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smokin-kp61 · 04-05-2013, 10:04 AM

I have a chance to get a 4.3L vortex engine ecu and wire harness for free i would most likely bolt a t56 trans to it and keep it na has anyone done this swap does oilpan hit xmember and will the shifter be to far forward or am I gunna have to just go for it and figure it out

The Dude · 04-05-2013, 02:36 PM

I think you'll just have to go for it. I'm not sure it would be ultimately more cost effective than doing an sr20 swap, though.

smokin-kp61 · 04-05-2013, 06:13 PM

your right but if i could get a trans cheap enough might be worth it i have a 4 speed i could mount to it just need bellhousing and clutch

The Dude · 04-05-2013, 06:50 PM

You will probably still need a new/modified oil pan or crossmember (check with moroso to see if they have any front sump pans), motor/trans mounts, driveshaft, and headers.
I don't know all the specs on that motor but I'm betting it's an iron block (heavy). It would be hard for me to go that route even if I did get most of the stuff for free.

vas13hatch · 04-06-2013, 12:34 PM

That motor is basically a 350 with two cylinders chopped off. There are a few performance parts for it out there but nothing like an LSx. I think you should sell it and put the money towards something more conventional, but it would definitely be different if you did that swap.

Got Insulin? · 04-06-2013, 03:51 PM

Should also be noted that (at least locally), the T56 is between $800-2000, so cheap it may not be...

smokin-kp61 · 04-06-2013, 05:40 PM

I don't have to use t56 could use a t5 which is a lot cheaper and there is tons of performance parts including turbo kits

Croustibat · 04-07-2013, 03:24 AM

Man you wont pay more if you use punctuation, so respect your readers and use it.

Justin95 · 04-11-2013, 03:20 AM

4.3 maybe puts out 190hp def not worth the hassle in my opinion

smokin-kp61 · 04-11-2013, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin95

4.3 maybe puts out 190hp def not worth the hassle in my opinion

I either have LU3 block which is 200hp 250lb-ft, or the
LG3 block 215hp 265lb-ft.
The only problem i see is its a rear sump engine which is a problem everything else i can fab and make work. So if i can figure that out id figure around $2k id have a very unique engine swap

PoorMans180SX · 04-11-2013, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokin-kp61

I either have LU3 block which is 200hp 250lb-ft, or the
LG3 block 215hp 265lb-ft.
The only problem i see is its a rear sump engine which is a problem everything else i can fab and make work. So if i can figure that out id figure around $2k id have a very unique engine swap

For what it's costing you in time and fabrication material, I'm betting you could dang near have a VQ35, which makes more power, sounds FAR better, is probably lighter, and not to mention easier to swap.

Why are you trying this again? Oh yeah, to be "unique"

The Dude · 04-11-2013, 06:37 PM

The LS1 is a rear sump motor as well. You may be able to modify one of the front sump pans designed for the LS1, but you'll also have to modify the oil pickup tube.

Alamo_City_210 · 04-12-2013, 01:13 PM

He did not ask for opinions if he should do it or not but for insight if someone has done it before. I think, if you got the money and skills, why not. No need to impress anyone for any reason. If you do it, you'd be the helping hand for others who may want to do it.

smokin-kp61 · 04-12-2013, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alamo_City_210

He did not ask for opinions if he should do it or not but for insight if someone has done it before. I think, if you got the money and skills, why not. No need to impress anyone for any reason. If you do it, you'd be the helping hand for others who may want to do it.

Wow thank you, someone that doesnt hate cuz im not jumping on the ls bandwagon

PoorMans180SX · 04-12-2013, 01:29 PM

I'm trying to help save the guy from a headache and a poor performing engine, but hey, do as you wish, it's not like I'm going to go to his house and stop him.

This is a forum, you can expect people's opinions and take them with a grain of salt.

The Dude · 04-12-2013, 02:17 PM

No one here even mentioned that you should be doing an LS swap instead...?

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04-05-2013, 02:36 PM	#2
The Dude Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: TN Age: 36 Posts: 357 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I think you'll just have to go for it. I'm not sure it would be ultimately more cost effective than doing an sr20 swap, though.

04-05-2013, 06:13 PM	#3
smokin-kp61 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: nj Age: 33 Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	your right but if i could get a trans cheap enough might be worth it i have a 4 speed i could mount to it just need bellhousing and clutch

04-05-2013, 06:50 PM	#4
The Dude Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: TN Age: 36 Posts: 357 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	You will probably still need a new/modified oil pan or crossmember (check with moroso to see if they have any front sump pans), motor/trans mounts, driveshaft, and headers. I don't know all the specs on that motor but I'm betting it's an iron block (heavy). It would be hard for me to go that route even if I did get most of the stuff for free.

04-06-2013, 12:34 PM	#5
vas13hatch Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: BFE VA Age: 30 Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That motor is basically a 350 with two cylinders chopped off. There are a few performance parts for it out there but nothing like an LSx. I think you should sell it and put the money towards something more conventional, but it would definitely be different if you did that swap.

04-06-2013, 03:51 PM	#6
Got Insulin? Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Philthadelphia Age: 33 Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Should also be noted that (at least locally), the T56 is between $800-2000, so cheap it may not be...

04-06-2013, 05:40 PM	#7
smokin-kp61 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: nj Age: 33 Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't have to use t56 could use a t5 which is a lot cheaper and there is tons of performance parts including turbo kits

04-07-2013, 03:24 AM	#8
Croustibat Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: France - Toulouse Age: 41 Posts: 1,851 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man you wont pay more if you use punctuation, so respect your readers and use it.

04-11-2013, 03:20 AM	#9
Justin95 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: ohio Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	4.3 maybe puts out 190hp def not worth the hassle in my opinion

04-11-2013, 06:37 PM	#12
The Dude Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: TN Age: 36 Posts: 357 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	The LS1 is a rear sump motor as well. You may be able to modify one of the front sump pans designed for the LS1, but you'll also have to modify the oil pickup tube.

04-12-2013, 01:13 PM	#13
Alamo_City_210 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: san antonio tx Posts: 190 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	He did not ask for opinions if he should do it or not but for insight if someone has done it before. I think, if you got the money and skills, why not. No need to impress anyone for any reason. If you do it, you'd be the helping hand for others who may want to do it.

04-12-2013, 02:17 PM	#16
The Dude Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: TN Age: 36 Posts: 357 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	No one here even mentioned that you should be doing an LS swap instead...?