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Beejis60 · 06-23-2011, 04:17 PM

For cutting, did you guys cut all the way down to the frame rail and weld your new sheet directly to the rail? I think I saw that on a few builds, but I just wanna confirm. I have some rust a few inches above my frame rail so will be so this will be a dual-purpose tubbing.

Willyd6869 · 06-23-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Staticevo

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almost done, still have do a couple things. I'll take better pics when its finished

What front bumper is this?

Jspec603 · 06-23-2011, 04:38 PM

On ours, we cut down to the pinch weld where the inner and outer sections meet. We then used a hole punch every inch or so on the tub to allow for strength when welding. Overlap the two sections and fill. You basically fill in each hole with weld, creating a stronger bond than a seam/stitch style weld.

s14unimog · 06-24-2011, 11:05 AM

I would STRONGLY suggest leaving the seam down there in tack. The only reason that "rail" has any strength is due to the seam. Get you a spot weld drill bit and remove the panel as one piece.

mine was already pretty hacked up so I had to separate it into two pieces but you get the idea. I'm still planning to remove more material from the shock tower but that can wait until I'm welding in the tubs.

Beejis60 · 06-24-2011, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jspec603

On ours, we cut down to the pinch weld where the inner and outer sections meet. We then used a hole punch every inch or so on the tub to allow for strength when welding. Overlap the two sections and fill. You basically fill in each hole with weld, creating a stronger bond than a seam/stitch style weld.

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14unimog

I would STRONGLY suggest leaving the seam down there in tack. The only reason that "rail" has any strength is due to the seam. Get you a spot weld drill bit and remove the panel as one piece.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubs-06-23-11016.jpg[IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/s14unimog/Tubs-06-23-11015.jpg[IMG]

mine was already pretty hacked up so I had to separate it into two pieces but you get the idea. I'm still planning to remove more material from the shock tower but that can wait until I'm welding in the tubs.

Ya, I figured you would leave the entire seam and it made no sense to me why it looked like some of them were cut all the way to the frame rail.
And I have a few spot weld drill bits lying around.....

Thanks for the help guys

NismoPlsr · 06-24-2011, 02:48 PM

Finished fabbing. I just need to do some grinding, primering, seam-sealing, undercoating, and painting.

kriss · 06-24-2011, 05:04 PM

thats realy neat well done dude

JaredP · 06-24-2011, 09:45 PM

^^ thats exactly what im lookin to do man, looks dope

s14unimog · 06-26-2011, 09:49 PM

^^ Fantastic job! Exactly what I'm after. I'll post my results in the next day or so. Here's a quick shot of the factory fenders just "un-installed"

nismo racer · 06-26-2011, 10:39 PM

heres mine

K_style · 06-27-2011, 12:05 AM

Man... I need to get schooling on weldings...

envy you all !!!

ezza · 06-27-2011, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoPlsr

Finished fabbing. I just need to do some grinding, primering, seam-sealing, undercoating, and painting.

Beautifully done!

can i just ask what thickness metal i should be using for this (i have trailor fenders on the way already)

also where are people mounting there PAS resevoir's?

Beejis60 · 06-27-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NismoPlsr

Finished fabbing. I just need to do some grinding, primering, seam-sealing, undercoating, and painting.

[IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/25ebd037.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/9ea1d39f.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/83a73f5b.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k145/NismoPlsr/211ca1ae.jpg[IMG]

I love how your tubs recess away from the frame rail. Gorgeous. I assume you cut it like that to make it recess, no? Care to state which manufacturer's trailer fenders you used?

NismoPlsr · 06-28-2011, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezza

Beautifully done!

can i just ask what thickness metal i should be using for this (i have trailer fenders on the way already)

My trailer fender was 16g but i used 22g for all the sheet because that's all Tractor Supply had in big enough pieces and i was too lazy to go to the metal supply place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beejis60

I love how your tubs recess away from the frame rail. Gorgeous. I assume you cut it like that to make it recess, no? Care to state which manufacturer's trailer fenders you used?

I made the edge of the fender parallel with the frame rail but about 1.5" more outboard. I used cardboard to make a pattern the shape of the shock tower in the location i wanted to the fender and trimmed that until it fit perfect then transferred the shape to the fender.

The fender I used.
16-Gauge Steel, Single-Axle Trailer Fender, 10-3/4" Wide - 14" to 15" Tires Redline Trailer Fenders F1075X32-1R

ezza · 07-09-2011, 06:01 PM

copied from my build thread

where im at

Quote:

no turning back now :affraid:

My tyres were scrubbing on the inner arch obviously hence the tubbing but something harder to solve was that the tyre was catching the underside of the wing 'truss'

So i supported the front of the car to stop any 'sag' while i started modifying it.
I cut in hard:

folded it back so i could get to the back of it and cut it off.
Cut to size a peice of 1.5m, tacked one end then bent to follow the curve and tacked in place:

Then once it was secure i welded it in, thoroughly, seeing as its structural. Dont mind the dog shit welds, i was upside down looking up with the sky in the background which meant i could see fark ALL

from the side:

New clearance, im well happy with that:

Anyway, back to the tubs:
The general idea:

I cut along the length of the arch to get rid of the curve back inwards towards the tire, il weld a strip in its place for maximum room:

Put the pipe on to see how much room i could claim before fouling the pipes, plenty:

After teaking and trimming before i knew it it was 9:15, i couldnt carry on grinding so just made some rough templates for me to work with tomorrow:

More tomorrow

NismoPlsr · 07-10-2011, 08:13 AM

Primered and seam sealed the fender well side.

3M undercoated.

moschini · 07-10-2011, 10:00 AM

Because of the inspiration on this thread, Im going to be tubbin' my 240. . . Front & Rear

ezza · 07-10-2011, 06:03 PM

what me and a friend got done today:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezza

I should have been taking more pics during the process but we were too busy.
Il let the pics do the talking:

Johny5 · 07-11-2011, 12:12 AM

not finished yet but an idea

godrifttoday · 07-11-2011, 01:14 AM

^
win!

Msglength

XFuzionX · 07-11-2011, 01:54 AM

Good job everyone looks good, I need to get around to doing this on my s14 haha

Johny5 · 07-11-2011, 11:22 PM

finally finished...

all done with just 1 of these...

Shipshape Steel Tandem Fender with Teardrop — 72in. Long | Trailer Fenders | Northern Tool + Equipment

and 4 1'x2' sheets of 22 gauge from home depot. if your car is oem core support and has most of the sheet metal up front you can probably get by with just 2 sheets

ezza · 07-15-2011, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezza

This is how i left it tonight:

Il get the thread up to speed tomorrow

im happy, my first ever thing i fabricated and welded on my own

JaredP · 07-15-2011, 04:10 PM

ezza your tubs are sick man, cant wait to get mine done

NismoPlsr · 07-18-2011, 03:45 PM

Engine bay all painted and black seam sealer on the stitch welds.

nismo racer · 07-18-2011, 07:39 PM

one more with the motor in the bay.

s14unimog · 07-23-2011, 09:32 AM

Finally finished mine! Gotta get ready to paint now...

S13.75DET · 07-23-2011, 10:18 AM

i wish i used trailer fenders, i made mine by hand using 20g scrap metal that i had laying around.
I made mine because of the hack job done to the car for IC piping access, more clearance, it was easier to fit my s14 rad support, and it looks way cooler.
I rivited them first because i was too impatient to wait for my welder to show up. but then i (practiced) welded and seam sealed with Dow 418 Primerless Urethane.

Om1kron · 07-23-2011, 10:35 AM

explain what you have done and why?

s14unimog · 07-23-2011, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

explain what you have done and why?

Not my choice of design but it seems pretty clear to me why...

Quote:

Originally Posted by S13.75DET

I made mine because of the hack job done to the car for IC piping access, more clearance, it was easier to fit my s14 rad support, and it looks way cooler.

06-24-2011, 11:05 AM	#124
s14unimog Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In a place, near a river, over a lake Age: 34 Posts: 2,415 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: s14unimog Feedback Score: 22 reviews	I would STRONGLY suggest leaving the seam down there in tack. The only reason that "rail" has any strength is due to the seam. Get you a spot weld drill bit and remove the panel as one piece. mine was already pretty hacked up so I had to separate it into two pieces but you get the idea. I'm still planning to remove more material from the shock tower but that can wait until I'm welding in the tubs. __________________ Fuking ginger bread man stole my wallet... SHIFTlock_slide to side d3m3rs0n: if i have a baby im naming it Brandons Fault Emerson Last edited by s14unimog; 06-26-2011 at 09:48 PM..*

06-24-2011, 02:48 PM	#126
NismoPlsr Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: CT Age: 37 Posts: 689 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Finished fabbing. I just need to do some grinding, primering, seam-sealing, undercoating, and painting. __________________ S12 \|\| KN13 \|\| S13 \|\| B16

06-26-2011, 09:49 PM	#129
s14unimog Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In a place, near a river, over a lake Age: 34 Posts: 2,415 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: s14unimog Feedback Score: 22 reviews	^^ Fantastic job! Exactly what I'm after. I'll post my results in the next day or so. Here's a quick shot of the factory fenders just "un-installed" __________________ Fuking ginger bread man stole my wallet... SHIFT*lock_slide to side d3m3rs0n: if i have a baby im naming it Brandons Fault Emerson

06-26-2011, 10:39 PM	#130
nismo racer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the 805! Posts: 1,057 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	heres mine __________________ PEGASUS

07-10-2011, 08:13 AM	#136
NismoPlsr Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: CT Age: 37 Posts: 689 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Primered and seam sealed the fender well side. 3M undercoated. __________________ S12 \|\| KN13 \|\| S13 \|\| B16

06-23-2011, 04:17 PM	#121
Beejis60 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in a house Posts: 564 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	For cutting, did you guys cut all the way down to the frame rail and weld your new sheet directly to the rail? I think I saw that on a few builds, but I just wanna confirm. I have some rust a few inches above my frame rail so will be so this will be a dual-purpose tubbing.

06-23-2011, 04:38 PM	#123
Jspec603 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester NH Age: 42 Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	On ours, we cut down to the pinch weld where the inner and outer sections meet. We then used a hole punch every inch or so on the tub to allow for strength when welding. Overlap the two sections and fill. You basically fill in each hole with weld, creating a stronger bond than a seam/stitch style weld.

06-24-2011, 05:04 PM	#127
kriss Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Age: 33 Posts: 120 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats realy neat well done dude

06-24-2011, 09:45 PM	#128
JaredP Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Age: 31 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	^^ thats exactly what im lookin to do man, looks dope

06-27-2011, 12:05 AM	#131
K_style Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 7,666 Trader Rating: (63) Rides Gallery: K_style Feedback Score: 63 reviews	Man... I need to get schooling on weldings... envy you all !!!

07-10-2011, 10:00 AM	#137
moschini Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Massachusetts Age: 35 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Because of the inspiration on this thread, Im going to be tubbin' my 240. . . Front & Rear

07-11-2011, 12:12 AM	#139
Johny5 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas, Tx Age: 36 Posts: 3,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	not finished yet but an idea __________________ www.stewartleask.com

07-11-2011, 01:14 AM	#140
godrifttoday Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 37 Posts: 3,120 Trader Rating: (82) Feedback Score: 82 reviews	^ win! Msglength __________________ NEED Bolt kits for your car?

07-11-2011, 01:54 AM	#141
XFuzionX Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bothell Posts: 228 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Good job everyone looks good, I need to get around to doing this on my s14 haha __________________ http://st4tus.blogspot.com/ http://waytooclasssy.tumblr.com/ Looking for an s14 BN kit prefer real but still will buy if its not also looking for 18" 19" advan model 5, ssr agle, minevras, kranze lxz

07-11-2011, 11:22 PM	#142
Johny5 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas, Tx Age: 36 Posts: 3,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	finally finished... all done with just 1 of these... Shipshape Steel Tandem Fender with Teardrop — 72in. Long \| Trailer Fenders \| Northern Tool + Equipment and 4 1'x2' sheets of 22 gauge from home depot. if your car is oem core support and has most of the sheet metal up front you can probably get by with just 2 sheets __________________ www.stewartleask.com

07-15-2011, 04:10 PM	#144
JaredP Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Age: 31 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	ezza your tubs are sick man, cant wait to get mine done

07-18-2011, 03:45 PM	#145
NismoPlsr Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: CT Age: 37 Posts: 689 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Engine bay all painted and black seam sealer on the stitch welds. __________________ S12 \|\| KN13 \|\| S13 \|\| B16

07-18-2011, 07:39 PM	#146
nismo racer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the 805! Posts: 1,057 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	one more with the motor in the bay. __________________ PEGASUS

07-23-2011, 09:32 AM	#147
s14unimog Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In a place, near a river, over a lake Age: 34 Posts: 2,415 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: s14unimog Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Finally finished mine! Gotta get ready to paint now... __________________ Fuking ginger bread man stole my wallet... SHIFT*lock_slide to side d3m3rs0n: if i have a baby im naming it Brandons Fault Emerson

07-23-2011, 10:18 AM	#148
S13.75DET Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Snowmass, CO Age: 36 Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i wish i used trailer fenders, i made mine by hand using 20g scrap metal that i had laying around. I made mine because of the hack job done to the car for IC piping access, more clearance, it was easier to fit my s14 rad support, and it looks way cooler. I rivited them first because i was too impatient to wait for my welder to show up. but then i (practiced) welded and seam sealed with Dow 418 Primerless Urethane.

07-23-2011, 10:35 AM	#149
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 6,879 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	explain what you have done and why? __________________ Wayne

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