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bamaboy · 04-05-2008, 10:24 AM

like I said, for a team of engineers to totally redesign something, change the base materials used to make the engine, transmission, rear ends, chassis, etc, so that it is reliable in a race condition I would think a quarter million would be justified. Any one of us could build a faster car using a parts catalogue and some torque qrenches, but would we be able to go several hundred miles at a time and only need fuel and tires...probably not.

eastcoastS14 · 04-05-2008, 12:18 PM

hahaha wopps lol I thought the price said 28k lol....I was like wtf is everyone bitching about thats cheap as hell for that hahaha

*revat619* · 04-06-2008, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bamaboy

like I said, for a team of engineers to totally redesign something, change the base materials used to make the engine, transmission, rear ends, chassis, etc, so that it is reliable in a race condition I would think a quarter million would be justified. Any one of us could build a faster car using a parts catalogue and some torque qrenches, but would we be able to go several hundred miles at a time and only need fuel and tires...probably not.

i'll agree to disagree with you.

nevaland9 · 04-07-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bamaboy

a base model Z starts at over $26k

no sir, have you checked your nissanusa.com recently? theyre getting wethinkwerehighendcars syndrome. a base Z is gona run u 30k+ otd... thats for a z with no diff...id rather buy a used e46 m3.

nevaland9 · 04-07-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by revat619

i'll agree to disagree with you.

race motors arnt built to last forever either...they actually come with what you could call a expiration date?...basically they're built to be ran for a certain amount of hours and thats it. remember its just metal, no matter what you do to it if yove got metal on metal at 10,000rpms for 10 hours its going to wear and warp.

you could build something to COMPETE with this car, but in terms of you duplicating that car in your garage..never.
If anyone payed attention to the Canadian touring car (or is on ziptied) Sasha Anis tore his class a new anus(lol) with his prepd S14 running a 2871r AEM and some good aero. The cars in his class were probably built to a very similar standard to that Z.

2,1 · 04-07-2008, 11:53 PM

for that much money your outta of your mind, I could build a car from the ground up with better power to weight ratio for cheaper then that, thats for people with way to much money that wont even race the damned thing. Its still nice tho just outta your mind on the price 285thousand dollars...): I would rather buy 2 audi r8's one black on red lol

TheWolf · 04-08-2008, 08:10 AM

No one here that's complaining about the price has built a race car before. 250k isn't cheap but it is when it comes to a factory race car. A porsche Cup car is 320k. that comes with some minor spares packages and I assume this car will come with some spares as well. you're not paying for a "stripped" 350z with a stroked street car engine. Your paying for a built, completed and tuned race car that has had all the bugs worked out of it. Requires zero development. And has factory support and development. See like next year they'll have what they call a update package. That will included revised aero, new suspension etc that will make the car faster than before. You couldn't develop a car to that potential for 250k in a short time frame with paid crew, extensive datalogging, track time, etc.

See people buy that expensive porsche because if they attend a grand american road race event. There's a porsche trailer there handing out a suggested setup. Suggested tire pressure and shock settings. then if they have an off track excursion and break a suspension arm that they don't have a spare of. They can goto the porsche trailer and buy it. Keep racing that weekend instead of packing it in. Your not only buying a car but your buying support.

Gnnr · 04-08-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWolf

A porsche Cup car is 320k.

Where'd you find that number? I couldn't find any listed price for the Porsche cup cars on any site.

Anyways, for more comparison a Ferrari F430 Challenge (also a race ready car) is $227,000.

TheWolf · 04-08-2008, 01:10 PM

friend used to do work with alex job when they ran 911's. Said by the time you got the datalogging kit.. and spare bodywork/wings that would be required.. spare parts.. spindles, arms, lights etc.. the price tipped the scales at 320k for a ready to run the season car, spares and all.. update packages were in the neighborhood of 20k and up.. I would imagine a CF porsche made nose for a 911 isn't cheap. I'm sure you could get the car down to under 250k if you just bought the car.. that isn't going to get you far in a season though. Porsche so far though have the best game though. You can hand them 300k and get a car that will qualify well and race the whole 24 hours of daytona with little to do but a yawn. Out of the box. few manufacturers can say that. Sure things break but out of the box they are rock solid reliable.

Never underestimate the power and worth of that factory trailer.

*revat619* · 04-08-2008, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWolf

friend used to do work with alex job when they ran 911's. Said by the time you got the datalogging kit.. and spare bodywork/wings that would be required.. spare parts.. spindles, arms, lights etc.. the price tipped the scales at 320k for a ready to run the season car, spares and all.. update packages were in the neighborhood of 20k and up.. I would imagine a CF porsche made nose for a 911 isn't cheap. I'm sure you could get the car down to under 250k if you just bought the car.. that isn't going to get you far in a season though. Porsche so far though have the best game though. You can hand them 300k and get a car that will qualify well and race the whole 24 hours of daytona with little to do but a yawn. Out of the box. few manufacturers can say that. Sure things break but out of the box they are rock solid reliable.

Never underestimate the power and worth of that factory trailer.

Exactly my point. You're getting a car WITH spare parts and all and its a 320K. AND its a fucking Porsche.

They're asking $285K (not including mark ups and what not) for a just the car that really isnt THAT impressive to begin with. Thats only 35k away from the Porsche. In the grand scheme of things thats really not that much money. Like i said in my first post, if you've got money like this, you're not gonna buy the 350z.

Hell, if the Ferrari is $227K, you're for damn sure not buying a $285K dollar NISSAN 350z. Fuck THAT.

infinitexsound · 04-25-2008, 04:52 AM

scca gt crs dont even cost that much, wc touring cars go for roughly 75k with spares thats what some older bmw 330 went for and hp was 310, unrestricted...

id rather get a used porsche gt2 or gt3... from flying lizard or trg

MikeisNissan · 04-25-2008, 09:05 PM

I dont understand how this is more expensive than the Z-Tune R34 .. O well sick car non the less.

muddafakka · 04-25-2008, 09:38 PM

Nissan be smokin' the stickiest of the icky.

So many other alternatives out there.

DOOK · 04-26-2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnnr

Anyways, for more comparison a Ferrari F430 Challenge (also a race ready car) is $227,000.

winner... I'll compete with my F430 and use the extra change to buy myself a 60k cushy daily driver...

**ThatGuy** · 04-26-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeisNissan

I dont understand how this is more expensive than the Z-Tune R34 .. O well sick car non the less.

I-N-F-L-A-T-I-O-N

*TougeLabs* · 04-26-2008, 01:29 PM

for you guys wanting to pick up a gt cup car check out racingjunk.com
and get me one too...

Maximamike · 04-27-2008, 12:59 AM

We have the 2006 M3 GTR, 2007 GTO-R(triple crown champ) and the 2008 GT3 Cup car at my work and they were all well over $250k used. They come with spares and shit but its just extra body work, wheels and a few other things. That 350z is well developed but if you think that you can roll that shit out of the trailer and win/place a 24 hour races with it, without any development time your fooling yourself.

04-08-2008, 08:10 AM	#37
TheWolf Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange Park, FL (Jax) Posts: 1,468 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No one here that's complaining about the price has built a race car before. 250k isn't cheap but it is when it comes to a factory race car. A porsche Cup car is 320k. that comes with some minor spares packages and I assume this car will come with some spares as well. you're not paying for a "stripped" 350z with a stroked street car engine. Your paying for a built, completed and tuned race car that has had all the bugs worked out of it. Requires zero development. And has factory support and development. See like next year they'll have what they call a update package. That will included revised aero, new suspension etc that will make the car faster than before. You couldn't develop a car to that potential for 250k in a short time frame with paid crew, extensive datalogging, track time, etc. See people buy that expensive porsche because if they attend a grand american road race event. There's a porsche trailer there handing out a suggested setup. Suggested tire pressure and shock settings. then if they have an off track excursion and break a suspension arm that they don't have a spare of. They can goto the porsche trailer and buy it. Keep racing that weekend instead of packing it in. Your not only buying a car but your buying support. __________________ Eye on the Prize

04-08-2008, 01:10 PM	#39
TheWolf Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange Park, FL (Jax) Posts: 1,468 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	friend used to do work with alex job when they ran 911's. Said by the time you got the datalogging kit.. and spare bodywork/wings that would be required.. spare parts.. spindles, arms, lights etc.. the price tipped the scales at 320k for a ready to run the season car, spares and all.. update packages were in the neighborhood of 20k and up.. I would imagine a CF porsche made nose for a 911 isn't cheap. I'm sure you could get the car down to under 250k if you just bought the car.. that isn't going to get you far in a season though. Porsche so far though have the best game though. You can hand them 300k and get a car that will qualify well and race the whole 24 hours of daytona with little to do but a yawn. Out of the box. few manufacturers can say that. Sure things break but out of the box they are rock solid reliable. Never underestimate the power and worth of that factory trailer. __________________ Eye on the Prize

04-25-2008, 04:52 AM	#41
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 39 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	scca gt crs dont even cost that much, wc touring cars go for roughly 75k with spares thats what some older bmw 330 went for and hp was 310, unrestricted... id rather get a used porsche gt2 or gt3... from flying lizard or trg __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

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MikeisNissan Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Earth, Section 301 Posts: 3,730 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I dont understand how this is more expensive than the Z-Tune R34 .. O well sick car non the less. __________________ 因果関係の流れ

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04-05-2008, 12:18 PM	#32
eastcoastS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the land of snow potholes and no tracks Posts: 3,984 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hahaha wopps lol I thought the price said 28k lol....I was like wtf is everyone bitching about thats cheap as hell for that hahaha

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2,1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida Age: 34 Posts: 59 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	for that much money your outta of your mind, I could build a car from the ground up with better power to weight ratio for cheaper then that, thats for people with way to much money that wont even race the damned thing. Its still nice tho just outta your mind on the price 285thousand dollars...): I would rather buy 2 audi r8's one black on red lol

04-25-2008, 09:38 PM	#43
muddafakka Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fugitive on the run Posts: 1,087 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nissan be smokin' the stickiest of the icky. So many other alternatives out there.

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TougeLabs Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 1,570 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	for you guys wanting to pick up a gt cup car check out racingjunk.com and get me one too...

04-27-2008, 12:59 AM	#47
Maximamike Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 369 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	We have the 2006 M3 GTR, 2007 GTO-R(triple crown champ) and the 2008 GT3 Cup car at my work and they were all well over $250k used. They come with spares and shit but its just extra body work, wheels and a few other things. That 350z is well developed but if you think that you can roll that shit out of the trailer and win/place a 24 hour races with it, without any development time your fooling yourself.