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OMG.. these coilover threads.

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udon!

According to s0apgun pbm are garbage compared to stance. He says he knows the owner of a company that knows how both are made. I personally would trust him because He seems pretty confident in what he's talking about.

I've heard there alot more comfortable than pbm and pbm weren't even that stiff to me.

Oh and pbm go like a half an inch lower than stance.

iheartmysil80

this thread does suck... but my for my 2 cents, PBM does slam but not recommended for dd since it IS 'competition' coilovers. As for comfort, c'mon dude, coilovers in general are never really comfortable.

SuicidnS13

Ricer = person who drives Asian Domestic Car slammed with a fart can - duh!!!!

Potatoe Gunner - person who drives a USDM car slammed with flowmasters

Cuscus Burner - Italian machine driver who fist pumps at clubs and has lots of gel in there hair...

ect

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nathanong87

i have cut springs....ultimately lowness.

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SuicidnS13

This is a great example of post whoring...

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c-los13

im sure everybody starts as a ricer
right????????????

Fffff it
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zooopreme

Coilovers aren't supposed to be "comfortable" per say and I've driven on Fortunes (8K/6K), Megans(12K/10K), and Stances(8K/6K).

And they all go low, but I'm here to vouch for my Fortune Autos, here I have the rears, they have inches left to go, don't mind my face:



And the fronts look like this:



Here's how the car looks like now:



Do the math, if I have that much left on the coilover...Imagine how much lower you can get with Fortune Autos. (I sounds like a sales rep for FA)

I would definitely recommend Stance or Fortune Auto. The valving on both companies are both great. I daily Fortune Autos and I've tracked Stances on my cousin's car. I got FA's only because you get a deal on Zilvia through Billy lol

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Bushido

i've had part shop max coils for 3 years.

no problems with em. they are a quality product.

however, they are not comfortable. don't listen to anyone that says they arent that stiff.

they are fucking stiff.

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MikeisNissan

post whoring too, but lol who the fuck takes pictures of themselves cheesing infront of their wheel wheels, you look like a goof. "the fronts looks like this" (duh) (and this is my front! CHEESE)

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wh0aitznic0

Your car is a 4x4.

THIS is how low PBM goes.



Ride's not too bad but I have full multilink and collars so that doesn't help in the comfort area.

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1on1

I have pbm coilovers and this is how low I am.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...S/d2442fe4.jpg

I believe my car was all the way down with 1 collar removed when I took this picture. the rears still have a good two inch or something (i forgot). PBM's aren't that stiff compared to my hks hipermax coilovers.

for a comfortable ride, i hear stance are the way to go.

at the time it was pbm for 1150 shipped or stance gr+ pro for 1350 shipped

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Okay heres a noob question. (most likely its been ask before) What would you guys suggest for spring rates go for daily use and track use on a s14?

From what ive been reading for daily driving people say go 8k/6k for track ive seen some suggest 12k/10k. It seems to go back and forth ALOT!

Ive got coils on my 05 Gto and im running 7k/7k and for coilovers it rides smooth but still lets ya know ur on coilovers.

Still havent decided on whos coilovers ill get for my s14. Just intreseted in what info you guys have on spring rates.

1on1

if you plan on daily/track the car, run 12/10 and set the damp on the lowest setting while you daily.

im on pbm, full stiff, and I have no problems with it.however, i think it's annoying when the roads are shitty as fuck though, so I drive and route myself onto the smoothest roads where ever i travel. if not, i just deal with it and the traffic behind me.

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Bushido

part shop max coils on anything but the smoothest pavement + hot coffee = 3rd degree burns on lap

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zooopreme

I was showing a picture of the coilover itself with how much thread left there is on the coilover with 0 preload and 0 droop so that OP can make his own judgment. What's me in the picture go to do with you?

I provided concrete facts and actually pictures to help OP. So let me ask you something, what did you provide to answer OP's question? Nothing at all. So sit down and shut the fuck up, scrub and take your e-thug bullshit somewhere else.

@whoaitznico, as I stated on my reply,

...with the other pictures that I provided of the coilovers without the wheels I was telling OP to see how much more lower the car can get so even if my car is 4x4-ing, he could figure that much.

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memphis180sx

i have stance gr+ coils and i love em and they go as low as youll ever need to be,also if you can get a hold of some dmax coils there great to ive riden on a few sets and there comfy and go low

slomar91

I had apexi N1's for over a year daily driven and tracked. They went lower then you could ever need them too, had proper damping and you could actually notice the difference between clicks. I liked them alot.

nathanong87

i say the same thing in all these threads anyways. lol

i vote stance on the simple fact that the TF guys are nice, and often carry replacement parts IN stock.

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drift freaq

And the above statement shows you know absolutely nothing about proper shock valving. If you think the valving is great, go look at at some graph plots for them.

Fortune Auto may have something because they are digressive somewhat but Stance are not digressive and not that great.

Koni,Bilstein,KW,Ohlins, Moton, Penske , Aragosta those are companies that have great valving neither Stance or Fortune Auto fall into that catagory.

Ok, entry level stuff is where Stance and Fortune Auto fall. Not great.

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wh0aitznic0

You sound mad.

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mattack69

your shop IS still open, hmmrmm

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zooopreme

...so they aren't great coilovers out of the three companies OP asked about? This statement indicates that you do not know how to answer the question that has been handed to you with a straight answer.

I understand that my statement was a bit subjective but look at OP's question, he wasn't asking for a coilover setup like Koni's, KW, Onlins, Penske, etc. He was asking about three entry level companies.

Put it into perspective. Most of us drive on these entry level coilovers for the ride height and not so much great suspension valving on a daily driver. And I doubt that many people would spend more than 50K on parts for a 240 JUST to daily it.

You all forget the attention to the details of the question and the attention to perspective here. OP was asking about 3 brands. You named 7 companies that were neither of the 3.

But I'm sorry, this is Zilvia. Most of you are really instigating out of boredom.

If you read thoroughly through my replies along with the others who answered OP's question with insightful info, there should be no excuse for wanting to instigate a debate/argument.

And no, I'm not mad. The clutter of stupid replies that do not pertain to OP's question is just ridiculous here.

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95KA-Turbo

I'm on Fortunes, I had to trim my front bracket a little to get this low - but thats because I'm running 9K springs which are 8" tall! If you opted for the swift spring option, which will make it ride and perform better, you can get some 6" front springs and tuck 17s no problem - I am running 17s.





w/o sides



My friend has a 350Z on KW Variant 3 coilovers, my fortunes feel very similar in terms of ride quality on the street. Mine feel slightly more rigid, but its not a huge difference.


Bottom line:
1- You wont find a coilover in this price range that rides this good (digressive valving)
2- You can get them revalved and serviced in the US
3- With swift springs you can touch your frame to the ground.

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Corbic

Which ever color and logo you like best.

Do you feel cooler saying PBM... kinda like PBR...

Do you wanna be Hella Flush with Mad-Stance yo?

Or are you baller with some Fortune Autos? Cause they sound expensive and Japanese?

chiboy002

why is this thread still alive?

Stance has better valving from what i've been told, springs aren't stiff (6k/8k)

PBM go lower easier, but have stiffer coils (8k/10k) and are entry-level

Fortunes get good discount and go low


YOU CAN MAKE ANY FUCKING COILOVER LOW... jesus

Someone post some test results and that picture of the japanese magazine doing a comparison with pbm coming out as best

let this thread die

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Corbic

Reason this goes on is because it's all hearsay.


Some dood on a forum I'm kissing ass too to look cool says he knows some dood that says they are made by the same people.

This one guy has megans which he says suck and i have ksport that i daily but I road in my budies car with godspeeds and it rode as nice as mine but this other guy posted a picture of some car with stances that are lower but everyone on zilvia says PBMs are the shit but guys at SCCA events laugh and say Koni are the best but those are expensive... so are ISIS the same cause they are all made in teh same Chinese plant as Apexi and Apexi has lots of ads in my import super tuner street magazine and therefore as super awesome but the drift king has green seatbelts and coilovers... to teins are cool, but my friends older brother had them and says they suck and his megans are better... but...





Noobs wanting slammed cars should just admit it, buy whatever slams the most and move on. They will never know the difference as they will not be changing out their coils they just spent 6 months saving for or had mommy buy on ebay in the next 3 years; nor will they ever have their car corner balanced.

!!chuy!!

i have pbm coilovers and if u wanna slam ur car thats the way to go . they put my other teins to shame ,they handle like heaven and they go super low! but as a daily i would recoment the 8k 6k setup instead of the 10k 8k . i currently run the 10k 8k springs and planing on switching to the softer setup , other than that i love them!!!
my rear is fully lifted and im almost tucking on 15's , if i slam them im sure thell be around the lug nutts slamed . thats low....!!!!!!

codyace

I'm not your bro. Bro.


You are a ricer, that's the bottom line. Sorry, just because you are young and broke is NO excuse to buy half assed products...sure lengtening that 'signature mod list' may impress your other WalMart parking lot friends, but it doesn't even begin to make someone who knows what is what.

As I (and I thought plainly said) mentioned, I could care less if you're content with a cheap ass coilover. Sweet/ASwesome/Congrats...maybe I should stroke your ego to make you believe your purchase was good? Nah, that's unfair to you, as it bascially makes me 'approve' of the nonsense.

Ricer is a owner who's sole focus is to look cool, and fit in. Super low, neon lights, fart cans...same mission, different result. No offense but your comments pretty much spell out that you could 'care less' about perfomrnace, you want low (and slow), and to have a 'better brand' in your mod list. Barf.

I'm all about helping or explaining things on here, but you can't fix stupid. I don't have to know 'you' to realize 'that'.

LOOOOOOOOL LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL This is classic.

It's the truth though. I'm not one to give 2 shits about peole buying junk. Awesome. Doesn't effect me. I've used most of the junk, and now have Konis...trust me, I KNOW what rides best. I have true spring rate, real deal rebound/compression adjustment, and track my car. I hate parking lots too (plus no body there likes my non slammed, squeaky track brake pad, quiet exhaust, track car). They'd rather me role in scrapping the bumper, backfiring through a side exit, with a pink rollcage.

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This is my car on Fortune Auto's all the way down, with collars and non flipped brackets.



Tires are 195/55/15 in the front and 195/60/15 rear. 10/8kg spring rate.

With flipped brackets and collars I've got 1.5-2 inches more in the front, rear has a good 3 inches at least before I've even got to pull collars.

From the middle of the wheel to the fender is 13 inches, A friend has a car on 215/45/17, no wheel gap, fender pretty much even with the tire, and middle of the wheel measurement to fender is almost exactly 12 inches. Factoring in approximately how much lower I can go by flipping the bracket and pulling collars, You're looking at tucking about half of a 215/45/17 tire. Not really all that low considering that is ALL you can do, short of getting shorter springs.