Bill Roberts

Bush is the only way to go. A vote for Kerry is a vote for communism.

Down with Kerry.

elevator

Yeah...and YOU are a REAL genius! How do you think this "salt shaker" got through Harvard? Don't be a dumb ass.

elevator

Amen brother!

RJF

Remember the sailors that were killed on the USS Cole four years ago today.


FOUR YEARS AGO TODAY, a Navy destroyer was making a brief port call in Aden for the purpose of taking on fuel. As was common practice during such evolutions, a small barge pulled alongside to collect garbage.

Seconds later, the barge exploded. It ripped a 40-foot hole in the side of the USS Cole, flooding two engine compartments and nearly sending the ship to the bottom of the harbor. Seventeen sailors were killed, and 37 more were wounded.

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elevator

I find it odd that when our president takes steps to prevent that kind of crap he gets hell...and they complain that he did nothing PRIOR to 9/11. Hell he was only president for 8 months PRIOR to 9/11. That bastard, Bill Clinton had 8 years to do something and he didn't. Where is the freaking logic??

RJF

Be Healed.....



Edwards Stem Cell Vision: 'We will stop juvenile diabetes, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and other debilitating diseases... When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going get up out of that wheelchair and walk again.'


Kerry can supposedly perform miracles now...........

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MakotoS13

yeah, i can't tell you how many salt shakers the government lets pilot 30 million dollar aircraft.


effing BRILLIANT.

oh oh oh, lets not forget the ivy league college stuff...

SilviaNinja240

Bush bought his way into that school, any retard with money can do that.

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citizen

the government does lots of stupid shit, whats your point?

btw, his job is to uphold the constitution, not disregard it (war in iraq and patriot act anyone?)

DriftMonkey

have u personally ben affected byt the patriot act personally .... i dont think so...it was meant to provide more fluent transition of information between departments of the government and make it easier to to get warants for terrorists. if ur not a terrorist then dont worry cuz it wont be affecting u, the liberal would like u to beleive that i will but it just assures that terrorists will be caught earlier. and the war in iraq has a purpose...saddam was a threat and we took care of him and i havent seen bin laden lately...u kno hes in hole somewhere very unhappy. Bush IS ABLE to fly a plane ...can u???? it takes a little something to be able to fly a plane.... can any retard fly a plane??????????? NO

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elevator

THAT is bullshit!

elevator

That was a dumb-ass comment. The Patriot Act is for YOUR benefit as well as every other American's. If one is doing right...one will NOT be effected adversely. If you are a Islamic Jihadist, then sorry, asshole, you have a problem. Most of us have little to worry about. Those of us who have things to worry about....I could care less about your sorry asses. Move to Iraq or Afghanistan and we will be gladd to bomb your asses to oblivion!

elevator

I LOVE that one!!!!

RJF

So, Kerry must be as dumb as pepper-mill, since he graduated from the same school?

Just trying to be fair and balanced... salt shaker/pepper-mill

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Phlip

DIE THREAD DIE!!!

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RJF

This is why the Patriot Act exists...to try and find these bastards before they do something like the school incident in Beslan, Russia.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...1643-5028r.htm

Or maybe you think they're just here as part of some tour group.

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Also, why can't anyone cite any specific problems and areas of the Patriot Act that are supposedly bad. All I ever hear is that "The Patriot Act is evil". Kerry said (paraphrasing): "I agree with the Patriot Act, just not how John Ashcroft has implemented it."

Well give us details or stop using the DNC talking points and trying to scare people.

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RJF

Seems someone in the Kerry campaign must be in the salt-shaker catagory.



Couldn't get name spelled correct and sign placement says it all.

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Phlip

^ Shitty photochop, let it die please. The election is 3 weeks away, 2005 another 8 following that, we will all know how bad we fucked up, regardless of who we vote for, at that time.

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tastyratz

damn I didnt think the salt shaker comment would really stick like that lol. and yea it is true when your daddy was president before and your just as rich then obviously its easy to buy your way through it. anyone remember billy madison? R-O-K and yes thats a relevant comparison. bush can barely make a complete sentence i have no faith in his competancy as a human nevermind a president. yea hes got balls and he went in and blew shit up but any hick can run around hitting people with a bat it doesnt take a large amount of brains... only balls. i didnt like him before 9/11 and i still dont like him whats it take to take down the terrorist leaders from afar? military... bombs ... high tech weaponry of the sorts.... whats it take to almost take down an american president? A PRETZEL. however i mean we are all allowed our own opinion on things and by no way do I go all out kerry, i wouldnt vote for him... I just think bush is the greater of 2 evils... IMHO. i do agree though maybe we should let this thread die and just do what we do because political threads can REALLY get messy fast...

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SilviaNinja240

Believe it or not, some people are smart that go to that school.
You are using the "since he's got a SR20, he must be a drifter" debate technique

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SilviaNinja240

Beslan is an entire different situtation than what we're faced with. The Russian government already has "patriot"-like acts in place.
I don't see how a Big Brother type system would fit America, last time I checked they called this place "the home of the free" not the home of the watched

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DriftMonkey

sorry buddy but u've been being monitored since before the patriot act in the 1980's.....u like to think u werent but u were

gotta love leno

The Secret Service has announced it is doubling its protection for John Kerry. You can understand why — with two positions on every issue, he has twice as many people mad at him.
- Jay Leno

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sykikchimp

this thread is a perfect example of how modern republican ideals are based on pessimism, and the fear of change, and the unknown. It is the basis for all their arguments. Fear is likely the greatest motivator of action. They are afraid that somehow giving Gays the right to marriage will affect them, or that opening our arms to countries will show our weaknesses, etc. The entire party focuses on making this fear very apparent in our everyday lives. Every attack they produce on Kerry is ALWAYS a twisting of the truth in an effort to scare you into voting for their candidate.

Bill, sorry to pick on you but your comment about "a vote for kerry is a vote for communism" is a perfect example of this close minded emotionally driven scare tactic. And pretty much anything that RJF posts.

Democratic ideals are more about progressive change, responisibility and honesty. Optimism that things can and will get better if we're willing to accept responsibility for our past mistakes. I'm not saying that this how any of you are, but many of your posts exemplify this.

This fear drives us away from everyone and everything. Even our communities are no longer the interactive arena's they once were. I for one have no discernable relationship with my neighbors. Kids don't play outside anymore. Because of this seperation in our communities crime is higher, high school drop out rates are rising, etc.. Day to day personal interactions have become more and more coarse. Our communities are very much a microcosum of our govt., and our place in society. We have cut ties with country after country, and even today we are continually losing the trust of the entire world. There was a time when our country was very respected in the world, countless countries would come to our aid at only a suggestion of the need for help. And Terrorism was not even a part of our vocabulary.

Gaining the respect, and admiration of the world is something that will help thwart terrorism. Do you think if france's intelligence today hears about a plan to attack a US location, that they will share that info? I didn't think so.

Bush doesn't recognize this. His view is that liberty, and democracy throughout the world is the only way. Well news flash.. People are different. Different policies and programs work for different cultures. It is not our place to up root the ways of others, and force them to become our friends. We are the Bully of the world at the moment. We tell ourselves.. We have friends! Problem is our friends are not our friends because of a healthy give and take relationship. It's because we pay them to be our friends.

Ignoring the reality that we are making MORE enemies than we had before is simply ignoring growing dangers, and expecting them to go away. We are "at war with terrorists".. well, I don't believe you can fight a war against ideals. And thats what this is. It's a war on other people ideals. The muslims have been doing it for 100's of years. There is NO end.

In any good relationship there is communication, compromise, and compassion. Forcing other countries to become democratic nations is none of the above, and literaly spits in the face of 100's of years of a cultures growth and experience. Now I'm not saying that Saddam's regime was better left alone, but I don't think it was our place to free those people. I think it was there place to free themselves. If you hate it so much, leave or begin a rebellion. That's what we did. If they ASKED for help, then yes, we should have stepped in.

I think removing Saddam from power was something we had to do, because we brought it on ourselves through past political policy errors.

Please understand this is not an attack. Meerly a description of the division between ideals, using my own thoughts as an example. We are all allowed to have our own thoughts and ideals without being "sheep" right?

bmarley5780

Kerry = terrorism

SilviaNinja240

Your argument = stupid

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KA24DESOneThree

Read up on what the Patriot Act can and cannot do: http://www.factcheck.org/article259.html

How about Kerry's 24% attendance at the Intelligence Commitee Hearings? http://www.factcheck.org/article241.html

Please go to www.factcheck.org and read through the archives. It'll show you who's wrong on both sides.

RedlineRacer

The republicans are fearful. And They definately don't want gay marriage because they are afraid it may affect them. They are against gay marriages because it is WRONG! Republicans stand behind their morals and beliefs and democrats for the most part don't have either of those. And a vote for kerry is a vote for communism. All the democrats want is a government program for everything. They don't want you taking a shit without their knowing. What does that sound like??? COMMUNISM!

MakotoS13

emotionally driven?
kerry is the one beggin for the minority vote with bleeding heart generic answers. that sap wouldn't know originality if it slapped his momma wtih a fifty pound fish.

SilviaNinja240

You obviously don't know much about the world works. If you listened to the debates Kerry stated again and again, he's not going to induce government programs that forces people to do things they don't want. I think people who are homophobic are hilarious, out of all the things to be scared of I'd be more worried about WMDs than two dudes or chicks

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