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punxva · 11-04-2009, 01:49 PM

well props to you man, looks great.

EchaKqulo · 11-06-2009, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hpipro4

yea i had to cut, de-pinned, soldered n re-pinned. took out the entire harness separated everything and labeled this and that where i cut em....time and patient my friend...

How or what kind of tool did you use to de-pin the connectors? I have tried with several glasses' screw drivers but have not been able to.

nsn240 · 11-06-2009, 06:47 AM

I didn't read through this whole thing...

But i'm redoing the wiring in my hatch... pulled all the harnesses and worked backwards from the component into the harness - then depinned or cut it out. Eliminated all the popups/ac/auto trans/fog etc etc, only wires running up front are lights/horn/fan, everything thats left fits into one factory fuse box inside. Also ran my fuel pump, fan and defi's to fuses that were freed up in that box

Pulled all the seatbelts, A/T. A/C etc from the chassis harness. Goal was to pretty much shrink the factory wiring as much as possible without doing a full rewire from scratch

Been thinking about making a thread but im lazy

edit: read everything, good info.

GSXRJJordan · 11-06-2009, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchaKqulo

How or what kind of tool did you use to de-pin the connectors? I have tried with several glasses' screw drivers but have not been able to.

Most of the time, this is what I use ~

- Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices

$2, I buy their whole stock whenever I go lol.

hpipro4 · 11-06-2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchaKqulo

How or what kind of tool did you use to de-pin the connectors? I have tried with several glasses' screw drivers but have not been able to.

same stuff i use...works for me!

EchaKqulo · 11-09-2009, 08:24 AM

Thanks so much guys i'll give it try....

Gorilla Unit 33 · 11-23-2009, 12:24 AM

Hpipro4 hope your not butt hurt over me sharing information about my tuck in your thread anymore but thought id come back and show you the final product of mine. It should be finished and running on the road in two days.

hpipro4 · 11-23-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorilla Unit 33

Hpipro4 hope your not butt hurt over me sharing information about my tuck in your thread anymore but thought id come back and show you the final product of mine. It should be finished and running on the road in two days.

haha..no im not!!!clean bay mr.

what header are you using?

*Wake* · 11-23-2009, 01:38 AM

both you sirs are redonkulous.

All I have done with harnesses so far is rip em out LOL

Gorilla Unit 33 · 11-23-2009, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hpipro4

haha..no im not!!!clean bay mr.

what header are you using?

I was able to hunt down a brand new still in the wrapping Hot Shot header, that hasnt been made for a couple (maybe 3 or 4) years now, with the Jet coating option aswell. I was totally happy about that, because im not a fan of most other header options out there for the KA no a days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WakeBHR

both you sirs are redonkulous.

All I have done with harnesses so far is rip em out LOL

LOL anything can be done with dedication and time.

One more pic so you can see both sides of the motor. Everything is plugged up!

2Fass240us · 11-23-2009, 10:38 AM

Nice tuck/clean-up!

I did one on my S13 track car, but am having to go back and re-do everything to try to get the car legal. The single biggest wiring saver is those damned pop-up lights. If you go Silvia front or another fixed light, you can save a ton. A/C is another huge one, but some people can't do without it.

+1 on the coolant reservoir mounting. I mounted mine as pictured below and never had a single problem.

Mine isn't as bling as yours though, but you can't beat a $20 part.

GSXRJJordan · 11-23-2009, 10:44 AM

You know what I really miss?

Having clean/straight OEM hardlines for brake and clutch.

I bought new ones from Ray @ WestCo Nissan and still had to bend them since my huge -6an fuel filter sits right where they 'angle down' on the pass side of the firewall. I'm debating just tucking them all inside the car now.

*Wake* · 11-24-2009, 01:50 AM

I have actually been considering remaking and running all my own hardlines after seeing how nissan routed them.

I now have a whole nother cars worth of wiring harnesses since i just stripped and junked another s13.

I cant wait until I move to a bigger facility and Im a little bit more comfortable spreading out and labeling everything.

GSXRJJordan · 11-24-2009, 10:16 AM

^^^ Yeah, I bought new hardlines last night and bent them up. Took forever, but looks pretty rad. Stock clutch line still, need to get that straightened out to match.

91es13coop · 02-05-2010, 11:22 PM

wow this is amazing. your thread really helped me out alot. ive done a mild one on an integra but our cars are alot different than ff hondas lol but great work man just started on mine tonight while reading this whole thing. thanks for the inspiration an unknowingly GREAT help

teamsprock · 02-18-2010, 04:34 PM

I just wanted to update the progress of mine. Labeled all my unused plugs while things where installed in the car. Pulled everything out and unloomed things. Then I just started at the clips and pulled the wires and fuse/relays out of the system. Wrapped it all back up and installed it up under the dash. I was able to get to where I only have one black relay box left, it's mounted behind where a stereo would go and faces out to the passenger fender well (I have no heater, so I have tons of space).

I will get pics up once I get everything finally cleaned up. I had to make sure the car ran fine before I tucked everything and finished it off. I just want to say that if I can do it with zero patience... anybody can do it.... just lable things and use your brain a little.

Fries · 03-04-2010, 06:42 PM

I'm considering doing a wire-tuck/wire elimination on the track vert. KA24DE.

Things I "need"
Ignition
Guages
Powerwindows
Taillights
Headlights
Turn signals

Anything else I'm missing?

Tearlessj · 03-10-2010, 07:03 PM

Does anyone have any idea where I can purchase pins that will work for the factory wiring clips? I plan to redo my harness using the old connectors with new pins.

Tearlessj · 03-17-2010, 11:48 PM

bump anyone?

hpipro4 · 03-18-2010, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tearlessj

Does anyone have any idea where I can purchase pins that will work for the factory wiring clips? I plan to redo my harness using the old connectors with new pins.

you can use the old connector pins...use a mini side cutter with the point...then re-crimp n solder for added safety...thats what i did when i did mine...would be nice tho if they sell pins...maybe change out the connectors? https://www.wirecare.com/deutschdt.a...&theSeries=DTM

good luck

D.Bo · 05-31-2010, 06:18 PM

wat do you use to re crimp wires....or extend the wires...butt connectors or solder? wonderin cause im about to start mine soon

PerilousActs · 05-31-2010, 07:46 PM

I solder mine. Crimping is technically better (solder is uber fragile), but you have to use good crimps, not the items available at the hardware store. For most of us not doing race harnesses, soldering is probably the best way. Strip the wire the same length on both wires, lay them across each other in an X, then spin the ends around the wire. Next, heat the copper with the soldering iron and apply the solder directly to the copper and it should pull it in. That's how in a nutshell.

hpipro4 · 06-09-2010, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.Bo

wat do you use to re crimp wires....or extend the wires...butt connectors or solder? wonderin cause im about to start mine soon

i use nothing but my good ol' weller gun n radioshack solder.

GSXRJJordan · 06-09-2010, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.Bo

wat do you use to re crimp wires....or extend the wires...butt connectors or solder? wonderin cause im about to start mine soon

Soldering (when done properly) is an electrically superior, and much more practical solution than using crimps - you have to remember that with automotive electronics, not every connection is simply carrying voltage. What I always teach is to ensure a solid mechanical connection before you apply any solder, then tin the tip of your gun/wand, apply it to the connection, and once the solder from the tip flows onto the joint apply solder to the joint itself (not the tip). The heat from the soldering tip will suck the solder through the joint, all you have to do is walk the tip up and down the joint a little bit.

I spent some considerable time tonight researching OEM Nissan connectors and their pins, and although many of the connectors are not in production anymore, I was able to find replacements for quite a few, and I believe I have replacement pins for all of them. We'll see when my shipments start rolling in next week (I had to place orders with multiple suppliers). I also got all the pins/sockets for LSx connectors, since that's a considerable part of my business nowadays.

A54 · 06-09-2010, 06:15 AM

Nice pictures...

gonshik007 · 06-09-2010, 07:58 AM

wow this looks clean makes me want to do it for my rb haha but I probably will not end up doing it!

*punn303* · 09-26-2010, 10:55 AM

any updates?

hpipro4 · 09-26-2010, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punn303

any updates?

tuck wise not really...car been running since i finish my tuck! but heres some stuff i've done...currently waiting for all my origin streamline kit to come in then some body works n paint.

rps13 garnish=jdm ego haha

stance LX+ luv em!

suspension techniques sways

PBM luv!

my clutch went out so i went with all this

finished my z33 caliper swap using stock e-brake cable

origins 20mm frts & tatakidashi 30mm rears

tatakidashi 30mm...not sure if im going to run em!

jdm visor

knock off gp 3pc wing test fit frm PDM racing

90white240 · 09-30-2010, 11:15 AM

Nice dude your car is gonna look sepsy!

hpipro4 · 09-30-2010, 10:56 PM

i guess ill make this as my build thread.....

went to pick n pull today and scored a 95' J30 vlsd. will transfer this inside my stock open diff pumpkin using stock 49t ring gear n 12t pinion.

11-06-2009, 06:47 AM	#153
nsn240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: pa Posts: 641 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I didn't read through this whole thing... But i'm redoing the wiring in my hatch... pulled all the harnesses and worked backwards from the component into the harness - then depinned or cut it out. Eliminated all the popups/ac/auto trans/fog etc etc, only wires running up front are lights/horn/fan, everything thats left fits into one factory fuse box inside. Also ran my fuel pump, fan and defi's to fuses that were freed up in that box Pulled all the seatbelts, A/T. A/C etc from the chassis harness. Goal was to pretty much shrink the factory wiring as much as possible without doing a full rewire from scratch Been thinking about making a thread but im lazy edit: read everything, good info. Last edited by nsn240; 11-06-2009 at 07:32 AM..

11-23-2009, 01:38 AM	#159
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 38 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	both you sirs are redonkulous. All I have done with harnesses so far is rip em out LOL __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

11-23-2009, 10:44 AM	#162
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	You know what I really miss? Having clean/straight OEM hardlines for brake and clutch. I bought new ones from Ray @ WestCo Nissan and still had to bend them since my huge -6an fuel filter sits right where they 'angle down' on the pass side of the firewall. I'm debating just tucking them all inside the car now. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

11-24-2009, 01:50 AM	#163
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 38 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I have actually been considering remaking and running all my own hardlines after seeing how nissan routed them. I now have a whole nother cars worth of wiring harnesses since i just stripped and junked another s13. I cant wait until I move to a bigger facility and Im a little bit more comfortable spreading out and labeling everything. __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

11-24-2009, 10:16 AM	#164
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	^^^ Yeah, I bought new hardlines last night and bent them up. Took forever, but looks pretty rad. Stock clutch line still, need to get that straightened out to match. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

11-23-2009, 12:24 AM	#157
Gorilla Unit 33 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 374 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Hpipro4 hope your not butt hurt over me sharing information about my tuck in your thread anymore but thought id come back and show you the final product of mine. It should be finished and running on the road in two days.

11-23-2009, 10:38 AM	#161
2Fass240us Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 42 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Nice tuck/clean-up! I did one on my S13 track car, but am having to go back and re-do everything to try to get the car legal. The single biggest wiring saver is those damned pop-up lights. If you go Silvia front or another fixed light, you can save a ton. A/C is another huge one, but some people can't do without it. +1 on the coolant reservoir mounting. I mounted mine as pictured below and never had a single problem. Mine isn't as bling as yours though, but you can't beat a $20 part.

02-05-2010, 11:22 PM	#165
91es13coop Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: san antonio Age: 35 Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow this is amazing. your thread really helped me out alot. ive done a mild one on an integra but our cars are alot different than ff hondas lol but great work man just started on mine tonight while reading this whole thing. thanks for the inspiration an unknowingly GREAT help

02-18-2010, 04:34 PM	#166
teamsprock Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Billings Age: 38 Posts: 636 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I just wanted to update the progress of mine. Labeled all my unused plugs while things where installed in the car. Pulled everything out and unloomed things. Then I just started at the clips and pulled the wires and fuse/relays out of the system. Wrapped it all back up and installed it up under the dash. I was able to get to where I only have one black relay box left, it's mounted behind where a stereo would go and faces out to the passenger fender well (I have no heater, so I have tons of space). I will get pics up once I get everything finally cleaned up. I had to make sure the car ran fine before I tucked everything and finished it off. I just want to say that if I can do it with zero patience... anybody can do it.... just lable things and use your brain a little.

03-04-2010, 06:42 PM	#167
Fries Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas/or/Afghanistan Age: 33 Posts: 1,511 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'm considering doing a wire-tuck/wire elimination on the track vert. KA24DE. Things I "need" Ignition Guages Powerwindows Taillights Headlights Turn signals Anything else I'm missing? __________________

03-10-2010, 07:03 PM	#168
Tearlessj Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Memphis Age: 29 Posts: 1,907 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Does anyone have any idea where I can purchase pins that will work for the factory wiring clips? I plan to redo my harness using the old connectors with new pins. __________________ Nagasaki Motors Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.

03-17-2010, 11:48 PM	#169
Tearlessj Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Memphis Age: 29 Posts: 1,907 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	bump anyone? __________________ Nagasaki Motors Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.

05-31-2010, 06:18 PM	#171
D.Bo Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Orleans Age: 32 Posts: 283 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wat do you use to re crimp wires....or extend the wires...butt connectors or solder? wonderin cause im about to start mine soon

05-31-2010, 07:46 PM	#172
PerilousActs Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Walton, Kentucky Age: 30 Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I solder mine. Crimping is technically better (solder is uber fragile), but you have to use good crimps, not the items available at the hardware store. For most of us not doing race harnesses, soldering is probably the best way. Strip the wire the same length on both wires, lay them across each other in an X, then spin the ends around the wire. Next, heat the copper with the soldering iron and apply the solder directly to the copper and it should pull it in. That's how in a nutshell.

06-09-2010, 06:15 AM	#175
A54 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 273 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	Nice pictures...

06-09-2010, 07:58 AM	#176
gonshik007 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NC charlotte Age: 31 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow this looks clean makes me want to do it for my rb haha but I probably will not end up doing it!

09-26-2010, 10:55 AM	#177
punn303 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: san diego Posts: 485 Trader Rating: (82) Feedback Score: 82 reviews	any updates? __________________ IF YOU BOUGHT FROM ME OR SOLD TO ME, LEAVE ME SOME FEEDBACK.......THANKS

09-30-2010, 11:15 AM	#179
90white240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ghettolanto!!!!! Posts: 874 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Nice dude your car is gonna look sepsy!

09-30-2010, 10:56 PM	#180
hpipro4 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: norcal 530 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (71) Feedback Score: 71 reviews	i guess ill make this as my build thread..... went to pick n pull today and scored a 95' J30 vlsd. will transfer this inside my stock open diff pumpkin using stock 49t ring gear n 12t pinion.

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