mojos13

I bought my 1Jz from venus with a R154 told the guy i needed a front sump oil pan and he indluded it as an extra pan at no charge, cost me $1500 plus shipping...i'm happy!

slideways2004

you bought just the mounts?? he told me he wouldn't separate. damnit

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Viggs

Tim...you will need the Upper and lower pans(the upper is the big aluminum one and the lower is the black steel one) also the baffle and pickup. Mojo you paid 1500+shipping!?!?!?With the front sump! I paid 2300 from JDMsource in calgary for a rear sump and 175 for the front sump setup from a guy on supra forums. You practically stole that motorset! Slideways....yea, I got just the mounts. I offered him 300 for them and he said no and said he was selling them to someone else for 400. About a month later he asked me if I still wanted them and I snatched em up.

timlush

Those mounts look awesome and also look rather simple to duplicate.

Viggs-is your engine in the car currently?

Viggs

Currently no. I'm waiting for a break from the below freezing temperatures here.

300hp owen

what reasons are you guys using to want to go 2jz instead of RB20/25 motors?

just asking.
looks like an easy enough install and not much hacking but I would be pissed to have a 2jz and not be able to fit the 6speed in the tunnel, that tranny is half the fun of the 2jz (for me), just like the LS1T56 swaps as an entire package, I would never want one with a 5 speed or an auto, yuck, and weak.

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foelg

just put an ls1 in there and be done with it

timlush

You should send me some detailed measurements on those mounts

Viggs

Owen, I see your in western NY. Maybe you should stop by after the salt washes off the road and see for yourself. I have no clue why I went 1j. The idea was planted in my head by my college roomate and I never let it go.

Acidz

can fit the 6speed but the tranny alone is about $2000+

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GSXRJJordan

The 1JZ motor is incredibly fun in a light car - very responsive and rev happy, much like a RB25. Rb's are expensive, 1JZ front clips in great shape can be had for $2500 any day of the week out here. Then it's just mounts and a driveshaft. Very similar to an RB swap, but with a downpipe/front mount/boost controller, the stock twins (even with their gay ass ceramic/iconel turbine wheels) at 14psi can make 400whp on a 1JZ. That kind of bang for the buck can't be found this side of an SR swap - so if you want to be different, 1JZ is not a bad way to go.

2JZ is more torque, plus it's possible to be legal. MUCH more money though for a 2JZ-GTE, so lots of guys go NA-T for a ~500hp setup without too much drama. One local guy here might buy my spare 2JZ-GE w/it's w58 and stay NA/smog legal for ~270hp in his S13 vert, with a total investment of less than $2k... stay tuned.

Oh, and measurement for those mounts CFinch made at some Palmdale shop (don't think it was Garagewerks) would be highly appreciated.

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timlush

If I got everything from an Aristo (auto tranny) would I have to get a manual ECU and harness or just ECU?

timlush

So, if I went 1jz, it would come with the correct tranny to fit in an S14, right? Would it still need a shifter extension?

RUTH'LESSDET

Cant wait to see that swap thread viggs

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Check out CFinch's build thread - there's at least a couple others on here. I believe only slight shifter mods are req'd (cut a couple inches out of the tunnel/hole).

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300hp owen

interesting, the 1jz sounds like a winner for that low of a cost, very cool.

Viggs, yes indeed I would be down to meet up and see it in person, I'll cruise out in the LS1rx7 so we can have some fun.

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kernel

Sean from tech2 said we can run the automatic ECU/WIRING with a R154 transmission without any problem. You need to wire the Neutral park switch if you wanna use it and if you still want to have your back-up light, you need to wire up them also.

5-speed ECU are from 1JZ-GTE so I don't think it would work on 2JZ-GTE wiring and 6-speed ECU are kinda rare and expensive. If you get the 6speed ECU, you should get the manuel wiring also but you'll still need to wire up some plug for neutral park switch/back-up light. I don't know if they share the same plugs/lower wiring

Anyway, I'm using a R154 with Aristo 2JZ-GTE Automatic wiring/ecu for my swap

cws14

There are lots of price differences with the 2JZ-GTE motors. The cheap GTE motors are the Aristo GTE motors. They have smaller ceramic turbos, cams, injectors, water pumps, oil pans and a few other small details. They are still sequential turbos but are slightly different (usually smaller everything).

There is also the JDM Supra GTE motor which still has the different parts listed above. The most expensive will be the US spec Supra which has more powerful steel turbos and all the different parts listed above.

The 6spd transmission alone goes for $3500 used (if you can find one) and just under $5,000 new. I opted to buy a new one because I couldnt find one. The flud alone is $90 for two quarts! But they can handle 1500whp all day long.

If you have any other Supra questions feel free to ask. I have on if you didnt notice already.

Chris

turtle m3th

I am thinking about going the na-t route myself for smog purposes. Here is a decent link i found with a na-t 240 build up. http://www.2jzswap.com/modules.php?n...er=asc&start=0

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turtle m3th

Curious as to whether anyone know the weight of a 2jzge motor or not?

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Viggs

I searched this for you on supraforums...with accessories(No trans)...about 595 pounds. Give or take a few.

slideways2004

isn't that pretty heavy?? what does the KA weigh in at??

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Viggs

KA weight is 371 pounds....http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothrea...postid=3314980 I guess you could take the weight of the KA and multiply it by 1.5 and that would get you close to what a Inline 6 of the same materials would weigh. That would be...557. So 595 doesn't sound too outrageous.

ByeByeSti

ive wanted to do a 2jz swap for so long on a s14. i finally bought my s14 back in december and now getting ready to put a motor in it just cant decide which, id much rather go with a 2jz but last time i looked around for a clip off a supra it was like 4500 which steered me away from it badly. i dont want to build sr, or put a rb25 in cuz there a bitch to get parts for compared to a ka or sr or 2jz. but ya anyways what would the cost for a clip+ 1 piece drive shaft+ what ever else is needed besides fmic and exhaust. and i could have motor mounts made but on a scale of 1-10 how difficult is this swap compared to others. and what would a reputable dealer be for clips?