mounting 2 of these in front of my condenser and fabbing up a piece of plastic that seals up the area around both of the fans to draw in the air while the car is at a stop and possibly a smaller fan on the other side that is controlled through a switch. I heard not even the FAL fans fit properly so upon reading about many other peoples setup the front pusher setup sounds ideal to me.

asianbluesi · 10-03-2010, 07:49 PM

Hmmmm.....you guys got me 2nd thinking the route I went with my fan setup. Since I live in the desert.....here in AZ, i ended up wiring up 3 mishimoto fans.
2 pushers (in front of the radiator)
1 puller (behind the radiator)
-The puller is always on.
-1 pusher is wired to turn on when the temp gauge needs it to
-Other pusher set up for when I use AC
Is this not an optimal/ideal setup?....should I have gone with the 2 flex-a-lite fans instead?

Sileighty,
I just recently found out about the pre-made wire harness conversion done by Yuri. I am in the same boat as you.....waiting for the RB25 S2 into a S14 chassis. Have you heard anything else from him? I want to get this pre-made harness asap....but dont want to wait another 2-4 months.

BTW....this is a great thread....keep up the excellent work!

Elmer

Sileighty_85 · 10-03-2010, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redline racer510

sileighty85 Im debating the exact same thing and what I am leaning towards is the flexalite 106-398( these things are supposedly 1 3/8" thick). I'm thinking of mounting 2 of these in front of my condenser and fabbing up a piece of plastic that seals up the area around both of the fans to draw in the air while the car is at a stop and possibly a smaller fan on the other side that is controlled through a switch. I heard not even the FAL fans fit properly so upon reading about many other peoples setup the front pusher setup sounds ideal to me.

Sounds good, Id make sure that the fans can push the 2500cfm (seems to be the best cfm)

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianbluesi

Hmmmm.....you guys got me 2nd thinking the route I went with my fan setup. Since I live in the desert.....here in AZ, i ended up wiring up 3 mishimoto fans.
2 pushers (in front of the radiator)
1 puller (behind the radiator)
-The puller is always on.
-1 pusher is wired to turn on when the temp gauge needs it to
-Other pusher set up for when I use AC
Is this not an optimal/ideal setup?....should I have gone with the 2 flex-a-lite fans instead?

Shit man if it works Id keep it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianbluesi

Sileighty,
I just recently found out about the pre-made wire harness conversion done by Yuri. I am in the same boat as you.....waiting for the RB25 S2 into a S14 chassis. Have you heard anything else from him? I want to get this pre-made harness asap....but dont want to wait another 2-4 months.

BTW....this is a great thread....keep up the excellent work!

Elmer

Still in development, they were having issues with finding and ECU plug and are in the process of making them now. Still no date or ETC.

I'll be sending my harness I "Repaired" and "Converted" to Yury to have him inspect it, since the harness was so hacked up.

If i had an unfucked harness Id probably trust it but dont wanna risk frying my ECU

VQMaxFan · 10-04-2010, 12:53 AM

Hey pat how have those isis arms been holding up for you?

Small freaking world dude, chit chatted with a guy and his wife this weekend that said he was from Shreveport. I asked him if he knew you and the dude couldn't belive I knew you haha. I forgot their names but they were pretty cool. He said he was doing a rb vert, sbc hatch and a few coupes.

redline racer510 · 10-04-2010, 01:00 PM

Thats what me and my friend did to our wiring harness for both the s15 sr and my s1 RB he seems like a pretty knowlegeable guy and plus me and wiring harness modification work dont get along,lol.

Sileighty_85 · 10-04-2010, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VQMaxFan

Hey pat how have those isis arms been holding up for you?

Small freaking world dude, chit chatted with a guy and his wife this weekend that said he was from Shreveport. I asked him if he knew you and the dude couldn't belive I knew you haha. I forgot their names but they were pretty cool. He said he was doing a rb vert, sbc hatch and a few coupes.

ISIS arms are holding like a champ. No issues still

I dont know anyone doing an RB vert, but it might be this one kid i know up here. Not sure if its actually gonna happen though. From what Ive heard hes had quite a few projects that havent worked out all that well.

do you know if it was an RB 20 or 25?

Quote:

Originally Posted by redline racer510

Thats what me and my friend did to our wiring harness for both the s15 sr and my s1 RB he seems like a pretty knowlegeable guy and plus me and wiring harness modification work dont get along,lol.

Yeah ive done quite a good bit of bussiness with Yury, Been happy with every product and very helpful to boot even at 10:00 at night

Sileighty_85 · 10-08-2010, 08:39 PM

So i finally got in my Hyper Gear Turbo
I wanted a turbo that bolted up to the stock exhaust and down pipe since i spent a good bit on the SYKO mount set. Not looking for 500hp just somthing more than stock so this turbo will do just fine

Key benefit:
360 degrees Thrust bearing Heat treated steel wheel and shaft Suitable for High Boost applications Product Goal: High Responds, High Torque. Long life time. OEM Bolton RB25det Upgrade.
sure i sacrifice the stock Ball Bearing system but now i got a rebuild-able turbo

Comparison between the Stock R33 turbo and the Hypergear R33 Turbo

Stock

Hyper Gear

Most noticeable difference is the Exhaust Wheel
The craptasic Ceramic wheel is replaces with a Steel turbine wheel

Stock

Hyper Gear

Ive been sick for the last 3 days but if i feel better I will begin pulling the KA on the S14 tomorrow

username · 10-08-2010, 09:40 PM

If you dont mind me asking, how much was that turbo and where'd you get it from? I've been looking into one of these for my rb25. Also how much hp is this one rated for?

Sileighty_85 · 10-08-2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by username

If you dont mind me asking, how much was that turbo and where'd you get it from? I've been looking into one of these for my rb25. Also how much hp is this one rated for?

HyperGear - 450HP RB25det Hiflow Turbo

Conversion is moderately priced, Shipping is what pushes it over the top. It would be about $200 total in shipping since they are located in Australia.

Instead of sending my turbo to them they were able to locate a R33 turbo over there for the same price that it would cost to ship. So im able to keep the turbo an rock it if I were waiting on it to come in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Gear Email

The Max boost which the high flow can handle depending on the type of turbine housing that you want to send in or what we can find here. Generally standard RB25det turbine housing can handle about 16psi making about 240rwkws while the RB25detNEO turbine housings can handle about 18psi making around 260rwkws.
If you need we can provide the PU service which runs of a customized .82 turbine housing that is good for 20psi and 280rwkws .
The oil feeding line needs to have minimum of 3mm inner diameter including all the fittings on the way. We can supply the oil feeding line for $80AUD additional.

username · 10-08-2010, 09:49 PM

Thanks for the info. Yeah i think shipping costs is whats keeping me from going that route. Definitely a nice snag.

Sileighty_85 · 10-09-2010, 09:54 PM

Alright guys Stage 1 is complete!

Finally had some free time to pull the engine

hmmm KA48

Hmmm what else needs to be taken out

ahhhh finally

Time to Power Wash

So after the engine bay is cleaned and IC piping Preped then I can drop the RB in.

Hopefully I can do it next weekend depending on how my work week goes

tricky_ab · 10-09-2010, 10:33 PM

Engine is out?...You must be pumped!

Bubba Chaos · 10-09-2010, 11:14 PM

Glad to see your almost done... Seems like this is added up fast and indeed is an expensive build

Sileighty_85 · 10-10-2010, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricky_ab

Engine is out?...You must be pumped!

Indeed I am I cant wait to hear this baby roar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba Chaos

Glad to see your almost done... Seems like this is added up fast and indeed is an expensive build

Yeah It has. its almost been a year now since I bought the clip.
Mainly been waitin on parts and a wire harness

09-17-2010, 10:40 PM	#122
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Just got in my Steering overhaul package. (I already got some Moog Outer Tie Rod Ends) __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

09-18-2010, 09:23 PM	#125
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Thanks Guys ^^ I believe in doing it right the first time with quality parts Got everything installed today, I would have kinda done a step by step but didnt think about it at the time A BIG noticeable difference after everything, Steering is much more responsive and stiff. The Tein Tie Rods came with steering angle spaces. I must say i never expected that a 1/4in metal ring would make such a noticeable difference in steering angle yeah a def need to get some Angle adjuster tie rod ends __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

09-19-2010, 02:14 AM	#126
eklips3 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calgary Canada Age: 31 Posts: 626 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	the tein tie rods are dope hey. i've got the same in my car i took my car for a spin today and tested my turning radius , i was laughing the whole time. you basically turn and your inside rear wheel is pretty much stationary __________________ 1992 240sx (RB20. [email protected])

09-26-2010, 02:06 PM	#129
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	nah man its still happening. I had to wait until my wifes GC interview in New Orleans before taking the next step. Im iffy on my wiring harness so Im gonna send it off and have it checked over before pluging it in. But I will start pulling the KA and dropping the RB in when it starts cooling off, or within two weeks __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

09-26-2010, 08:16 PM	#130
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	so anyone know for a fact or have pics if its possible to put the FAL fans on the Koyo Rad as pullers with Syko Mounts, WITHOUT cutting the Upper Core Support? Im kinda not wanting to sandwich it behind the condenser, thinking it might not be efficient enough __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

09-18-2010, 06:55 AM	#123
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,413 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Damn you've got great attention to details. Nice job on the harness.

09-18-2010, 12:02 PM	#124
fender-startocaster Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: palmdale Posts: 446 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^ im with him! your attention in detail shows especially in how well documented your thread is.

09-21-2010, 10:15 PM	#127
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	M an your build looks exactly like mines with the exception of the new oilpan. Man i have been looking for the P/N for the front timing cover for like a week thanks for the info. I will post pics as soon as i get my timing cover and rocker covers in. Think "satin wrinkle black"

09-26-2010, 01:45 PM	#128
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	damn what happened to this build thread did it die or something lol?

09-26-2010, 08:41 PM	#131
Freddy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 32 Posts: 568 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Man this build is making me think of doing a rb25 swap instead of ka-t, keep up the good work

09-27-2010, 03:14 AM	#133
Yellow4g63 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Socal Posts: 1,451 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I had to cut my upper core support and drill new holes to move the radiator forward enough for the fan clutch to fit with my Koyo. Mckinney mounts. __________________ 95 240sx RB20 415whp 91 Nx2000 VVL yo

09-27-2010, 08:26 AM	#134
fender-startocaster Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: palmdale Posts: 446 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^^ that looks good but damn its missing a lot of the support. Could it be possible to obtain shorter radiator that would fit underneath the core support as if it was tucked in forward?

09-27-2010, 03:44 PM	#136
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Yea Rb's and cooling dont get along so well. I use pusher fans SO FAR so good. I'm with Obee i would hate to cut my support. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

10-03-2010, 07:26 PM	#137
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	sileighty85 Im debating the exact same thing and what I am leaning towards is the flexalite 106-398( these things are supposedly 1 3/8" thick). I'm thinking of mounting 2 of these in front of my condenser and fabbing up a piece of plastic that seals up the area around both of the fans to draw in the air while the car is at a stop and possibly a smaller fan on the other side that is controlled through a switch. I heard not even the FAL fans fit properly so upon reading about many other peoples setup the front pusher setup sounds ideal to me.

10-03-2010, 07:49 PM	#138
asianbluesi Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Santa Clara Age: 40 Posts: 189 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Hmmmm.....you guys got me 2nd thinking the route I went with my fan setup. Since I live in the desert.....here in AZ, i ended up wiring up 3 mishimoto fans. 2 pushers (in front of the radiator) 1 puller (behind the radiator) -The puller is always on. -1 pusher is wired to turn on when the temp gauge needs it to -Other pusher set up for when I use AC Is this not an optimal/ideal setup?....should I have gone with the 2 flex-a-lite fans instead? Sileighty, I just recently found out about the pre-made wire harness conversion done by Yuri. I am in the same boat as you.....waiting for the RB25 S2 into a S14 chassis. Have you heard anything else from him? I want to get this pre-made harness asap....but dont want to wait another 2-4 months. BTW....this is a great thread....keep up the excellent work! Elmer

10-04-2010, 12:53 AM	#140
VQMaxFan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mobile AL Age: 32 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Hey pat how have those isis arms been holding up for you? Small freaking world dude, chit chatted with a guy and his wife this weekend that said he was from Shreveport. I asked him if he knew you and the dude couldn't belive I knew you haha. I forgot their names but they were pretty cool. He said he was doing a rb vert, sbc hatch and a few coupes.

10-04-2010, 01:00 PM	#141
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Thats what me and my friend did to our wiring harness for both the s15 sr and my s1 RB he seems like a pretty knowlegeable guy and plus me and wiring harness modification work dont get along,lol.

10-08-2010, 08:39 PM	#143
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	So i finally got in my Hyper Gear Turbo I wanted a turbo that bolted up to the stock exhaust and down pipe since i spent a good bit on the SYKO mount set. Not looking for 500hp just somthing more than stock so this turbo will do just fine Key benefit: 360 degrees Thrust bearing Heat treated steel wheel and shaft Suitable for High Boost applications Product Goal: High Responds, High Torque. Long life time. OEM Bolton RB25det Upgrade. sure i sacrifice the stock Ball Bearing system but now i got a rebuild-able turbo Comparison between the Stock R33 turbo and the Hypergear R33 Turbo Stock Hyper Gear Most noticeable difference is the Exhaust Wheel The craptasic Ceramic wheel is replaces with a Steel turbine wheel Stock Hyper Gear Ive been sick for the last 3 days but if i feel better I will begin pulling the KA on the S14 tomorrow __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit Last edited by Sileighty_85; 10-08-2010 at 09:58 PM..

10-08-2010, 09:40 PM	#144
username Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida Age: 31 Posts: 207 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	If you dont mind me asking, how much was that turbo and where'd you get it from? I've been looking into one of these for my rb25. Also how much hp is this one rated for?

10-08-2010, 09:49 PM	#146
username Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida Age: 31 Posts: 207 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Thanks for the info. Yeah i think shipping costs is whats keeping me from going that route. Definitely a nice snag.

10-09-2010, 09:54 PM	#147
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Alright guys Stage 1 is complete! Finally had some free time to pull the engine hmmm KA48 Hmmm what else needs to be taken out ahhhh finally Time to Power Wash So after the engine bay is cleaned and IC piping Preped then I can drop the RB in. Hopefully I can do it next weekend depending on how my work week goes __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

10-09-2010, 10:33 PM	#148
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,413 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Engine is out?...You must be pumped!

10-09-2010, 11:14 PM	#149
Bubba Chaos Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Grover Beach Age: 34 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Glad to see your almost done... Seems like this is added up fast and indeed is an expensive build

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