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90victorhugo · 09-02-2015, 04:27 PM

Hey everyone so i adjusted my clutch yesterday and now the clutch is loose i know for a fact made the adjustment correctly.. The car goes into gear fine once i press the pedal in but if i am at a stop amd just kick it in it get loose if i keep pressing it it it will go all the way down.. Then it will get stiff again.
I have no leaks and the fluid is at the max level. Any help is appreciated

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jr_ss · 09-02-2015, 06:48 PM

Check your fluid color. If it's dark, it needs to be flushed and rebled. If it changes color in a rather short time, you have a bad slave and/or master. Replace with OE units.

90victorhugo · 09-02-2015, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jr_ss

Check your fluid color. If it's dark, it needs to be flushed and rebled. If it changes color in a rather short time, you have a bad slave and/or master. Replace with OE units.

Thank u for replying but yes the fluid is super black il do that tonightband report back

It has a notchtop in it if i do need to replace slave/master is it the same as ka24?

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zombiewolf513 · 09-02-2015, 11:55 PM

Did you bleed the system?

90victorhugo · 09-03-2015, 12:58 AM

Ok heres an update.. So i flushed out the system and bled it the fluid is now really clear and i knownit doesnt have air in the system.. It still has the same symptons though

I started messing with the slave cylinder and i could with my hand push it in.. I even bled it like that.. Is this normal?? If not i think i found my solution.

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GreinTime · 09-03-2015, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 90victorhugo

Ok heres an update.. So i flushed out the system and bled it the fluid is now really clear and i knownit doesnt have air in the system.. It still has the same symptons though

I started messing with the slave cylinder and i could with my hand push it in.. I even bled it like that.. Is this normal?? If not i think i found my solution.

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I'm not sure how you could bleed it like that, as the fluid would be going the wrong way.

Here's a question for you though, do you still have the OEM clutch damper in it?

90victorhugo · 09-03-2015, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GreinTime

I'm not sure how you could bleed it like that, as the fluid would be going the wrong way.

Here's a question for you though, do you still have the OEM clutch damper in it?

I was able to push it in with minor pressure with the other hand i would open the bleeder screw and fluid would come out.

And i believe so yes

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zombiewolf513 · 09-03-2015, 07:52 AM

I still think bleeding it properly is the source of your problem

90victorhugo · 09-03-2015, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

I still think bleeding it properly is the source of your problem

I really dont think so i bled it really good and many times
The clutch still is hard but when i play with the pedal it gets softer and softer
I have to push the pedal fast to get some pressure if i do it slowly it sinks to the bottom

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zombiewolf513 · 09-03-2015, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 90victorhugo

I was able to push it in with minor pressure with the other hand i would open the bleeder screw and fluid would come out.

If this is the only way you've done it, you didn't do it right.

90victorhugo · 09-03-2015, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

If this is the only way you've done it, you didn't do it right.

No i did it with the pedal to start with and when i was done it still had the same affects
The clutch was fine it was then ome day i adjusted the pedal with the rod and it started acting up

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zombiewolf513 · 09-03-2015, 09:34 AM

You might have a leaking slave cylinder.

Kingtal0n · 09-03-2015, 01:48 PM

The pedal needs a little free play at the top, maybe 1/2" max (or less). adjust your clutch pedal so that there is this tiny bit of free play at the top.

90victorhugo · 09-03-2015, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingtal0n

The pedal needs a little free play at the top, maybe 1/2" max (or less). adjust your clutch pedal so that there is this tiny bit of free play at the top.

I did adjust it but what its doing is if I light press it, it looses pressure and it sinks, I'm going to remove the dampener it still has it I just checked it out and read some things about it ill update asap

jr_ss · 09-03-2015, 09:51 PM

Bypass/remove clutch damper and repeat bleeding process. I have a feeling your Master is shot though.

90victorhugo · 09-03-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jr_ss

Bypass/remove clutch damper and repeat bleeding process. I have a feeling your Master is shot though.

Even if there is no leak?? Im removing damper tonight il update..

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90victorhugo · 09-04-2015, 01:29 AM

Update : so i removed the damper and its still the same thing.. I did notice the slave cylinder would go in slow just by me appying some pressure just like the pedal and when i tried to push in with alot of pressure it was hard..
Do you guys think its the s/c ?

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jr_ss · 09-04-2015, 04:06 AM

Yes, they can fail even if they don't leak. You can push fluid out of the slave back into the master as there is no check valve in the system. Replace your Master, hell if they are both as old as the car, replace both.

90victorhugo · 09-04-2015, 10:00 PM

UPDATE: after removing damper. Installed new slave and master/c took like 15 min, bled it and bam. Back to normal. Thanks fellas!

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Kingtal0n · 09-04-2015, 10:13 PM

yep, gota love these cars. Nearly Anything can be fixed in one single day, even a completely blown drivetrain can be replaced quickly.

And for the little stuff like this, there is a well designed sequence and most of the bolts seem very accessible.

240s are great learning cars.

zombiewolf513 · 09-04-2015, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingtal0n

240s are great learning cars.

+1

Thats all

09-02-2015, 04:27 PM	#1
90victorhugo Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Phx az Age: 30 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Help with clutch.... Hey everyone so i adjusted my clutch yesterday and now the clutch is loose i know for a fact made the adjustment correctly.. The car goes into gear fine once i press the pedal in but if i am at a stop amd just kick it in it get loose if i keep pressing it it it will go all the way down.. Then it will get stiff again. I have no leaks and the fluid is at the max level. Any help is appreciated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-02-2015, 06:48 PM	#2
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,056 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Check your fluid color. If it's dark, it needs to be flushed and rebled. If it changes color in a rather short time, you have a bad slave and/or master. Replace with OE units. __________________ My SR20VET

09-03-2015, 09:51 PM	#15
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,056 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Bypass/remove clutch damper and repeat bleeding process. I have a feeling your Master is shot though. __________________ My SR20VET

09-04-2015, 04:06 AM	#18
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,056 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Yes, they can fail even if they don't leak. You can push fluid out of the slave back into the master as there is no check valve in the system. Replace your Master, hell if they are both as old as the car, replace both. __________________ My SR20VET

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09-02-2015, 11:55 PM	#4
zombiewolf513 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: AZ Age: 33 Posts: 1,682 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: zombiewolf513 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Did you bleed the system?

09-03-2015, 12:58 AM	#5
90victorhugo Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Phx az Age: 30 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok heres an update.. So i flushed out the system and bled it the fluid is now really clear and i knownit doesnt have air in the system.. It still has the same symptons though I started messing with the slave cylinder and i could with my hand push it in.. I even bled it like that.. Is this normal?? If not i think i found my solution. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-03-2015, 07:52 AM	#8
zombiewolf513 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: AZ Age: 33 Posts: 1,682 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: zombiewolf513 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I still think bleeding it properly is the source of your problem

09-03-2015, 09:34 AM	#12
zombiewolf513 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: AZ Age: 33 Posts: 1,682 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: zombiewolf513 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	You might have a leaking slave cylinder.

09-03-2015, 01:48 PM	#13
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 38 Posts: 4,649 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	The pedal needs a little free play at the top, maybe 1/2" max (or less). adjust your clutch pedal so that there is this tiny bit of free play at the top.

09-04-2015, 01:29 AM	#17
90victorhugo Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Phx az Age: 30 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Update : so i removed the damper and its still the same thing.. I did notice the slave cylinder would go in slow just by me appying some pressure just like the pedal and when i tried to push in with alot of pressure it was hard.. Do you guys think its the s/c ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-04-2015, 10:00 PM	#19
90victorhugo Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Phx az Age: 30 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	UPDATE: after removing damper. Installed new slave and master/c took like 15 min, bled it and bam. Back to normal. Thanks fellas! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-04-2015, 10:13 PM	#20
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 38 Posts: 4,649 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	yep, gota love these cars. Nearly Anything can be fixed in one single day, even a completely blown drivetrain can be replaced quickly. And for the little stuff like this, there is a well designed sequence and most of the bolts seem very accessible. 240s are great learning cars.