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kingston240 · 02-19-2013, 03:24 PM

Just wanted to post up what I was up to this weekend. I know car nuts love seeing some welding porn.

There are lots more pictures on facebook for those interested!
www.facebook.com/HellaFab

ch1873857 · 02-20-2013, 05:19 AM

ITB setup I've been doing for a buddy. I can reproduce these...

oh and his cage is done now too. I just did the welding on this beast. the door bars through the B pillar turned out great. the sit flush with the door skins for super sweet door banger action.

BoostinIX · 02-20-2013, 05:58 AM

Just got these done from Lee Alexander/Alexander Fabrications

godrifttoday · 02-20-2013, 04:54 PM

^
What size rod end?

BoostinIX · 02-21-2013, 06:15 AM

No idea offhand, lol sorry.

DeleriousZ · 02-21-2013, 08:58 AM

Looks like a 5/8" rod end. Head size on them is a little tiny, but if they're quality brand name they should be fine. If it was me I would have gone with a 3/4", but that's probably overkill.

BoostinIX · 02-21-2013, 09:02 AM

I'd measure but already on the car :\ I do know Lee wouldn't use sub-par parts, I'm not concerned.

godrifttoday · 02-26-2013, 02:14 AM

But if it was 5/8 I would assume there'd would be play since you have a metric bolt on the subframe

DeleriousZ · 02-26-2013, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godrifttoday

But if it was 5/8 I would assume there'd would be play since you have a metric bolt on the subframe

Most likely the spacers would be machined to accept the correctly sized bolt.

s13silvia123 · 02-27-2013, 09:44 AM

I just picked up a Miller Diversion 180, I'm just wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my arc is not straight when I weld. It goes all over the place. The tungsten is sharpen correctly, I used chem sharp to sharpen the tungsten.

Any other thoughts.

DeleriousZ · 02-27-2013, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13silvia123

I just picked up a Miller Diversion 180, I'm just wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my arc is not straight when I weld. It goes all over the place. The tungsten is sharpen correctly, I used chem sharp to sharpen the tungsten.

Any other thoughts.

Handbook - Handling the Torch

Most likely a grounding issue, current issue, or contamination issue?

Csomme · 03-01-2013, 11:52 AM

What color tungsten are you using? I have found that using Chemsharp with purple, orange, and gold leads to a funky arc. Use a grinding wheel and keep it just for tungsten.

MADMIKE · 03-01-2013, 12:27 PM

[email protected] · 03-03-2013, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ch1873857

ITB setup I've been doing for a buddy. I can reproduce these...

looks awesome!
curious, whats the advantage of this? and are u just using get ITB's modified?

kingston240 · 03-03-2013, 03:49 PM

Colors didnt come out right being that I took it at night with fluorescents... but...

As always, more pictures on my Facebook page.

ch1873857 · 03-04-2013, 02:07 AM

People typically do it solely for throttle response. Why specifically he did it dk. Didnt ask. I personally wouldn't bother with a turbo motor but im sure low end will noticeably benefit. They are slightly modded gtir throttles. The plenum was the only thing that really needed fabricated. Pretty cheap if you know the right people.

Croustibat · 03-04-2013, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

looks awesome!
curious, whats the advantage of this? and are u just using get ITB's modified?

Pros :
it looks cool
it is supposed to give a bit more engine response on NA cars

Cons:
it is bloody expensive and complex (more parts = more chances of failures)
you need to sync the butterflies every now and then - usually at the worst possible time
most of the time the caps on the sync plugs end up leaking - again, usually at the worst possible time

c72c · 03-17-2013, 09:49 PM

First time I've done this much on my own and my welds have improved quite a bit over the past few months. Still using the same flux core mig.
Making my own mustang 2 front end for my 78 courier.
Cross member, steering rack mounts and control arm mounts. All using 1/8" 2x2 square tube and 2" flat stalk.

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1363578430.659927.jpg

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1363578449.313633.jpg

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1363578464.832771.jpg

ch1873857 · 03-18-2013, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Croustibat

Pros :
it looks cool
it is supposed to give a bit more engine response on NA cars

Cons:
it is bloody expensive and complex (more parts = more chances of failures)
you need to sync the butterflies every now and then - usually at the worst possible time
most of the time the caps on the sync plugs end up leaking - again, usually at the worst possible time

your an idiot. stop posting.

here is something solid to fill your brains with rather than someones misconstrude opinion.

Benefits of Individual Throttle Bodies - CarsDirect

ITBs are used by automobile manufactures solely on high performance engine due to COST. they dont use them because it looks cool either. the fact that you said that makes me question everything you put on here. thats some ricer shit. i never thought they even looked cool.

ill let you read for yourself. its all there. one downside is that they could become a choke point for force air. However, this is a factory setup. those throttles are designed for that motor. the Rb26 is a turboed ITB motor and they make plenty of power so i think it will be just fine for the 400 bucks he has in the setup.

Nissansota240 · 03-18-2013, 08:20 AM

Quick question for you fabrication/metal guys. What thickness metal are you using for extending your lower control arms?

Croustibat · 03-18-2013, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ch1873857

insults insults blah blah blah

Look, i think i have been pretty clear last time; you got a serious mental issue, so go get it fixed. I dont care about you, your life or anything; as strange as it may occur to you, my mind denies your association to the human race whatsoever. You are just an "internet thing" that frankly i could not care less, except your sole presence pollutes every thread you post in by your overall ignorance, harshness and language.

Dont you think there is a reason i ignored your PMs after you posted maybe 10 posts insulting me ? I really hope some mods will pink you for good this time.

TL;DR :

Copy of one of these PMs so ppl can see what you are made off, i did not read them until now, but i guess the other one is the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ch1873857

I am going to be as polite as possible. I was very civil in my response to the MAF thread. It seems like a great opportunity for something I could greatly benefit from. You know that though and your attempt to deface me to a potential client/sponsor/partner was quite immature and uncalled for. We have already seen how retarded you can be after attempting to get me banned 4 times for calling you an idiot. You come back to call me a clown? How much more hypocritical can you be? You calling me a clown doesn't bother me. What you said about me doesn't bother me. The fact that you can't let stupid simple shit go and keep going at it like a preteen girl on her first period? Thats annoying. At least if you gonna do this, put up a good fight? Be an adult about it. We dont go cry in a corner around here. Bottom line.. Be an adult or politely fuck off somewhere. If not, you'll find me quite annoying because I will continue to shit talk every thread I see you in. Trust me. You dont get banned for shit talking around here. The mods talk more shit than anyone. This isnt a happy environment filled with lollipops and double rainbows. This place really isnt the place you pal.

Seriously ?

Now as far as ITBs setup go, i have had enough bikes and worked on enough bike engine powered hill climbers to know their downsides, thank you.

Finally, this is zilvia, nor NRR; someone asking for ITBs here is just interested in the bling effect.

ch1873857 · 03-18-2013, 09:46 AM

Pink me for good? Was never pinked. And my overall ignorance produce the only tangible answer for the guys question. My feelings aren't hurt for you posting my pm. I had the same thing typed on that thread but i refuse to ruin a good thread which you are attempting to do. If you have something to say pm. All your doing is making yourself look like a fool.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

DeleriousZ · 03-18-2013, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ch1873857

your an idiot. stop posting.

If you're going to go through the trouble of insulting someone, at least try and use the right 'you're'.

ch1873857 · 03-18-2013, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeleriousZ

If you're going to go through the trouble of insulting someone, at least try and use the right 'you're'.

Yeah, autocorrect can be a real pain sometimes.

Sleepy_Steve · 03-19-2013, 07:17 AM

Guys, its the internet. It's very important we get back on topic.

Exhaust I made

Hood vent

Switch Panel

What takes up all the time when making a switch panel.

Brake heat shield

Holly fuck, do these not get auto re-sized? My bad.

IIIXziuR · 03-19-2013, 09:48 PM

That is a pretty cool BMC heat shield you made up.
Just some aluminum sheet bend by hand or with a brake?

Sleepy_Steve · 03-20-2013, 07:47 AM

Yeah, I had some aluminum left over from the hood vent, really thin stuff. Bent by hand with a block of wood on the edge of a table as a 'brake' since I don't have a real one. I had to hammer most of the edges to be sharper and closer to a true 90 since a hand bend can only get you so close.

I keep forgetting lessons I learn from previous sheet metal projects like drilling holes where bends meet to prevent stress risers, and I never really measured that heat shield very closely, so it got seriously un-square when I bolted it on. But good enough for my needs, it should still do its job just as well.

EvoVIII808 · 03-20-2013, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nissansota240

Quick question for you fabrication/metal guys. What thickness metal are you using for extending your lower control arms?

I would like to know this also.. i dont think i have seen this posted anywhere.

tauntdevil · 03-21-2013, 07:06 AM

I normally have another set of bad LCA's that I cut a piece out of to weld into another LCA and then just weld on thicker stuff to add strength. Thats normally because I have a bunch though that we wont use.
When I get home, I will see how thick the metal my friend uses for his arms, he just gets the precut plates at industrial metals and uses those for whatever he needs so.. Ill post here again tonight.

ch1873857 · 03-22-2013, 04:08 AM

for something like that i would you use something beefy like 3/16ths

02-19-2013, 03:24 PM	#5191
kingston240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kingston Age: 33 Posts: 252 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kingston240 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just wanted to post up what I was up to this weekend. I know car nuts love seeing some welding porn. There are lots more pictures on facebook for those interested! www.facebook.com/HellaFab __________________ www.facebook.com/HellaFab

02-20-2013, 04:54 PM	#5194
godrifttoday Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 37 Posts: 3,120 Trader Rating: (82) Feedback Score: 82 reviews	^ What size rod end? __________________ NEED Bolt kits for your car?

02-21-2013, 08:58 AM	#5196
DeleriousZ Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Age: 35 Posts: 428 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Looks like a 5/8" rod end. Head size on them is a little tiny, but if they're quality brand name they should be fine. If it was me I would have gone with a 3/4", but that's probably overkill. __________________ z31 Lovin' http://imageshack.us/a/img337/2396/lowerit.jpg

02-26-2013, 02:14 AM	#5198
godrifttoday Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 37 Posts: 3,120 Trader Rating: (82) Feedback Score: 82 reviews	But if it was 5/8 I would assume there'd would be play since you have a metric bolt on the subframe __________________ NEED Bolt kits for your car?

02-27-2013, 09:44 AM	#5200
s13silvia123 Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: where waldo is Age: 39 Posts: 3,256 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I just picked up a Miller Diversion 180, I'm just wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my arc is not straight when I weld. It goes all over the place. The tungsten is sharpen correctly, I used chem sharp to sharpen the tungsten. Any other thoughts. __________________ 18g and 20g turbo users click on me http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/261219-18g-20g-turbo-users.html

02-20-2013, 05:19 AM	#5192
ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ITB setup I've been doing for a buddy. I can reproduce these... oh and his cage is done now too. I just did the welding on this beast. the door bars through the B pillar turned out great. the sit flush with the door skins for super sweet door banger action.

02-20-2013, 05:58 AM	#5193
BoostinIX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Laurel, MD Age: 36 Posts: 815 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Just got these done from Lee Alexander/Alexander Fabrications

02-21-2013, 06:15 AM	#5195
BoostinIX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Laurel, MD Age: 36 Posts: 815 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	No idea offhand, lol sorry.

02-21-2013, 09:02 AM	#5197
BoostinIX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Laurel, MD Age: 36 Posts: 815 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	I'd measure but already on the car :\ I do know Lee wouldn't use sub-par parts, I'm not concerned.

03-01-2013, 11:52 AM	#5202
Csomme Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: north carolinazzz Age: 30 Posts: 1,009 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	What color tungsten are you using? I have found that using Chemsharp with purple, orange, and gold leads to a funky arc. Use a grinding wheel and keep it just for tungsten.

03-01-2013, 12:27 PM	#5203
MADMIKE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mass Age: 37 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews

03-03-2013, 03:49 PM	#5205
kingston240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kingston Age: 33 Posts: 252 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kingston240 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Colors didnt come out right being that I took it at night with fluorescents... but... As always, more pictures on my Facebook page. __________________ www.facebook.com/HellaFab

03-04-2013, 02:07 AM	#5206
ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	People typically do it solely for throttle response. Why specifically he did it dk. Didnt ask. I personally wouldn't bother with a turbo motor but im sure low end will noticeably benefit. They are slightly modded gtir throttles. The plenum was the only thing that really needed fabricated. Pretty cheap if you know the right people.

03-17-2013, 09:49 PM	#5208
c72c Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (25) Feedback Score: 25 reviews	First time I've done this much on my own and my welds have improved quite a bit over the past few months. Still using the same flux core mig. Making my own mustang 2 front end for my 78 courier. Cross member, steering rack mounts and control arm mounts. All using 1/8" 2x2 square tube and 2" flat stalk. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1363578430.659927.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1363578449.313633.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1363578464.832771.jpg __________________ Last edited by c72c; 03-17-2013 at 10:26 PM..

03-18-2013, 08:20 AM	#5210
Nissansota240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Land of Purple Rain Posts: 1,255 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Quick question for you fabrication/metal guys. What thickness metal are you using for extending your lower control arms? __________________ DLG - DIRTYLOVE

03-18-2013, 09:46 AM	#5212
ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Pink me for good? Was never pinked. And my overall ignorance produce the only tangible answer for the guys question. My feelings aren't hurt for you posting my pm. I had the same thing typed on that thread but i refuse to ruin a good thread which you are attempting to do. If you have something to say pm. All your doing is making yourself look like a fool. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

03-19-2013, 07:17 AM	#5215
Sleepy_Steve Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 276 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Guys, its the internet. It's very important we get back on topic. Exhaust I made Hood vent Switch Panel What takes up all the time when making a switch panel. Brake heat shield Holly fuck, do these not get auto re-sized? My bad. __________________ '95 240 \| @SleepySteve72

03-19-2013, 09:48 PM	#5216
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,652 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	That is a pretty cool BMC heat shield you made up. Just some aluminum sheet bend by hand or with a brake? __________________ ... ... ... ... .

03-20-2013, 07:47 AM	#5217
Sleepy_Steve Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 276 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Yeah, I had some aluminum left over from the hood vent, really thin stuff. Bent by hand with a block of wood on the edge of a table as a 'brake' since I don't have a real one. I had to hammer most of the edges to be sharper and closer to a true 90 since a hand bend can only get you so close. I keep forgetting lessons I learn from previous sheet metal projects like drilling holes where bends meet to prevent stress risers, and I never really measured that heat shield very closely, so it got seriously un-square when I bolted it on. But good enough for my needs, it should still do its job just as well. __________________ '95 240 \| @SleepySteve72

03-21-2013, 07:06 AM	#5219
tauntdevil Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Arizona/LA, California Posts: 476 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I normally have another set of bad LCA's that I cut a piece out of to weld into another LCA and then just weld on thicker stuff to add strength. Thats normally because I have a bunch though that we wont use. When I get home, I will see how thick the metal my friend uses for his arms, he just gets the precut plates at industrial metals and uses those for whatever he needs so.. Ill post here again tonight. __________________ S14 KA NA two cylinders, 75whp limper

03-22-2013, 04:08 AM	#5220
ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	for something like that i would you use something beefy like 3/16ths

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